
Sucking CO2 and Electrifying Everything: The Climate Movement's Desperate Dependence on Tenuous Technologies
05/10/23 • 82 min
Meet Mark Jacobson and David Keith, the leading techno-fixologists who overpromise overhyped “solutions” to the climate conundrum. Please share this episode with your friends and start a conversation.
Warning: This podcast occasionally uses spicy language.
For an entertaining deep dive into the theme of season five (Phalse Prophets), read the definitive peer-reviewed taxonomic analysis from our very own Jason Bradford, PhD.
Sources/Links/Notes:
- The Solutions Project
- Carbon Engineering
- David W. Keith et al., "A Process for Capturing CO2 from the Atmosphere," Joule, August 15, 2018.
- Christopher T. M. Clack et al., "Evaluation of a proposal for reliable low-cost grid power with 100% wind, water, and solar," PNAS, June 19, 2017.
- Natanael Bolson, P. Prieto, and T. Patzek, "Capacity factors for electrical power generation from renewable and nonrenewable sources," PNAS, December 20, 2022.
- Simon Michaux's website
- Richard Heinberg, "Can Civilization Survive? These Studies Might Tell Us," Resilience, December 19, 2022.
- Average household electricity consumption
- David Fridley and Richard Heinberg, "Can Climate Change Be Stopped by Turning Air Into Gasoline?," Renewable Energy World, June 19, 2018.
- Mark Jacobson on Late Night with David Letterman
- James R. Martin, "Energy Transition & the Luxury Economy," Resilience, October 31, 2022.
- Yamina Saheb, Kai Kuhnhenn, and Juliane Schumacher, "It’s a Very Western Vision of the World," Rosa-Luxemburg-Stiftung.
- Mark Z. Jacobson et al., "Low-cost solutions to global warming, air pollution, and energy insecurity for 145 countries," Energy & Environmental Science (2022).
- Nicole Jewell, "Leading Stanford climate scientist builds incredible net zero home, complete with Tesla Powerwall," In Habitat (2017).
- Raymond Pierrehumbert, "The trouble with geoengineers 'hacking the planet'," Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (2017).
Meet Mark Jacobson and David Keith, the leading techno-fixologists who overpromise overhyped “solutions” to the climate conundrum. Please share this episode with your friends and start a conversation.
Warning: This podcast occasionally uses spicy language.
For an entertaining deep dive into the theme of season five (Phalse Prophets), read the definitive peer-reviewed taxonomic analysis from our very own Jason Bradford, PhD.
Sources/Links/Notes:
- The Solutions Project
- Carbon Engineering
- David W. Keith et al., "A Process for Capturing CO2 from the Atmosphere," Joule, August 15, 2018.
- Christopher T. M. Clack et al., "Evaluation of a proposal for reliable low-cost grid power with 100% wind, water, and solar," PNAS, June 19, 2017.
- Natanael Bolson, P. Prieto, and T. Patzek, "Capacity factors for electrical power generation from renewable and nonrenewable sources," PNAS, December 20, 2022.
- Simon Michaux's website
- Richard Heinberg, "Can Civilization Survive? These Studies Might Tell Us," Resilience, December 19, 2022.
- Average household electricity consumption
- David Fridley and Richard Heinberg, "Can Climate Change Be Stopped by Turning Air Into Gasoline?," Renewable Energy World, June 19, 2018.
- Mark Jacobson on Late Night with David Letterman
- James R. Martin, "Energy Transition & the Luxury Economy," Resilience, October 31, 2022.
- Yamina Saheb, Kai Kuhnhenn, and Juliane Schumacher, "It’s a Very Western Vision of the World," Rosa-Luxemburg-Stiftung.
- Mark Z. Jacobson et al., "Low-cost solutions to global warming, air pollution, and energy insecurity for 145 countries," Energy & Environmental Science (2022).
- Nicole Jewell, "Leading Stanford climate scientist builds incredible net zero home, complete with Tesla Powerwall," In Habitat (2017).
- Raymond Pierrehumbert, "The trouble with geoengineers 'hacking the planet'," Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (2017).
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How Ecomodernists Hijacked the Environmental Movement: Technotopian Bullshit and a Raging Case of God Complex.
Meet Stewart Brand and his band of merry dematerialists, the Silicon Valley salesmen who undermined environmentalism with planet-saving fantasies that reek of technofetishism. Please share this episode with your friends and start a conversation.
Warning: This podcast occasionally uses spicy language.
For an entertaining deep dive into the theme of season five (Phalse Prophets), read the definitive peer-reviewed taxonomic analysis from our very own Jason Bradford, PhD.
Sources/Links/Notes:
- John Markoff, Whole Earth: The Many Lives of Stewart Brand, 2022.
- Anna Wiener, "The Complicated Legacy of Stewart Brand’s 'Whole Earth Catalog'," The New Yorker, November 16, 2018.
- Wolf Tivy and Matt Ellison, "'Life Goes On' With Stewart Brand," Palladium, September 14, 2022.
- "Ecomodernist Manifesto"
- Timothee Parrique, "A response to Paul Krugman: Growth is not as green as you might think," Resilience, February 28, 2023.
- Low-Tech Magazine
- The Long Now Foundation
- Revive & Restore
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Meet William MacAskill, the puerile professor who helps crypto capitalists justify sociopathy today for a universe of transhuman colonization tomorrow. Please share this episode with your friends and start a conversation.
Warning: This podcast occasionally uses spicy language.
For an entertaining deep dive into the theme of season five (Phalse Prophets), read the definitive peer-reviewed taxonomic analysis from our very own Jason Bradford, PhD.
Sources/Links/Notes:
- Andrew Anthony, "William MacAskill: 'There are 80 trillion people yet to come. They need us to start protecting them'," The Guardian, August 21, 2022.
- Guiding Principles of the Centre for Effective Altruism
- Peter Singer, "Famine, Affluence and Morality," givingwhatwecan.org.
- Sarah Pessin, "Political Spiral Logics," sarahpessin.com.
- Eliezer Yudkowsky, "Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut it All Down," Time, March 29, 2023.
- Emile Torres explains the acronym TESCREAL in a Twitter thread.
- Benjamin Todd and William MacAskill, "Is it ever OK to take a harmful job in order to do more good? An in-depth analysis," 80,000 Hours, March 26, 2023.
- William MacAskill, "The Case for Longtermism," The New York Times, August 5, 2022.
- Emile P. Torres, "Understanding “longertermism”: Why this suddenly influential philosophy is so toxic," Salon, August 20, 2022.
- Nick Bostrom, "Existential Risks," Journal of Evolution and Technology (2002).
- Nick Bostrom, "Astronomical Waste: The Opportunity Cost of Delayed Technological Development," Utilitas (2003).
- Emile P. Torres, "How Elon Musk sees the future: His bizarre sci-fi visions should concern us all," Salon, July 17, 2022.
Crazy Town - Sucking CO2 and Electrifying Everything: The Climate Movement's Desperate Dependence on Tenuous Technologies
Transcript
Rob Dietz
Hi, I'm Rob Dietz.
Asher Miller
I'm Asher Miller.
Jason Bradford
And I'm Jason Bradford. Welcome to Crazy Town, where the circular economy is burning coal capturing the carbon dioxide from it and turning it into gasoline.
Melody Allison
Hi, this is Crazy Town producer Melody Allison. Thanks for listening. Here in Season five, we're exploring Phalse Prophets and the dangerous messages they're so intent on spreading. If you like what you're hearing, please let
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