The Diversity Gap: Impact Over Intentions - A Conversation w/ Terence Lester
08/17/21 • 47 min
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Chapter Two: Impact Over Intentions
Insight: The impact of your organizational culture on people of color is more important than your good intentions for diversity.
Action: Prioritize hearing, believing, and following the leadership of people of color. Follow the lead of those most impacted by the problem.
Terence is a speaker, an activist, an author and thought leader on systemic poverty. He’s known for nationwide campaigns that bring awareness to issues surrounding homelessness and economic inequality. His awareness campaigns have been featured on MLK50, CNN, Good Morning America, TVONE, Creative Mornings, USA Today, NBC, AJC, Black Enterprise, Rolling Out, Upworthy, and have been viewed by millions of people worldwide.
In 2013, Terence founded the non-profit “Love Beyond Walls” and has helped hundreds of individuals experiencing homelessness and poverty to rebuild their lives. In 2019, Terence launched the Dignity Museum, the first shipping container museum in the U.S. specifically dedicated telling the stories of people who’ve experienced homelessness.
Terence has written six books, and his new book, “When We Stand: The Power Of Seeking Justice Together,” released in May. He also holds four degrees and is working towards his Ph.D. at Union Institute & University in Public Policy & Social Change.
So clearly, Terence is someone who has so much to teach us. But what I loved most about this conversation was how Terence pulled from his personal story and lived experiences to illuminate the nuances of living in a racialized society. This is a stellar conversation. Enjoy!
Access episode transcript here.
The Diversity Gap exists to help leaders pair their good intentions for diversity with true cultural change.
You can order the book, The Diversity Gap, at www.thediversitygap.com.
Bethaney Wilkinson is the Host and Executive Producer.
Final Production is by Live Grace Productions.
Thank you to our guests and patrons who make this podcast possible!
Instagram - @bethaneywilkinson @thediversitygap
Website - www.bethaneywilkinson.com
Episode Links
Website: http://terencelester.org
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imterencelester/
Love Beyond Walls: http://www.lovebeyondwalls.org
Racial Identity Development for BIPOC: https://catholicvolunteernetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/The-Ladder-of-Empowerment-for-POC.pdf
Racial Identity Development for White folks:https://www.fammed.wisc.edu/files/webfm-uploads/documents/diversity/LifeLongJourney.pdf
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Chapter Two: Impact Over Intentions
Insight: The impact of your organizational culture on people of color is more important than your good intentions for diversity.
Action: Prioritize hearing, believing, and following the leadership of people of color. Follow the lead of those most impacted by the problem.
Terence is a speaker, an activist, an author and thought leader on systemic poverty. He’s known for nationwide campaigns that bring awareness to issues surrounding homelessness and economic inequality. His awareness campaigns have been featured on MLK50, CNN, Good Morning America, TVONE, Creative Mornings, USA Today, NBC, AJC, Black Enterprise, Rolling Out, Upworthy, and have been viewed by millions of people worldwide.
In 2013, Terence founded the non-profit “Love Beyond Walls” and has helped hundreds of individuals experiencing homelessness and poverty to rebuild their lives. In 2019, Terence launched the Dignity Museum, the first shipping container museum in the U.S. specifically dedicated telling the stories of people who’ve experienced homelessness.
Terence has written six books, and his new book, “When We Stand: The Power Of Seeking Justice Together,” released in May. He also holds four degrees and is working towards his Ph.D. at Union Institute & University in Public Policy & Social Change.
So clearly, Terence is someone who has so much to teach us. But what I loved most about this conversation was how Terence pulled from his personal story and lived experiences to illuminate the nuances of living in a racialized society. This is a stellar conversation. Enjoy!
Access episode transcript here.
The Diversity Gap exists to help leaders pair their good intentions for diversity with true cultural change.
You can order the book, The Diversity Gap, at www.thediversitygap.com.
Bethaney Wilkinson is the Host and Executive Producer.
Final Production is by Live Grace Productions.
Thank you to our guests and patrons who make this podcast possible!
Instagram - @bethaneywilkinson @thediversitygap
Website - www.bethaneywilkinson.com
Episode Links
Website: http://terencelester.org
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imterencelester/
Love Beyond Walls: http://www.lovebeyondwalls.org
Racial Identity Development for BIPOC: https://catholicvolunteernetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/The-Ladder-of-Empowerment-for-POC.pdf
Racial Identity Development for White folks:https://www.fammed.wisc.edu/files/webfm-uploads/documents/diversity/LifeLongJourney.pdf
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The Diversity Gap: Racism is the Problem - What Equity and Justice Require of Us w/ Tamice Spencer
Chapter 1: Racism is the Problem - What Equity and Justice Require of Us w/ Tamice Spencer
Insight: Your team’s lack of “racial diversity” is not the root of the problem. Racism and white supremacy are the root problems.
Action: Adjust your perspectives and strategies accordingly.My conversation partner for this episode is Tamice Spencer. Tamice graduated from Virginia Commonwealth University with a double major Bachelor’s degree in Religious Studies and Advertising. At age 20 she felt the call to vocational ministry quite strongly and hasn’t looked back. She has worked with hundreds of young adults and has a passion for learning, speaking, songwriting, and teaching.
Tamice is the Founder of Sub:Culture Incorporated a non profit that seeks to eradicate barriers for black college students. Sub: Culture Incorporated was created with students on the margins in mind and a longing to see them centered, and holistically cared for while on campus. Tamice is also co-founder of the Kingdom Collaborative, an Atlanta based collective of HBCU ministry practitioners. For six years she served on full-time staff with Intervarsity Christian Fellowship and the last two years on staff as the Associate Area Director of HBCU Planting & Strategy for the Southeast Region.
Episode Transcript Available Here
About The Diversity Gap
The Diversity Gap Academy exists to help leaders pair their good intentions for diversity with true cultural change.
You can order the book, The Diversity Gap, at www.thediversitygap.com.
Bethaney Wilkinson is the Host and Executive Producer.
Final Production is by Live Grace Productions.
Thank you to our guests and patrons who make this podcast possible!
Instagram - @bethaneywilkinson @thediversitygap
Website - www.bethaneywilkinson.com
Links from the Episode
Website: https://www.tamicenamae.org
Sub:Culture Incorporated: https://www.subcultureinc.org
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The Diversity Gap: Motivation Matters - Interrogating White Racial Identity and Practicing Antiracism w/ Jenny Potter
Chapter 3: Motivation Matters - Interrogating White Racial Identity and Practicing Antiracism w/ Jenny Potter
Insight: Your motivation for diversifying your team matters.
Action: If your motivation is to honor people's dignity, keep going. If your motivation is to appear relevant, stop now.
Jenny Booth Potter is a woman who has dedicated her life to practicing antiracism and to supporting the work of Black women activists. Jenny is thoughtful and brings so much clarity and conviction to her antiracism work. In this conversation, we dive into what it’s been like for her as a white woman to go on a journey of show up to the work of racial justice with consistency and authenticity.
I am grateful for Jenny’s voice and leadership, and I know you will be too.
Episode Transcript is Available Here
About The Diversity Gap
The Diversity Gap exists to help leaders pair their good intentions for diversity with true cultural change.
You can order the book, The Diversity Gap, at www.thediversitygap.com.
Bethaney Wilkinson is the Host and Executive Producer.
Final Production is by Live Grace Productions.
Thank you to our guests and patrons who make this podcast possible!
Instagram - @bethaneywilkinson @thediversitygap
Website - www.bethaneywilkinson.com
Links from the Show
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennybpotter/
Website: http://jennyboothpotter.com
TNQ Show: https://www.tnqshow.com
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