Scammers, Inc.: MJ-12, Bennewitz & Serpo

04/28/21 • 50 min

EPISODE 31 | Scammers, Inc.: MJ-12, Bennewitz & Serpo

Sometimes the crap piles up so high in the UFO world you'd need a flying saucer to stay above it all. And yet, man, these are some good stories! We look at three key events from the 1980s: the Majestic 12 claims, Project Serpo, and the sad & infuriating Bennewitz Affair. And some of the people who might be behind it all.

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SECTIONS

01:32 - Majestic 12
02:27 - Wait a Minute, Mr. Postman! Jaime Shandera, Stanton Friedman & Bill Moore; the Cutler-Twining Memo and more
05:15 - The Dirty Dozen - original MJ-12 members
08:20 - James Forrestal - an untimely death
09:30 - Later rumors about Forrestal
10:06 - Other possible Council of Twelve candidates
10:47 - Bill & Dick's Bogus Journey - the FBI investigates, Friedman theorizes, Moore probably started it all, Linda Moulton Howe talks with Richard Doty
16:09 - Majestic by Any Other Name - Tim Cooper & Robert Wood continue MJ-12 stuff
17:00 - Milton William Cooper (again!)
18:07 - Cooper's affidavit on MJ-12 - What a story! (and a possible source for "Q-level clearance")
27:12 - The Bennewitz Affair - Paul Bennewitz reports strange things, gets targeted by fake M.I.B.s
29:01 - Richard Doty takes over the campaign, he & Bill Moore drive Bennewitz insane...on purpose
29:54 - Doty & Moore talk grey aliens, Dulce Base
30:56 - Project Beta - the elaborate story Bennewitz believes, and it ends badly for him
34:34 - Project Serpo - a human-alien exchange program with Zeta Reticuli outed by Richard Doty, another complicated tale
39:00 - Bill Ryan starts a Serpo website, possibly as part of a PR push for a book by Doty
40:41 - Len Kasten writes about Serpo, Howe & Doty chat, Steven Spielberg is in the loop
41:49 - Bob Lazar gets in on Serpo (natch)
43:15 - The Truth is (Not) Out There - The Imaginary Intelligence Agency or Scammer's, Inc.
44:20 - An attempt to weave it all together, and an invitation to Doty & Moore
48:33 - Follow the breadcrumbs

Music by Fanette Ronjat

More on these topics

FBI Records: The Vault Majestic 12 documents
1993 FBI reaction to MJ-12 documents
Conspiracy Weary - article about MJ-12 investigation by FBI
The New Bogus Majestic-12 Documents by Philip Klass at Skeptical Inquirer
The Majestic 12 Papers - An Analysis at The Roswell Files
Majestic Documents - a comprehensive catalogue
Mounting Evidence For Authenticity of MJ-12 Documents by Robert Wood, MUFON paper
UFO Explorations article on Majestic-12 documents being hoaxed
Behold a Pale Horse by Milton William Cooper
Majestic 12 page on ufos-aliens.co.uk, includes Cooper's affidavit
Yellow Book: History of Aliens on Earth by Gil Carlson & Bob Lazar
Huffington Post article on Richard Doty
Civilian Intelligence News Service article on Richard Doty
Webpage on the Greys
Project Beta by Greg Bishop - book about the Bennewitz Affair
Article on Dulce Base secret alien war

EPISODE 31 | Scammers, Inc.: MJ-12, Bennewitz & Serpo

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SECTIONS

01:32 - Majestic 12
02:27 - Wait a Minute, Mr. Postman! Jaime Shandera, Stanton Friedman & Bill Moore; the Cutler-Twining Memo and more
05:15 - The Dirty Dozen - original MJ-12 members
08:20 - James Forrestal - an untimely death
09:30 - Later rumors about Forrestal
10:06 - Other possible Council of Twelve candidates
10:47 - Bill & Dick's Bogus Journey - the FBI investigates, Friedman theorizes, Moore probably started it all, Linda Moulton Howe talks with Richard Doty
16:09 - Majestic by Any Other Name - Tim Cooper & Robert Wood continue MJ-12 stuff
17:00 - Milton William Cooper (again!)
18:07 - Cooper's affidavit on MJ-12 - What a story! (and a possible source for "Q-level clearance")
27:12 - The Bennewitz Affair - Paul Bennewitz reports strange things, gets targeted by fake M.I.B.s
29:01 - Richard Doty takes over the campaign, he & Bill Moore drive Bennewitz insane...on purpose
29:54 - Doty & Moore talk grey aliens, Dulce Base
30:56 - Project Beta - the elaborate story Bennewitz believes, and it ends badly for him
34:34 - Project Serpo - a human-alien exchange program with Zeta Reticuli outed by Richard Doty, another complicated tale
39:00 - Bill Ryan starts a Serpo website, possibly as part of a PR push for a book by Doty
40:41 - Len Kasten writes about Serpo, Howe & Doty chat, Steven Spielberg is in the loop
41:49 - Bob Lazar gets in on Serpo (natch)
43:15 - The Truth is (Not) Out There - The Imaginary Intelligence Agency or Scammer's, Inc.
44:20 - An attempt to weave it all together, and an invitation to Doty & Moore
48:33 - Follow the breadcrumbs

Music by Fanette Ronjat

Previous Episode

UFOs in Czecho

EPISODE 30 | UFOs in Czecho

Guest: Sam Beckwith, editor of Prague Pig

Today Conspiracy Clearinghouse celebrates one year of delving into the weird, so we thought we'd celebrate by doing a crossover episode with our sister podcast Prague Times. The UFO thing is not exclusively an American phenomenon, and even here in the Czech Republic, where we're based, there have been plenty of reports and reactions.

Prague-based journalist Sam Beckwith takes us through the most famous UFO sightings in the area (some going back centuries), how the Communists dealt with reports of strange craft, citizen-led initiatives, the Czech Silver Men, a UFO church and more. This is a special crossover episode with our sister podcast, Prague Times.

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SECTIONS

02:00 - UFOs as cultural phenomenon, as narratives
07:50 - Projekt Záře
09:30 - Vranov nad Dyjí - the most famous Czech sighting
13:55 - A saucer too far - Communists hate mysteries, Nazi UFO in Prague
16:27 - Centuries of sightings - flaming wheels, time-displaced tanks
20:19 - Slatiny, 1938, the Číhošť Miracle, Loose lips get you killed
22:21 - Ostružná Nová Ves - a teeny spacecraft that sucks, Miličín - balls and figures in Czech Siberia, Don't call me stupid
26:55 - Aliens tour our spa towns, The summer of '93 - sightings all over, including Svitavy
31:13 - The Silver Men (Stříbrňáci)
33:14 - Crop circles, Fidel's cigars, Are you normal?
37:19 - Universe People (Vesmírní lidé sil světla) - a Czech and Slovak UFO church
39:16 - Ashtar Galactic Command
41:44 - The Spooky Book and other Czech Forteana (coming soon!)

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Next Episode

A View to a Vril

EPISODE 32 | A View to Vril

Did a 19th century novelist accidentally tap into a long hidden truth about an underground race of godlike beings who control an electrical fluid called the Vril? Of course not. But that hasn't stopped plenty of folks from claiming it as fact, including Theosophists, Nazis, New Agers, a race car journalist turned UFO church guru and psychologist Wilhelm Reich (kind of). Just to name a few.

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SECTIONS

01:47 - Author, Author - Edward Bulwer-Lytton writes a book or 40
04:24 - The Coming Race, Blavatsky chimes in
08:25 - Vril für das Vaterland - supposition as history, the Society for Truth, the Black Sun, the Vienna Circle (2.0), Nazi occultism, the Morning of the Magicians
12:07 - Maria Orsic - the Vril Society, Nazi UFOs, alien contact, plus she was super pretty
14:43 - Karl Haushofer and the Vril Society
16:25 - What's the Time? It's Time to Get Vril! - Norbert Jürgen Ratthofer, Jan Van Helsing, Lords of the Black Stone (Templars meet Nazis), using telepathy to contact aliens, the aliens are a little bit racist
19:56 - The Vril can create or destroy, Foo Fighters, Operation Paperclip had a secret
21:29 - Just Vril Out, Man - Gray Barker & Valiant Thor (Commander X), Venusian space commander; Frank Stranges - preacher and prophet
25:36 - The Vrillon Incident - we interrupt this broadcast, Claude Vorilhon and International Raëlian Movement/Church
30:42 - Wilhelm Reich - Here Today, Orgone Tomorrow
36:03 - Mistakenly arrested, retreat to Orgonon, Maine, more allegations
38:15 - UFOs and HIGs becoming bothersome - Deadly Orgone Radiation (DOR), cloudbuster machines, weather control, HIGs (Hoodlums in Government), legal injunction, UFO battles in the desert, arrested again, the US government burns books
43:01 - Reich's legacy, a big hit with the counterculture