
Shifting Paradigms: How Trust Transforms Teams and Leadership with Stephen M.R. Covey, Author of The Speed of Trust
09/17/24 • 62 min
This episode features an interview with Stephen M.R. Covey, author of The Speed of Trust and Co-founder of FranklinCovey’s Global Trust Practice. He is a sought-after international speaker, who has taught trust and leadership to business, government, military, education, healthcare, and NGO entities. As the former President and CEO of the Covey Leadership Center, Stephen increased shareholder value by 67 times and grew the company to become the largest leadership development firm in the world.
In this episode, Shawn sits down with Stephen to discuss the foundational concepts of trust and leadership, practical strategies for enabling authenticity, and the importance of having a growth mindset.
Hear more from Stephen when he participates in the World Business Forum this October!
-------------------
“The style of leadership that maybe has taken us to where we are today in a different world, is not going to be where we need to go tomorrow in a new world of remote work and hybrid work and intentionally flexible work with younger generations. Gen Z have a completely different expectation of how they want to be engaged and led. With work becoming far more collaborative and interdependent and with technology changing, disrupting everything with AI, with all these things happening, we need a new way to lead in a new world of work. Maybe command and control got us to where we are today, but trust and inspire is what's going to take us to where we need to go tomorrow.” – Stephen M.R. Covey
-------------------
Episode Timestamps:
*(03:32): Getting to know Stephen
*(13:14): The reciprocity of trust
*(26:37): Building stewardship agreements
*(31:22): Trust and inspire vs. command and control
*(41:49): Authenticity and vulnerability in leadership
*(54:06): The need for a growth mindset
-------------------
Links:
Learn more about FranklinCovey’s Global Trust Practice
Connect with Stephen on LinkedIn
This episode features an interview with Stephen M.R. Covey, author of The Speed of Trust and Co-founder of FranklinCovey’s Global Trust Practice. He is a sought-after international speaker, who has taught trust and leadership to business, government, military, education, healthcare, and NGO entities. As the former President and CEO of the Covey Leadership Center, Stephen increased shareholder value by 67 times and grew the company to become the largest leadership development firm in the world.
In this episode, Shawn sits down with Stephen to discuss the foundational concepts of trust and leadership, practical strategies for enabling authenticity, and the importance of having a growth mindset.
Hear more from Stephen when he participates in the World Business Forum this October!
-------------------
“The style of leadership that maybe has taken us to where we are today in a different world, is not going to be where we need to go tomorrow in a new world of remote work and hybrid work and intentionally flexible work with younger generations. Gen Z have a completely different expectation of how they want to be engaged and led. With work becoming far more collaborative and interdependent and with technology changing, disrupting everything with AI, with all these things happening, we need a new way to lead in a new world of work. Maybe command and control got us to where we are today, but trust and inspire is what's going to take us to where we need to go tomorrow.” – Stephen M.R. Covey
-------------------
Episode Timestamps:
*(03:32): Getting to know Stephen
*(13:14): The reciprocity of trust
*(26:37): Building stewardship agreements
*(31:22): Trust and inspire vs. command and control
*(41:49): Authenticity and vulnerability in leadership
*(54:06): The need for a growth mindset
-------------------
Links:
Learn more about FranklinCovey’s Global Trust Practice
Connect with Stephen on LinkedIn
Previous Episode

Why Control is for Amateurs with Rachel Happe, Founder of Engaged Organizations
This episode features an interview with Rachel Happe, Founder and Digital Workplace, Organization, and Community Strategist at Engaged Organizations. She started Engaged Organizations to focus on helping organizations adapt to new technologies and accelerate knowledge supply chains while improving trust, transparency, and agility. She is a sought after speaker and expert on the impact of technology on engagement, relationships, and culture and has keynoted at several digital workplace conferences.
In this episode, Shawn and Rachel discuss treating employees as assets rather than machines, rewarding human contributions, and valuing emotional and social aspects in the workplace.
-------------------
“We still have this mechanistic system and the human system, and we're still treating humans like machines. I wrote a post a while back, because I was getting really annoyed reading about how AI could help employees. It was all like, ‘It can do these 10 tasks for you.’ And I'm like, ‘If that's all we are, we should go home.’ It's the mindset of what we think employees or people's value is. The example I use in presentations is diamonds. Why are diamonds valuable? They're rocks. De Beers made them mean something. You know who can't make something mean something to somebody else? AI. The value of people is activating other people. And value is meaning.” – Rachel Happe
-------------------
Episode Timestamps:
*(02:20): Getting to know Rachel
*(10:27): Rachel’s career background
*(15:42): Employees are not machines
*(21:50): How to calculate the value of community
*(32:21): The role of AI in community
*(42:39): The current and future state of valuing humans
-------------------
Links:
Connect with Rachel on LinkedIn
Learn more about Engaged Organizations
Read Ed Zitron’s They’re Looting The Internet
Next Episode

Navigating the AI Revolution in Comms with Shaun Randol, Founder of Mister Editorial
This episode features an interview with Shaun Randol, Founder of Mister Editorial, a mixternal communications newsletter. Shaun has spent a large portion of his career piloting communications for international companies such as Bloomberg and BlackRock.
In this episode, Shawn and Shaun discuss the myth of planning in storytelling, the importance of adapting to new technologies, and maintaining a strategic perspective on the evolution of communications work.
-------------------
“I think those of us who have 10 to 15 years left in their career, can't ignore [AI]. They should embrace it, learn to use it. Dial in to one or two tools or use cases and become deeply expert at it immediately. Change comms, multimedia, photography, graphics, storytelling, whatever it is. Pick one or two because there's many of them out there and just get known for it as soon as possible, because that expertise will be needed.” – Shaun Randol
-------------------
Episode Timestamps:
*(02:26): Getting to know Shaun
*(09:12): Where Shaun stands today on AI replacing people
*(14:19): How technology changes the way we communicate
*(18:45): Shaun’s opinion on slowing down generative AI
*(29:36): Shaun’s advice for comms professionals using AI
*(35:44): Other ways comms professionals can embrace AI
-------------------
Links:
Connect with Shaun on LinkedIn
If you like this episode you’ll love
Episode Comments
Generate a badge
Get a badge for your website that links back to this episode
<a href="https://goodpods.com/podcasts/cohesion-400716/shifting-paradigms-how-trust-transforms-teams-and-leadership-with-step-74022273"> <img src="https://storage.googleapis.com/goodpods-images-bucket/badges/generic-badge-1.svg" alt="listen to shifting paradigms: how trust transforms teams and leadership with stephen m.r. covey, author of the speed of trust on goodpods" style="width: 225px" /> </a>
Copy