
Ep1: Burning Up: The Climate Challenge
01/25/22 • 48 min
We're awfully good at burning things up in the name of progress -- coal, oil, gas, Amazon rain forests. We're not as good at factoring in the real cost of those choices, on our health, and on the health of the planet.
In this first episode of the COAL+ICE podcast, top climate journalists talk about what these choices look like where they live -- in China, South Africa and Brazil -- and what's being done, and needs to be done, to bend the curve on climate change.
Joining host Mary Kay Magistad are:
Ma Tianjie, program director in Beijing of China Dialogue, a non-profit online platform that focuses on the environment and climate change, especially as related to China. He was previously with Greenpeace, as program director for Mainland China.
Tunicia Phillips, an award-winning environment, climate and business reporter with South Africa's Mail & Guardian investigative weekly.
Jon Watts is global environment editor for The Guardian newspaper in the UK. He's a former correspondent for The Guardian in China, Brazil and Japan, and author of the book "When a BIllion Chinese Jump: How China Will Save Mankind or Destroy It," about the environmental impact of China's rapid development. Jon is now spending a year in Brazil's Amazon, writing another book.
We're awfully good at burning things up in the name of progress -- coal, oil, gas, Amazon rain forests. We're not as good at factoring in the real cost of those choices, on our health, and on the health of the planet.
In this first episode of the COAL+ICE podcast, top climate journalists talk about what these choices look like where they live -- in China, South Africa and Brazil -- and what's being done, and needs to be done, to bend the curve on climate change.
Joining host Mary Kay Magistad are:
Ma Tianjie, program director in Beijing of China Dialogue, a non-profit online platform that focuses on the environment and climate change, especially as related to China. He was previously with Greenpeace, as program director for Mainland China.
Tunicia Phillips, an award-winning environment, climate and business reporter with South Africa's Mail & Guardian investigative weekly.
Jon Watts is global environment editor for The Guardian newspaper in the UK. He's a former correspondent for The Guardian in China, Brazil and Japan, and author of the book "When a BIllion Chinese Jump: How China Will Save Mankind or Destroy It," about the environmental impact of China's rapid development. Jon is now spending a year in Brazil's Amazon, writing another book.
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Introducing COAL+ICE Podcast
We're all living with climate change, but what can we do about it? Join host Mary Kay Magistad, for global conversations on what's happening with climate change around the world, and what's being done to bend the curve. This biweekly Asia Society podcast starts in late January 2022.
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COAL + ICE Podcast - Ep1: Burning Up: The Climate Challenge
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[00:00:00] Mary Kay Magistad: Welcome to the COAL+ICE Podcast, an Asia Society podcast that brings you global conversations on how the climate crisis is changing the world and what we can do about it. I'm Mary Kay Magistad. The name of this podcast comes from a photo exhibition the Center's director, Orville Schell, first helped put together a decade ago in Beijing with Magnum photographers Susan Meiselas and Dutch exhibition designer Jeroen de Vries. It was originally of Chin
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