
Frances Ha - w/ Movies & Us on Adulting
09/11/24 • 75 min
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MOVIE DISCUSSION:
Movies & Us: Podcast, Instagram, Threads
TV & Us: Podcast, Instagram, Threads
Jen & Sarah from the Movies & Us Podcast join Melvin to discuss an early 2010's indie classic, Frances Ha! From it's deep relatability to it's clever humor, the three explore what makes the film stand out as a testament to growing up even when you're all grown up.
Topics:
- (PATREON EXCLUSIVE) 40-minutes discussing three trailers - The Monkey, the live-action Snow White, and Kraven the Hunter - and ranking their excitement based on these wildly different films. (PATREON EXCLUSIVE)
- Jen & Sarah just celebrated their 6-year podcasting anniversary. Melvin spends some time asking about what they’ve learned throughout that experience.
- There’s a showcase of girlhood and sisterhood that is gently explored throughout the film.
- The film is in black and white, and Melvin feels this highlights the "color" experienced in Frances and her relationships.
- Money is consistently an issue throughout the movie, and Sarah, Jen, and Mel all appreciated how the film doesn't imply that having more money is the solution to Frances' problems.
- Celebrating an ending that ties every theme together.
- Jen, "Man, I love this type of movie and would love to see more of these types of small stories get funded and onto the big screen."
Recommendations:
- The Forty-Year-Old Version (2020) (Movie)
- The Harder They Fall (2021) (Movie)
- Annie Hall (1977) (Movie)
Support on Patreon for Unique Perks!
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- Vote on a movie/show we review
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MOVIE DISCUSSION:
Movies & Us: Podcast, Instagram, Threads
TV & Us: Podcast, Instagram, Threads
Jen & Sarah from the Movies & Us Podcast join Melvin to discuss an early 2010's indie classic, Frances Ha! From it's deep relatability to it's clever humor, the three explore what makes the film stand out as a testament to growing up even when you're all grown up.
Topics:
- (PATREON EXCLUSIVE) 40-minutes discussing three trailers - The Monkey, the live-action Snow White, and Kraven the Hunter - and ranking their excitement based on these wildly different films. (PATREON EXCLUSIVE)
- Jen & Sarah just celebrated their 6-year podcasting anniversary. Melvin spends some time asking about what they’ve learned throughout that experience.
- There’s a showcase of girlhood and sisterhood that is gently explored throughout the film.
- The film is in black and white, and Melvin feels this highlights the "color" experienced in Frances and her relationships.
- Money is consistently an issue throughout the movie, and Sarah, Jen, and Mel all appreciated how the film doesn't imply that having more money is the solution to Frances' problems.
- Celebrating an ending that ties every theme together.
- Jen, "Man, I love this type of movie and would love to see more of these types of small stories get funded and onto the big screen."
Recommendations:
- The Forty-Year-Old Version (2020) (Movie)
- The Harder They Fall (2021) (Movie)
- Annie Hall (1977) (Movie)
Support on Patreon for Unique Perks!
- Early access to uncut episodes
- Vote on a movie/show we review
- One-time reward of two Cinematic Doctrine Stickers & Pins
Social Links:
Previous Episode

The Outsiders – w/ The Filmjoe Podcast on a Golden, Sophomoric, Teenage Reflection
MOVIE DISCUSSION:
The Filmjoe Podcast: Spotify / Instagram / YouTube
Joe Velazquez of The Filmjoe Podcast joins Melvin to discuss Francis Ford Coppola’s The Outsiders, the movie based upon a staple grade-school book-assignment! The two discuss the atmosphere of a realized world, experiences soaked in nostalgia, and the painful beauty in growing up.
Topics:
- (PATREON EXCLUSIVE) 25-minutes of discussing SDCC 2024 with Joe, who was at the convention, about what the experience was like, what were his highlights, and the general vibe around the Robert Downey Jr./Dr. Doom announcement in a post-Marvel fatigue world. (PATREON EXCLUSIVE)
- Joe shares about being “pushed” into podcasting, how he’s innovated on his podcast format, and his favorite episode (which you can listen to here!).
- Joe, “In my opinion, outside of The Godfather and Apocalypse Now, [The Outsiders] is one of his best films.”
- Melvin watched the film but felt like he didn’t pick up everything he wanted. But, no worries, because he liked it so much that he just watched it again the following day.
- There are constant little moments where characters allude to a newfound awareness of their age, or how things have changed.
- The movie is gentle in depicting what are literal social outsiders; people most wouldn’t even bother to observe or respond to.
- At least in the director’s cut (The Outsiders: The Complete Novel) there are tons of licensed tracks, specifically from Elvis Presley.
- There are many times when one of the boys is so overwhelmed with emotion that they run away from a situation.
- Discussing the ending, both the theatrical cut and the director’s cut.
Recommendations:
- Cine-ful Cuts (Podcast)
- Ouch, Was That a Ghost? (Podcast)
- Trap (2024) (Movie)
Support on Patreon for Unique Perks!
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- Vote on a movie/show we review
- One-time reward of two Cinematic Doctrine Stickers & Pins
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Next Episode

Your Name. - w/ Beneath the Tangles on Shinkai's Melancholic Filmography
MOVIE DISCUSSION:
Beneath the Tangles: Instagram / YouTube / X / Website
Twwk (Charles) from Beneath the Tangles joins Melvin to discuss the hugely popular anime film Your Name. from Makoto Shinkai. From its Studio Ghibli-esque accessibility, its stunningly detailed animation, and Shinkai's filmography, the two discuss all sorts of topics in this dense episode! Tune in now!
Topics:
- (PATREON EXCLUSIVE) 43-minutes playing an "Anime Draft" where-in Charles & Melvin each draft 5 anime in competition, discuss each show/movie mentioned along the way, and then decide which projects they'd watch in the end. (PATREON EXCLUSIVE)
- Beyond the Tangles has a lot of functions and contributors: a blog, cosplayers, twitch streamers, podcasts, and a social media presence. Charles shares all about it, and Melvin asks about their mission.
- Charles was surprised to hear that Your Name. is still a critical success in the west, as he never saw the film as a “critic’s movie”.
- Melvin was disappointed he didn’t connect with the film, and distinctly remembers being in the movie theater during its western premiere and thinking during a pivotal scene, “I wish I was emotional right now. I wish I was crying right now.”
- It seems Your Name. is playing with a mixture of various anime tropes, Japanese folklore, and even details in Shinkai’s filmography.
- Discussing themes of threading relationships.
- Melvin complains about the twist, and how it didn't really work for him.
- The whole film functions on a breakneck pace. Mundanity is thrown to the wayside.
- Discussing and appreciating the ending.
Recommendations:
- Frieren: Beyond Journey's End (2023) (Anime)
- Chainsaw Maid (2007) (Claymation)
Support on Patreon for Unique Perks!
- Early access to uncut episodes
- Vote on a movie/show we review
- One-time reward of two Cinematic Doctrine Stickers & Pins
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