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Chris's Courses @ Westlink - Hell, pt. 2

Hell, pt. 2

05/07/20 • 37 min

Chris's Courses @ Westlink

Handout available here
Review: Does hell torment, destroy, or purify?
Matthew 25:46 - How to translate and understand "eternal punishment"
Give 'em hell! Why we hold on to hell as torment
Objections to 'everyone goes to heaven!'
Purpose of Punishment

  • Earthly and heavenly parental discipline (Matt 7:9-11)
  • Padeiai, timoria, and kolasis - which does God not use?
  • Retributive and restorative justice
  • Justice = punishment fits the crime
  • In the end, does God change?

The Mystery and Consistency of God

  • Misuse of Isaiah 55:8-9 (see v. 7)
  • Faithful followers question God's justice (Gen 18:25)
  • Language, consistency, and meaning
  • God's primary attribute (1 John 4)

The Parable of the King's Offer (Bradley Jersak)

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Handout available here
Review: Does hell torment, destroy, or purify?
Matthew 25:46 - How to translate and understand "eternal punishment"
Give 'em hell! Why we hold on to hell as torment
Objections to 'everyone goes to heaven!'
Purpose of Punishment

  • Earthly and heavenly parental discipline (Matt 7:9-11)
  • Padeiai, timoria, and kolasis - which does God not use?
  • Retributive and restorative justice
  • Justice = punishment fits the crime
  • In the end, does God change?

The Mystery and Consistency of God

  • Misuse of Isaiah 55:8-9 (see v. 7)
  • Faithful followers question God's justice (Gen 18:25)
  • Language, consistency, and meaning
  • God's primary attribute (1 John 4)

The Parable of the King's Offer (Bradley Jersak)

Previous Episode

undefined - Hell, pt. 1

Hell, pt. 1

Handout available here
What's hell like? What's it for?
What if there were no hell?
1 John 4:18, do we focus on fear or love?
Greek, Hebrew, and English terms
Sheol/Hades - the place of the dead (NOT hell)
Gehenna/corr

  • Only 12 occurrences (really 6)
  • Valley of the Sons of Hinnom, place of child sacrifice (2 Chronicles 28:3)
  • Place of judgment by Babylon (Jeremiah 7:31-32)
  • Jesus' use mirrors Jeremiah, with coming Roman destruction
  • Brad Jersak, Her Gates Will Never Be Shut

Meaning of 'aionios' - eternal?

  • How long it lasts or qualities of Age to come?
  • Hebrews 9:12 & 2 Thessalonians 1:9
  • Happens once and endures

Hell as Destruction

  • Edward Fudge, The Fire That Consumes
  • John 3:16 - what it plainly says and how it's interpreted
  • Matthew 10:28; Romans 2:12; 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3; Galatians 6:8 - destroyed/perish/corruption
  • Implies destruction that endures, not ongoing torture
  • Plato vs. Paul
  • Is destruction not bad enough?

Next Episode

undefined - Hell, pt. 3

Hell, pt. 3

Handout available here
"All" passages exercise
Which view do we privilege or take at face value?
Does God get what God wants? (1 Tim 2:4 & 2 Pet 3:9)
Love gives freedom
"The doors of hell are locked on the inside." -C.S. Lewis
Definitions of freedom, modern vs. classic
Sin as ignorance
'Freedom' that's actually insanity
The cleansing fire of God - who or what consumed? (Heb 12:29)
Hell as unwanted loving presence of God
Justice and discipline (Rom 12:19-21)
Christian cleansing (Mark 9:49-50)
Next: Test case in Revelation 14 & 21-22 and your questions!

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