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Chinatown 2.0 - Ep. 7: China historian Anne Chao grew up on four continents, archives oral history of Chinese Americans

Ep. 7: China historian Anne Chao grew up on four continents, archives oral history of Chinese Americans

09/16/20 • 55 min

Chinatown 2.0

Professor Anne Chao is a Chinese modern historian that lectures at Rice University. She is also manager of the Houston Asian American Archive, an oral history archive that looks to document the challenges faced and contributions made by the Asian American community.

As the daughter of a Taiwanese diplomat, Anne moved between Congo, Australia, Washington DC, and Taiwan as a kid. Her Ph.D. dissertation was on the social networks of Chen Duxiu, co-founder of the Chinese Communist Party and publisher of the influential magazine Xin Qingnian, or New Youth.

In this interview, we covered her multi-continental childhood, views on Asian’s involvement in politics, a history of discrimination suffered by Asian Americans, inspiring stories from the Houston Asian American archive, and her work on Chen Duxiu.

Houston Asian American Archive (HAAA) oral histories: https://haaa.rice.edu/

Intro
* Multi-continental childhood between Congo, Australia, Washington DC and Taiwan
* Nativism, liberalism, populism of major Western countries today
* Black Lives Matter awakens Asian Americans to more active political participation
* A brief history of discrimination of Chinese, Japanese and Indian Americans
* Asians’ general inactiveness in the American political process
* Age-old question of mainstream assimilation for Asian Americans
* Stories from Houston Asian American Archive
* China’s history around the rise of Chen Duxiu and his publication 新青年

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Professor Anne Chao is a Chinese modern historian that lectures at Rice University. She is also manager of the Houston Asian American Archive, an oral history archive that looks to document the challenges faced and contributions made by the Asian American community.

As the daughter of a Taiwanese diplomat, Anne moved between Congo, Australia, Washington DC, and Taiwan as a kid. Her Ph.D. dissertation was on the social networks of Chen Duxiu, co-founder of the Chinese Communist Party and publisher of the influential magazine Xin Qingnian, or New Youth.

In this interview, we covered her multi-continental childhood, views on Asian’s involvement in politics, a history of discrimination suffered by Asian Americans, inspiring stories from the Houston Asian American archive, and her work on Chen Duxiu.

Houston Asian American Archive (HAAA) oral histories: https://haaa.rice.edu/

Intro
* Multi-continental childhood between Congo, Australia, Washington DC and Taiwan
* Nativism, liberalism, populism of major Western countries today
* Black Lives Matter awakens Asian Americans to more active political participation
* A brief history of discrimination of Chinese, Japanese and Indian Americans
* Asians’ general inactiveness in the American political process
* Age-old question of mainstream assimilation for Asian Americans
* Stories from Houston Asian American Archive
* China’s history around the rise of Chen Duxiu and his publication 新青年

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undefined - Ep. 6: China Tech Podcaster Rui Ma talks TikTok ban, Sino-US decoupling, female expat life in China

Ep. 6: China Tech Podcaster Rui Ma talks TikTok ban, Sino-US decoupling, female expat life in China

Rui Ma is an investment banker (Morgan Stanley) turned VC (500 Startups) turned podcast host (Tech Buzz China). Her show covers current tech trends in China, with a focus on power players such as ByteDance and Alibaba. Her diaspora journey included a childhood in the China countryside, college and grad school education in the US, a career of finance/tech in Shanghai/Beijing, and podcast operations from Silicon Valley.

We discussed Bytedance ban, Niall Ferguson's "TikTok = China's digital imperium ambitions" quote, Chinese female diaspora experience, China's sexist society, the notorious 996, her podcast-turned-business and more!

Tech Buzz China podcast: https://pandaily.com/podcast/
Rui’s newsletter: https://www.getrevue.co/profile/techbuzzchina/
Rui's twitter: https://twitter.com/ruima

Rui shared with us:

Childhood in China's countryside, California education, work in China, return to Silicon Valley

* The businesslines and ambitions of ByteDance
* ByteDance acquisition of Musical.ly
* ByteDance reaction to TikTok ban
* Chinese netizens reaction to TikTok ban
* ByteDance's negative reputation in China (similar to local gaming industry)
* Niall Ferguson's demonization of TikTok as China's weaponization against the West
* China bashing recently arose from a corner of Silicon Valley Twitter
* Pandemic-induced lockdown has strengthened echo chambers on social media
* US' negative attitude on immigration deters inflow of intellectual capital
* US still top destination of tech and research talents
* Notorious 9-9-6 work schedule in China
* Tradeoffs associated with living in China as expat
* Female expat's unpleasant experience in China's sexist society
* Chinese tech podcast forces the host to do more bigger-picture research than as an venture investor
* Bringing interested podcast listeners (pubic equity investors) to visit Chinese tech giants

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undefined - Ep. 8: (Mandarin) "Chinese son-in-law" 中国女婿 Morgan Jones talks being Black in China/US

Ep. 8: (Mandarin) "Chinese son-in-law" 中国女婿 Morgan Jones talks being Black in China/US

Morgan Jones is a Black American that previously spent six years in China as a radio host, movie production assistant and EMBA English teacher. He is a “Chinese son-in-law” (中国女婿), a self-described Tiger Dad (“虎爸”) and a fluent Mandarin speaker.

He got his EMBA from Cornell and bachelors from Middlebury College, or 明德大学 in Chinese.

This episode was recorded in Mandarin. We discussed Morgan’s adventures in China, takeaways from his marriage to a Chinese woman, his relationship with Chinese in-laws, growing up Black in the US, and other American race issues such as affirmative action and recent police involved incidents.

We discussed:

* Host of a jazz radio show in Shanghai
* Teaching English to execs 20 years his senior at Nanjing University EMBA program
* Learning about Nanking massacre as an assistant for Chinese movie production
* Personal experience of semi-discrimination against Blacks in China
* Reaction to detergent commercial that turns a black person into a white person
* Minor cultural difference with his Chinese wife
* Relationship with Chinese in-laws, especially when it comes to getting their help in raising grandchildren
* Self-branded Tiger Dad
* Recent and past race related tragedies and conflicts in the US
* Call for stronger focus in building community relations in police departments
* Growing up Black in America
* Affirmative action (CA Prop 16 re-allowing racial preference to raise black/latinx representation in public colleges)

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