
US-China Tech in 2023: Top 5 Stories of the Year
12/08/23 • 54 min
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Kevin Xu of https://interconnect.substack.com/ and I run down our top five stories of the year in US-China tech. We get into:
- The eternal chip war
- The battle for AI model supremacy
- EV competition
- Venture investing in China
- PDD and Temu's rise
- TikTok's impressive resilience
Here's ChinaTalk's attempt to benchmark Chinese models https://www.chinatalk.media/p/putting-chinas-top-llms-to-the-test
Outtro music: two songs from my spotify wrapped which are kind of ancillary to crappy US-China relations?
2gether, Mura Masa and Gretel Ganlyn: https://open.spotify.com/track/1Wqd0R1X1tuVK9FySVyLpt?si=48a61ddf3f094b57
No Talk, Lowell: https://open.spotify.com/track/0ToOqwERQswtN1O7AveCU9?si=9424183956b74960
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Kevin Xu of https://interconnect.substack.com/ and I run down our top five stories of the year in US-China tech. We get into:
- The eternal chip war
- The battle for AI model supremacy
- EV competition
- Venture investing in China
- PDD and Temu's rise
- TikTok's impressive resilience
Here's ChinaTalk's attempt to benchmark Chinese models https://www.chinatalk.media/p/putting-chinas-top-llms-to-the-test
Outtro music: two songs from my spotify wrapped which are kind of ancillary to crappy US-China relations?
2gether, Mura Masa and Gretel Ganlyn: https://open.spotify.com/track/1Wqd0R1X1tuVK9FySVyLpt?si=48a61ddf3f094b57
No Talk, Lowell: https://open.spotify.com/track/0ToOqwERQswtN1O7AveCU9?si=9424183956b74960
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KMT ticket:
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TPP ticket:
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- vice president: Cynthia Wu Hsin-ying 吳欣盈
Outro music: 回春丹- 鲜花 https://open.spotify.com/track/35XxW360SO3puJQDfuaY4r
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Outtro music: I Hear a Rhapsody, Bill Evans and Jim Hall https://open.spotify.com/track/2oEvw0AfrT2fPNpEnBwVml?si=cc9f1add64034de7
Midjourney image: a panda bald eagle combined mystical animal in the style of a traditional chinese painting
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