
Peak China with Noah Smith and Matt Klein
09/22/23 • 69 min
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Noah Smith of https://www.noahpinion.blog/ and Matt Klein of https://theovershoot.co/ join ChinaTalk to discuss:
We get into:
- What's really happening with China's economy and why it matters strategically
- How China's potential peak parallels Japan's
- Why the world should and shouldn't be scared of China's progress in semis and EVs
- What another Trump Administration could do for US-China relations
- How Noah actually does his substack
This was a fun one, I hope you enjoy!
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Noah Smith of https://www.noahpinion.blog/ and Matt Klein of https://theovershoot.co/ join ChinaTalk to discuss:
We get into:
- What's really happening with China's economy and why it matters strategically
- How China's potential peak parallels Japan's
- Why the world should and shouldn't be scared of China's progress in semis and EVs
- What another Trump Administration could do for US-China relations
- How Noah actually does his substack
This was a fun one, I hope you enjoy!
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EMERGENCY POD: Huawei's Breakthrough, the Technical, Industrial and Strategic Implications
Huawei’s breakthrough Kirin 9000s: what is it, why is it a big deal, and what if anything should the US do about it? Joining me, I have on two fantastic semiconductor analysis, Doug O'Laughlin of Fabricated Knowledge and Dylan Patel of SemiAnalysis. We get into:
- How this chip illustrates Chinese engineering excellence and the porous nature of the current export control regime
- Why we can expect AI chips on par with the A100 coming out of China in the next two years
- What steps the US government could take to tighten export controls and set back the Chinese semiconductor ecosystem
- How China has come to dominate both the lagging edge and the EV space
Here's my piece on the topic: https://www.chinatalk.media/p/huaweis-breakthrough-the-strategic
And here's Dylan's: https://www.semianalysis.com/p/china-ai-and-semiconductors-rise
Outtro music: 潮州土狗 - 50元的檳榔 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjl2qabfSNs
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James Wang, partner at Creative Ventures, joins to discuss:
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This show was brought to you by Creative Ventures.
Creatives Ventures is at https://creativeventures.vc/
James writes at https://weightythoughts.com/ and tweets at @AJamesWang
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