
Re-Envisioning Management through Teaming
08/03/21 • 32 min
Are you working in an organization where it seems there are lose-lose internal dynamics among managers? If so, why is that and how can you help to change it?
The nature of work today requires collaboration and teaming to drive business outcomes like never before. Johanna Rothman, known as the “Pragmatic Manager,” provides frank advice for organizational leaders, managers and teams tackling tough problems. In this episode of Center Stage, Johanna shares how optimizing individual achievement over that of the team or organization deeply roots lose-lose propositions into organizational culture. Incorporating key concepts and learnings from her books, the Modern Management Made Easy series, she provides practical examples of how organizations are shifting structures and reward systems to create win-win engagements among managers. More importantly, she offers seven principles of modern management aimed at increasing performance, rather than overseeing people and their work. For example, the principle of catch people succeeding flips on its head the traditionally punitive, disciplinary role of management and moves it more toward motivation and recognition.
Johanna also talks about how the impact of subtle change can impact management. She presents examples that illustrate the differences among managers who have a mindset of being “responsible for” versus “responsible to” their teams. She talks about how behaviors, actions and motivations are different for each mindset as well as the impacts of each mindset on individuals and teams.
Having started her career as a software developer, Johanna has also worked as a project manager, program manager, and people manager. Today, as a consultant and trainer/coach, she helps leaders, teams, and organizations create successful teams and projects and manage risk. She has authored more than 18 books on modern management, leading teams, agile and lean program management, portfolio management and related topics. Read more of her blog, articles, and her Pragmatic Manager newsletter on www.jrothman.com.
Chock full of good practices from real-life situations, this Center Stage podcast emphasizes the key role the modern manager can play in helping teams and organizations realize outcomes.
Are you working in an organization where it seems there are lose-lose internal dynamics among managers? If so, why is that and how can you help to change it?
The nature of work today requires collaboration and teaming to drive business outcomes like never before. Johanna Rothman, known as the “Pragmatic Manager,” provides frank advice for organizational leaders, managers and teams tackling tough problems. In this episode of Center Stage, Johanna shares how optimizing individual achievement over that of the team or organization deeply roots lose-lose propositions into organizational culture. Incorporating key concepts and learnings from her books, the Modern Management Made Easy series, she provides practical examples of how organizations are shifting structures and reward systems to create win-win engagements among managers. More importantly, she offers seven principles of modern management aimed at increasing performance, rather than overseeing people and their work. For example, the principle of catch people succeeding flips on its head the traditionally punitive, disciplinary role of management and moves it more toward motivation and recognition.
Johanna also talks about how the impact of subtle change can impact management. She presents examples that illustrate the differences among managers who have a mindset of being “responsible for” versus “responsible to” their teams. She talks about how behaviors, actions and motivations are different for each mindset as well as the impacts of each mindset on individuals and teams.
Having started her career as a software developer, Johanna has also worked as a project manager, program manager, and people manager. Today, as a consultant and trainer/coach, she helps leaders, teams, and organizations create successful teams and projects and manage risk. She has authored more than 18 books on modern management, leading teams, agile and lean program management, portfolio management and related topics. Read more of her blog, articles, and her Pragmatic Manager newsletter on www.jrothman.com.
Chock full of good practices from real-life situations, this Center Stage podcast emphasizes the key role the modern manager can play in helping teams and organizations realize outcomes.
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Preparing Cognitive Athletes to Tackle Disruption
For the past two years, PMI has discussed gymnastic organizations that need to be adaptive and innovative to survive disruption. This session explores how practitioners too need to become cognitive athletes, putting adaptive, creative and sensing muscles into enhanced performance. Listen as Ade McCormack, the founder of the Disruption Readiness Institute, and Joseph Cahill explore how to prepare for an unknowable future.
As work continues to shift from enacting processes to more creative and innovative work, Ade proposes that professionals should similarly adapt:
- Develop your brand.
- Focus on traits rather than emphasizing skills.
- Focus on your humanity, rather than just your work accomplishments.
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Ade also identifies that the future of work will create challenges for organizations. Employers will need to shift their talent management approach from viewing people as simply cogs in the machine to treating them as cognitive assets that are the source of market-pleasing innovative products and services. This cultural shift means that instead of promoting efficiency and punishing failure, organizational leaders need to embrace experimenting and determining whether they are “failing enough.”
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In addition to founding the Disruption Readiness Institute, Ade has worked with some of the world's best-known brands in more than 40 countries. He has authored six books on digital and disruption and wrote for the Financial Times on the theme of digital leadership for over a decade. You can learn more about Ade’s perspectives, by visiting his blog at www.ademccormack.com.
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