Crafting Conscious Community: Brian Robertson's Psychedelic Church

02/20/25 • 52 min

Can radical acceptance be the key to both business success and personal transformation?In this episode of "Came Here to Love," host Liz Logan sits down with Brian Robertson, the creator of Holacracy, the world's most widespread framework for self-managed companies using decentralized power structures. Robertson has founded multiple successful organizations over three decades, including Holacracy One and GlassFrog. His latest venture is Ledgeway Sangha, a unique psychedelic church that focuses on creating mystics rather than priests, fostering direct experiences of love through sacred ceremonies and community healing.

The conversation weaves through Robertson's remarkable journey from successful tech entrepreneur to spiritual facilitator, including a powerful story about his relationship with his crack-addicted father that taught him profound lessons about unconditional acceptance. They explore topics ranging from sacred medicine and indigenous wisdom to conscious business leadership, discussing how inner work and radical acceptance can transform both personal relationships and organizational dynamics. The episode includes Robertson sharing his acclaimed poem "Knowing Love," which encapsulates his philosophy about love as the ultimate truth.

Brian Robertson is the creator of Holacracy, a widely adopted framework for self-managed companies that replaces traditional hierarchies with decentralized power structures. He founded HolacracyOne to help organizations unlock creativity and empower leadership. Additionally, Robertson founded GlassFrog, a software company that enhances organizational transparency and alignment. His passion for human potential is fueled by spirituality, which he often explores in talks and interviews blending business, management, and consciousness. His book, *Holacracy: The New Management System for a Rapidly Changing World*, has influenced tens of thousands of companies globally.

In this episode:

(00:00) Introduction to Brian Robertson, Creator of Holacracy, what we’re loving right now
(03:16) Brian's Work with Psychedelic Church, Introduction to Ledgeway Sangha and Its Mission
(06:45) Liz’s Background with Sacred Medicine and Indigenous Wisdom
(13:23) Brian's Journey from Business to Spiritual Leadership
(17:40) Profound Father-Son Story and Lessons in Acceptance
(23:23) A beautiful poem: Knowing Love
(30:11) Discussion on Sacred Ceremonies and Community
(37:58) Business Wisdom and Inner Work
(41:56) Perspectives on Past, Present, and Change
(48:26) Deep Reflections on Identity and Love
(52:32) Closing Words and Contact Information
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Ledgeway Sangha

Holacracy

In this episode:

(00:00) Introduction to Brian Robertson, Creator of Holacracy, what we’re loving right now
(03:16) Brian's Work with Psychedelic Church, Introduction to Ledgeway Sangha and Its Mission
(06:45) Liz’s Background with Sacred Medicine and Indigenous Wisdom
(13:23) Brian's Journey from Business to Spiritual Leadership
(17:40) Profound Father-Son Story and Lessons in Acceptance
(23:23) A beautiful poem: Knowing Love
(30:11) Discussion on Sacred Ceremonies and Community
(37:58) Business Wisdom and Inner Work
(41:56) Perspectives on Past, Present, and Change
(48:26) Deep Reflections on Identity and Love
(52:32) Closing Words and Contact Information
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Resources:

Brian J Robertson LinkedIn

Ledgeway Sangha

Holacracy

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Ancient Wisdom, Modern Spaces: Ronny Wuyts of Texture Painting

Can wall textures really change how we feel in a space? Join us for a fascinating conversation with the designer who's using local soils and natural pigments to create emotional connections in homes around the globe.Discover the answer as I sit down with visionary painter and decorator Ronny Wuyts, who has redefined interior design with his exceptional use of natural pigments and textures. Known for crafting breathtaking environments that resonate with energy and authenticity, Ronnie shares his artistic journey from a rebellious young artist to the leader of a successful team of 50 artisans. Explore the intricate world of functional and decorative plasters as we discuss the fine art of blending aesthetic beauty with technical precision. Ronny's commitment to authenticity shines as he takes us through his 15 years of perfecting bespoke finishes that echo the natural world. From crafting seamless, crack-free floors to bringing new life to historic structures, you'll walk away with an appreciation for the transformative power of design that connects deeply with its environment and the people within it. His use of local materials and natural pigments ensures that every project is a unique masterpiece, imbued with soul and character.Ronny Wuyts is a visionary painter and decorator who has made a significant mark on the global interior design scene. With a flair for designing exquisite colors and textures, Ronny specializes in high-end projects that use natural pigments to create stunning, exclusive interiors. His expertise and creativity have taken him to projects worldwide, where he transforms spaces into sophisticated works of art. Known for his meticulous attention to detail and a deep understanding of materials, Ronny continues to push the boundaries of what is possible in interior design, earning him international acclaim.

In this episode:

(00:00) Introduction to Ronny Wuyts: His philosophy on natural materials and creating unique finishes inspired by nature
(02:24) Professional Background: Overview of Ronny's work as a visionary painter and current London project using single-color design
(04:11) Texture Painting Technique: Discussion of seamless floor solutions and specialized approach to functional and decorative finishes, the importance of floors and blending environments
(12:26) Career Journey: From leaving school at 15 to founding Texture Painting and building a 50-person company
(20:17) Personal Project: Ronny’s transformation of a 15th-century chapel into his home, demonstrating his design philosophy
(24:11) Business Challenges: Managing people and maintaining work-life balance while pursuing excellence
(30:00) A message to Ronny’s younger self
(36:00) What Ronny loves right now, balancing international work with being present for his two-year-old son
(39:28) Vision for the World: Need for more color and genuine human connection in modern life, moving beyond digital interactions
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Texture Painting Website

Texture Painting IG

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From Runways to Remote Villages: Anne Menke’s Photography

at made this world-renowned photographer trade New York's fashion scene for a Mexican surf town?In this episode of "Came Here to Love," host Liz Logan connects with internationally acclaimed photographer Anne Menke, whose work spans high fashion editorials for Vogue, Sports Illustrated, and countless other prestigious publications. From her early days in Germany to becoming a sought-after fashion photographer, Menke shares her remarkable journey of following her passion with unwavering determination. Her work has taken her from the heights of fashion in Paris and New York to remote corners of the world, always capturing authentic beauty through her unique lens.

Now based in Sayulita, Mexico, Menke discusses her evolution from fast-paced fashion photographer to community builder and educator, co-founding the Costa Verde International School. She shares profound insights about slowing down, being present, and the importance of community in creative life. The conversation weaves through themes of cultural connection, authentic living, and the power of following one's dreams, offering listeners a masterclass in combining professional success with soulful purpose.

Anne Menke is an internationally acclaimed photographer who masterfully bridges the worlds of high fashion and bohemian travel, bringing her unique vision to editorial work for Vogue, Sports Illustrated, Elle, and numerous other prestigious publications. From shooting couture in the mountains of Peru to capturing beauty contests on Mongolian plains, her work exudes glamour while maintaining authenticity in far-flung locations. Born in Germany, with stints in London, Paris, and New York, Menke has shaped campaigns for major brands including Tommy Hilfiger, Nike, and Ralph Lauren. Her published works include "Our New York" (2001) and "See The World Beautiful" (2012). She now resides in Mexico, where she continues to blend high fashion with cultural storytelling.
In this episode:

(00:00) Introduction to Anne Menke, Early Photography Passion & Cultural Learning
(03:47) Origins: Growing Up in Germany & Early Photography Dreams
(06:38) The Paris Years & Professional Evolution, Breaking Into Vogue & Career Milestones
(15:01) COVID's Impact & Life Lessons on Slowing Down
(22:11) Raising Three Boys in Mexico & Creating the Green School
(35:47) Thoughts on Community & Human Connection
(41:03) The Gift of Present Moment & Travel's Teaching
(47:03) Soul Essence & Living from Within
(48:11) Closing Thoughts on Love & Future Projects
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Anne Menke Website