
Boosting the productivity of data scientists with AI | Bryan Bischof (AI Lead at Hex)
02/12/24 • 62 min
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In this episode of Building With AI, host Haroon Choudery is joined by Bryan Bischof, the AI lead at Hex. Bryan joined the Hex Magic team in 2023, leveraging his insights to improve data science workflows through LLM integrations.
During the conversation, they discuss:
- The Hex way of approaching jobs to be done,
- Why Bryan is over synthetic data,
- Bryan's three-stage recommender system,
- Retrieval techniques that don't work,
- Hex's game-changing metrics for AI performance,
- And much more!
Bonus: Bryan reveals the questions he asks candidates during interviews...and guess what? Hex is currently on the lookout for fresh talent! So keep your 👀 peeled!
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[00:00] Up next:
[00:08] Episode introduction
[00:55] Autoblocks: AI Optimization Platform
[01:48] Bryan’s introduction
[06:47] The Hex way of approaching jobs to be done
[10:34] To blank slate or not to blank slate
[11:32] How Hex prioritizes different pain points
[15:37] Challenges of building Hex: chain reactions, entropy, and latency issues
[19:04] How to build accurate and reliable agents
[22:27] The solution to evals
[26:33] How to build powerful evals
[31:46] Why Bryan is over synthetic data
[35:48] Bryan's three stage recommender system
[44:35] The role of data managers
[46:27] Retrieval techniques that don't work
[47:57] The team behind Hex Magic
[50:04] Hex vs. Jupyter
[51:41] Hex's game-changing metrics for AI performance
[54:39] The nuances of developing AI products
[01:00:40] Hex's future projects
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Building with AI is a weekly podcast featuring conversations with top AI product builders and leaders. Through thoughtful dialogue, host Haroon Choudery (CEO of Autoblocks) uncovers tactical insights that help listeners build & scale world-class AI products.
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Where to find Bryan Bischof:
- Linkedln: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-bischof/
- X: https://twitter.com/BEBischof
- Bryan’s Book: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/building-recommendation-systems/9781492097983
Learn more about Hex:
- Website: https://hex.tech
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hex-technologies/
- X: https://twitter.com/_hex_tech
Learn more about Hex Magic:
- Website: https://hex.tech/product/magic-ai/
Where to find Haroon Choudery:
Learn more about Autoblocks:
In this episode of Building With AI, host Haroon Choudery is joined by Bryan Bischof, the AI lead at Hex. Bryan joined the Hex Magic team in 2023, leveraging his insights to improve data science workflows through LLM integrations.
During the conversation, they discuss:
- The Hex way of approaching jobs to be done,
- Why Bryan is over synthetic data,
- Bryan's three-stage recommender system,
- Retrieval techniques that don't work,
- Hex's game-changing metrics for AI performance,
- And much more!
Bonus: Bryan reveals the questions he asks candidates during interviews...and guess what? Hex is currently on the lookout for fresh talent! So keep your 👀 peeled!
—
[00:00] Up next:
[00:08] Episode introduction
[00:55] Autoblocks: AI Optimization Platform
[01:48] Bryan’s introduction
[06:47] The Hex way of approaching jobs to be done
[10:34] To blank slate or not to blank slate
[11:32] How Hex prioritizes different pain points
[15:37] Challenges of building Hex: chain reactions, entropy, and latency issues
[19:04] How to build accurate and reliable agents
[22:27] The solution to evals
[26:33] How to build powerful evals
[31:46] Why Bryan is over synthetic data
[35:48] Bryan's three stage recommender system
[44:35] The role of data managers
[46:27] Retrieval techniques that don't work
[47:57] The team behind Hex Magic
[50:04] Hex vs. Jupyter
[51:41] Hex's game-changing metrics for AI performance
[54:39] The nuances of developing AI products
[01:00:40] Hex's future projects
—
Brought to you by Autoblocks (https://www.autoblocks.ai/) — how product teams deliver better AI experiences.
—
Building with AI is a weekly podcast featuring conversations with top AI product builders and leaders. Through thoughtful dialogue, host Haroon Choudery (CEO of Autoblocks) uncovers tactical insights that help listeners build & scale world-class AI products.
—
Subscribe to Building With AI:
Where to find Bryan Bischof:
- Linkedln: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-bischof/
- X: https://twitter.com/BEBischof
- Bryan’s Book: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/building-recommendation-systems/9781492097983
Learn more about Hex:
- Website: https://hex.tech
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hex-technologies/
- X: https://twitter.com/_hex_tech
Learn more about Hex Magic:
- Website: https://hex.tech/product/magic-ai/
Where to find Haroon Choudery:
Learn more about Autoblocks:
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In this episode of Building With AI, host Haroon Choudery is joined by Chelsey Tanaka, the Product Lead for AI at Airtable. Chelsey is a seasoned product manager with over 12 years of experience in enterprise SaaS companies across diverse industries like energy, construction, and autonomous vehicles.
During the conversation, they discuss:
- How Airtable integrated AI into their product,
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- Airtable's AI team and initiatives,
- The AI space's moonshot,
- Airtable’s different success metrics for AI features,
- And much more!
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[00:00] Up next:
[00:44] Episode Introduction
[01:32] Autoblocks: AI Optimization Platform
[02:25] Chelsey’s introduction
[04:01] Airtable's journey to where it is today
[06:20] How did Airtable go about integrating AI into their product
[10:28] Large enterprises and the fear of AI adoption
[13:11] How Airtable got enterprises on board with GenAI
[18:35] Prioritizing initiatives: easy solutions to paradigm shifts
[22:28] AI space's moons: the Q&A project
[24:01] The different success metrics for AI features
[25:15] Working with traditional products vs. AI products
[28:58] Unique challenges of working with GenAI products
[33:47] Learning as a way to build great GenAI products
[34:57] Agility: the name of the game
[37:51] The fundamental principles of product development in AI
[40:41] Vision for the future of the low Code/no Code space
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Brought to you by Autoblocks (https://www.autoblocks.ai) — how product teams deliver better AI experiences.
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Building with AI is a weekly podcast featuring conversations with top AI product builders and leaders. Through thoughtful dialogue, host Haroon Choudery (CEO of Autoblocks) uncovers tactical insights that help listeners build & scale world-class AI products.
—
Subscribe to Building With AI:
Where to find Chelsey Tanaka:
Learn more about Airtable:
- Website: https://www.airtable.com/v1
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airtable/
- X: https://twitter.com/airtable
Where to find Haroon Choudery:
Learn more about Autoblocks:
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In this episode of Building With AI, host Haroon Choudery is joined by Otto von Zastrow-Marcks, Founder and CEO of Midpage. Otto's journey from robotics to legal tech was motivated by the challenges lawyers encounter early in their careers. With Midpage, he introduced a generative AI platform designed to assist US lawyers in research and case drafting.
During the conversation, they discuss:
- Why auto-completion is difficult to carry out in legal tech,
- How Midpage turns snippets into arguments,
- Building the right UI/UX,
- The biggest challenge of working with non-deterministic code,
- The future of legal tech,
- And much more!
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[00:00] Up next:
[00:11] Episode introduction
[01:08] Autoblocks: AI Optimization Platform
[02:01] Otto’s introduction
[03:22] Lawns to law: Why this Otto went into legal tech
[04:47] Midpage's Job To Be Done (JTBD)
[05:50] Otto's 'Aha!' moment
[07:01] Why auto-completion is difficult to carry out in legal tech
[08:42] How Midpage turns snippets into arguments
[11:41] Building the right UI/UX
[13:33] The tech stack behind Midpage
[15:43] Midpage's approach for effective retrieval
[19:36] The future of UI
[22:28] How startups can build an edge
[25:21] The biggest challenge of working with non-deterministic code
[27:36] The future of legal tech
[32:05] Otto's hottest AI take
—
Brought to you by Autoblocks (https://www.autoblocks.ai/) — how product teams deliver better AI experiences.
—
Building with AI is a weekly podcast featuring conversations with top AI product builders and leaders. Through thoughtful dialogue, host Haroon Choudery (CEO of Autoblocks) uncovers tactical insights that help listeners build & scale world-class AI products.
—
Subscribe to Building With AI:
Where to find Otto von Zastrow :
- Linkedln: https://www.linkedin.com/in/otto-von-zastrow-marcks-631b74113/
- X: https://twitter.com/OttoZastrow
Learn more about Midpage:
- Website: https://www.midpage.ai
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/midpage/
- X: https://twitter.com/OttoZastrow
Where to find Haroon Choudery:
Learn more about Autoblocks:
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