Earnest Empathy: Dominic Price
05/25/22 • 46 min
As companies around the globe struggle to find a new normal way of working —questions abound: How do we manage people’s desire for flexibility with the imperative to keep colleagues connected? And how do we make sure that we don’t regress to work models that have historically excluded much-needed voices and perspectives?
Perhaps no one thinks more about questions like these than Atlassian’s Work Futurist, Dominic Price. For nearly ten years he’s been leading efforts at the enterprise tech company to create a flexible employee experience based on listening, not speculation. And in his talk with Jesse, Dominic describes ways to embed earnest empathy into your own ways of working. Listen for his advice on how to drive change from within your organization, his reflections on delivering his immensely popular TED talk, and instruction on how to do a Personal Moral Inventory that helps you achieve balance in your life.
(6:46) The foundations of earnest empathy
(11:28) How to build belonging with authentic leadership, not labels
(14:10) Reflections on the journey to becoming a work futurist and accomplished public speaker
(23:54) How to make change happen from inside an organization
(27:54) Exiting the pandemic: hopes and fears
(31:38) The nuance of purpose
(34:45) Using the Personal Moral Inventory as a tool for achieving balance
Guest Bio
Born to Joy in the harsh Manchester Winter of ‘77, Dominic Price has a career that has reached far and wide through Europe, US and Asia PAC. An accomplished TED speaker, Dom is proud to work at Atlassian, the home of the most intelligent t-shirt wearers in business. As the resident Work Futurist. Dom is Atlassian’s in-house “Team Doctor” helping Atlassian scale by being ruthlessly efficient and effective, and spends over half his time helping our customers navigate transformation, agility, leadership, and the future of work.
Dom has a deep passion for elite human performance, highly effective distributed teams, and building thriving businesses. He has previously been the GM Program Management for a global gaming company and a Director of Deloitte.
Helpful Links
Dom on TEDxSydney: What’s your happiness score? *viewed over 1.7m times
Dom Writes: Why you should swap resolutions for a Personal Moral Inventory
Also, might be time to spring clean your work habits
Thoughts on The Future of Work
As companies around the globe struggle to find a new normal way of working —questions abound: How do we manage people’s desire for flexibility with the imperative to keep colleagues connected? And how do we make sure that we don’t regress to work models that have historically excluded much-needed voices and perspectives?
Perhaps no one thinks more about questions like these than Atlassian’s Work Futurist, Dominic Price. For nearly ten years he’s been leading efforts at the enterprise tech company to create a flexible employee experience based on listening, not speculation. And in his talk with Jesse, Dominic describes ways to embed earnest empathy into your own ways of working. Listen for his advice on how to drive change from within your organization, his reflections on delivering his immensely popular TED talk, and instruction on how to do a Personal Moral Inventory that helps you achieve balance in your life.
(6:46) The foundations of earnest empathy
(11:28) How to build belonging with authentic leadership, not labels
(14:10) Reflections on the journey to becoming a work futurist and accomplished public speaker
(23:54) How to make change happen from inside an organization
(27:54) Exiting the pandemic: hopes and fears
(31:38) The nuance of purpose
(34:45) Using the Personal Moral Inventory as a tool for achieving balance
Guest Bio
Born to Joy in the harsh Manchester Winter of ‘77, Dominic Price has a career that has reached far and wide through Europe, US and Asia PAC. An accomplished TED speaker, Dom is proud to work at Atlassian, the home of the most intelligent t-shirt wearers in business. As the resident Work Futurist. Dom is Atlassian’s in-house “Team Doctor” helping Atlassian scale by being ruthlessly efficient and effective, and spends over half his time helping our customers navigate transformation, agility, leadership, and the future of work.
Dom has a deep passion for elite human performance, highly effective distributed teams, and building thriving businesses. He has previously been the GM Program Management for a global gaming company and a Director of Deloitte.
Helpful Links
Dom on TEDxSydney: What’s your happiness score? *viewed over 1.7m times
Dom Writes: Why you should swap resolutions for a Personal Moral Inventory
Also, might be time to spring clean your work habits
Thoughts on The Future of Work
Previous Episode
Pursuing our Potential: David Meltzer
David Meltzer believes that mistakes ‘promote and protect us’. It’s a hard-earned belief—his own story substantiates the idea that with the right mindset, no setback is permanent.
In his talk with Jesse, David describes his journey from humble beginnings in Ohio to becoming wildly successful and rubbing shoulders with sports legends as the CEO of Leigh Steinberg Sports. He also describes the undoing of that success—a downfall he recounts with inspiring vulnerability. He identifies the people, moments, and insights that helped him build back to a joyful life. Throughout the conversation, he shares profound ideas for how to become a fast learner, develop more empathy, find hidden reserves of gratitude, and reach your ultimate potential. And he and Jesse share a memory of an Ohio sports memory that any NBA fan will know well.
(4:21) The power of ‘starting today’ when addressing big problems
(8:17) David as a ten-year old: disadvantaged but ambitious
(10:02) Landing a lucrative job with Leigh Steinberg Sports
(11:35) Experiencing the compounding effect of bad behavior
(17:04) How telling the truth illuminated a path forward
(18:11) Advice for building a brand—the importance of frequency
Guest Bio
David Meltzer is the Co-Founder of Sports 1 Marketing and formerly served as CEO of the renowned Leigh (“Lee”) Steinberg Sports & Entertainment agency, which was the inspiration for the movie Jerry Maguire. David has been recognized by Variety Magazine as their Sports Humanitarian of the Year and awarded the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. He is also the Executive Producer of the Bloomberg and Apple TV series 2 Minute Drill and Office Hours.
His life’s mission is to empower OVER 1 BILLION people to be happy! This simple yet powerful mission has led him on an incredible journey to provide one thing...VALUE. As part of that mission, for the past 20 years, he’s been providing free weekly trainings to empower others to empower others to be happy.
Helpful Links
David’s website
Watch Season 1 of Office Hours
Next Episode
A Writer's Mind: Daniel Pink
On this episode of the Breakthrough Builders Podcast, Jesse is joined by the writer Daniel H. Pink. Dan and Jesse have a far-reaching conversation that touches upon:
- The formative role of reading in Dan’s childhood, and the importance and randomness of having access to great libraries as a son of the State of Ohio (4:33)
- How Dan becomes so enthralled with a subject that he chooses to write a book on it (which he’s now done 7 times!) (6:35)
- The high regard in which Dan holds the structure of a book, and the high bar he sets for himself in continually revising his initial structural hypotheses as he writes (8:53)
- How Dan developed a writing style that’s intellectually coherent and wonderfully accessible (11:01)
- The importance of cross-disciplinary thinking in today’s world (14:08)
- How Dan asks the right questions in his research to obtain valuable and insightful responses (15:50)
- The importance of constantly pushing to get feedback from people who have “taste and judgment” – and who will also be radically candid with their feedback (18:06)
- The “wide diet” of reading that Dan recommends if one is interested in growing and improving as a writer (20:07)
- Reflections on the applicability of the theses of three of his books – A Whole New Mind (2005), Drive (2009), and The Power of Regret (2022) – to our world today (21:28)
- The distinction and relationship between “Big P” and “Little P” Purpose in our lives, and how Dan sees “Thinking as a form of Doing and Doing as a form of Thinking” (25:34)
- Regret as a specific case of the more general case of the need to embrace paradox in our lives (27:59)
Dan and Jesse also discuss Dan’s favorite Ohio sports memory, the authors he admires most, what he sees as his biggest professional breakthrough (hint: it’s not what you think), and his view on who really won the Toledo War.
Guest Bio
Daniel H. Pink is the author of five New York Times bestsellers, including his latest, The Power of Regret: How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward. His other books include the New York Times bestsellers When and A Whole New Mind — as well as the #1 New York Times bestsellers Drive and To Sell is Human. Dan’s books have won multiple awards, have been translated into 42 languages, and have sold millions of copies around the world. He lives in Washington, DC, with his family.
Helpful Links
Dan’s official website and Twitter
TED Talk “The Puzzle of Motivation,” viewed over 28 million times
Dan on the Armchair Expert podcast with Dax Sheppard and Monica Padman - March 2022
Dan speaking about the 4 kinds of regret and what they teach us about ourselves (in light of his worldwide study on regret and his latest book)
The Worldwide Regret Study, insights from which formed the foundation of Dan’s latest book
The Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, which came up no fewer than three times in 30 minutes in Dan’s conversation with Jesse
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