
Breaking BizDev
John Tyreman & Mark Wainwright
What does "business development" mean, anyways?
On Breaking BizDev, John Tyreman and Mark Wainwright break down, beat up, and redefine that nebulous term 'business development' for the modern professional services firm.
Subscribe to this podcast to get sales and marketing advice that you can actually put into practice right away. Whether you're an expert doer-seller, firm owner, or a dedicated sales/marketing pro, each episode will help you understand your buyers and win new business.
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Good & Bad Selling (and Buying) in Professional Services
Breaking BizDev
10/09/23 • 28 min
We all know there are good and bad salespeople. We get inundated with the flood of "pitch slaps" on LinkedIn, cold email clogging up our inbox, and sales reps who can't quite seem to understand your challenges. Which begs the question, do "good salespeople" even exist?
On this episode, John interviews Mark about his perspective on bad and good selling in professional services, and how that meshes with different kinds of buyers.
Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
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What is Breaking BizDev?
Breaking BizDev
10/04/23 • 16 min
Professional services firms lump marketing and sales together into one bucket. It gets confusing. Sometimes, it’s a total mess. They call it “business development.”
In this episode, John Tyreman and Mark Wainwright introduce the Breaking BizDev podcast and explain how they're going to break down, beat up, and redefine "business development" for the professional services firms of tomorrow.
www.breakingbizdev.com
Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
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4 Things You Forgot To Do In Q4
Breaking BizDev
01/06/25 • 31 min
It’s 2025... now what?
Well, if you don’t know how your sales and marketing strategy will contribute to revenue in the upcoming year, John and Mark reveal the top four activities you might have overlooked as the year came to a close:
- Talk to your clients
- Optimize your client portfolio
- Update service packaging and pricing
- Create a talent management & development plan
Improve your sales and marketing game this year.
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Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
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Good & Bad Marketing in Professional Services
Breaking BizDev
10/09/23 • 21 min
In this episode, Mark interviews John about what poor marketing looks like in professional services firms, including:
- Lack of plan or lack of patience
- Poor customer experience
- Messaging is too company-centric
- Brand is based on assumptions
- Lack of a content strategy
Listen to hear what not to do, and how firms can turn these blind spots into areas of relative strength.
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Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
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Checking in, Ghosting, and the Magic Email
Breaking BizDev
11/06/23 • 32 min
On this episode, John and Mark call out every single person who, in the name of “BD”, has sent a useless “I’m just checking in” email that produced zero results. We'll break down:
- Why "checking in" is bullsh*t
- The hamster wheel of ghosting (and why it happens)
- The role of the magic email
After listening to this episode, you'll have a new tool in your toolkit to get your pipeline moving.
Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
www.breakingbizdev.com

The Client Success Story
Breaking BizDev
12/18/23 • 28 min
The client success story can go by many names; case story, case study, use-case, past performance, the list goes on... But how should it be structured? When can it be used? How can it be used for marketing? For sales? In this episode, John and Mark break down the client success story in professional services—what it is, how it’s used, and mistakes to avoid.
The Client Success Story Framework:
- The client's situation
- The client's problem or need
- The solution you provided
- The client's results
Read more from Mark on the client success story here:
https://www.wainwrightinsight.com/client-success-story/
Using the PASTOR framework for the client success story in marketing:
P - label the client's problem
A - amplify the problem
S - show the solution
T - bring in a client testimonial
O - offer a way to connect (contact us, book a demo, request an audit)
R - promptly respond to offer requests
Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
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Part 2. Choreograph Your Sales Activities
Breaking BizDev
09/05/24 • 49 min
Make your sales process look effortless and feel frictionless.
In Part 2 of their deep dive into the "Create, Choreograph, Contract" framework, Mark and John explore the importance of deliberate and structured interactions with buyers, like how mirroring and reflecting can establish trust, and how seeking permission at each step ensures both parties are aligned. In this conversation, you'll learn:
- The four essential stages of the sales process: qualification, discovery, recommendations, and negotiation, each with tailored strategies for success.
- The power of mirroring and reflecting through body language, words, and posture to create a comfortable rapport.
- How to use tactical empathy tools to foster open and vulnerable dialogue.
- The importance of synchronous conversations for avoiding misinterpretation and ensuring clarity.
- Techniques for managing negotiations through conversation, addressing red lines and understanding the reasons behind edits.
References:
- Understanding the Trust Equation, Charles H. Green
- Never Split the Difference, Chris Voss
- Permission Marketing, Seth Godin
Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
www.breakingbizdev.com

Succession Planning: What's the Role of Sales and Marketing?
Breaking BizDev
09/30/24 • 25 min
Leadership transition is a major brand milestone and a cultural crossroads.
So what role does sales and marketing play?
In this episode, John and Mark explore how sales and marketing both support succession planning and leadership transition. In this conversation, you'll learn:
- Why it's important to expose young team members to sales and marketing early in their careers
- How practice, failure, and learning play a pivotal role in developing the next generation's sales acumen and business skills.
- The impact of a firm’s marketing and branding strategy during leadership transitions
- Techniques for democratizing expertise within the firm to reduce over-reliance on individual leaders and shield the organization from turnover risks.
- The significance of systematizing the business development process
Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
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10/28/24 • 33 min
Coffee isn’t just for closers.
Buyers can smell your commission breath.
Good salespeople don’t have all the answers.
In this episode, John and Mark bring on voices from other sales and marketing experts in the professional services realm. Featuring clips from Blair Enns, David C. Baker, Jason Mlicki and Jeff McKay, this episode explores the importance of mindset in developing new business:
- The significance of habit-building and mastery of both marketing and sales
- Why it’s important to maintain a low self orientation and avoid selfishness
- The pitfalls of relying on RFPs and the benefits of a proactive strategy
- How to avoid slipping into a salesperson ‘alter ego’
- The impact of sleazy sales tactics on client relationships
Win Without Pitching: https://www.winwithoutpitching.com/
Punctuation: https://punctuation.com/
Rattleback: https://www.rattleback.com/
Prudent Pedal: https://www.prudentpedal.com/
Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
www.breakingbizdev.com

08/05/24 • 22 min
Understand your buyers. Win more business.
That's what an Ideal Client Profile (ICP) helps you do.
In today's episode, John and Mark explore why understanding your ideal client profile is essential for aligning your sales and marketing efforts, and offer examples of how to apply your ideal client profile (ICP) in business development activities.
On this episode, we'll explore:
00:00 What is an ideal client profile?
04:57 The four quadrants of an ICP
08:20 Sources of primary data
12:18 Different ICPs for various company roles
14:26 Using ICP to qualify leads and opportunities
15:40 Email segmentation based on ICP.
16:47 Use ICP to refine service offerings.
Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/
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How many episodes does Breaking BizDev have?
Breaking BizDev currently has 45 episodes available.
What topics does Breaking BizDev cover?
The podcast is about Marketing, Podcasts, Business Development, Sales and Business.
What is the most popular episode on Breaking BizDev?
The episode title 'Good & Bad Selling (and Buying) in Professional Services' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Breaking BizDev?
The average episode length on Breaking BizDev is 32 minutes.
How often are episodes of Breaking BizDev released?
Episodes of Breaking BizDev are typically released every 14 days.
When was the first episode of Breaking BizDev?
The first episode of Breaking BizDev was released on Oct 4, 2023.
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