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Debbie’s 90-year-old Dad Talks About the Most Extraordinary Election of His Lifetime
11/05/20 • 17 min
Debbie Weil brings Frank Weil, her almost 90-year-old father, back on the podcast to give us his perspective on the 2020 presidential election, even as votes are still being counted. Her Dad is a prolific blogger at FAWideas.com, where he regularly offers his thoughts on Democratic politics, including cogent tirades about you-know-who, whom he regards as incompetent, amoral, and dangerous.
So who else to make better sense of this nail-biting week than her Dad?
He lives in Washington DC with her mother, Denie Weil; they’ve been married almost 70 years. In the late 1970s, Frank was an Assistant Secretary in the Dept. of Commerce under Jimmy Carter. In the decades since, as well as before, he has been deeply involved in Democratic politics. He’s been an informal advisor to Presidential candidates, including Barack Obama. And he always has an opinion. Plenty of them.
They recorded the conversation you’re about to hear in the early afternoon of November 4th. The frustration of the previous night was starting to give way to patience as key swing states and counties continued to count votes. At the time they recorded, there was general agreement that Joe Biden would prevail, narrowly, and become the 46th President of the U.S.
Frank says this is the most extraordinary election of his lifetime, both in terms of nail-biting outcome but also in view of the massive turnout and unusual process of early voting and mail-in ballots.
He tells us that his frustration of the past weeks and months has turned into “inspiration” as he ponders the fact that a divided government might be a good thing, because it will force Washington to compromise and therefore better represent the people. He and Debbie take a brief walk down memory lane for some of the most memorable elections of his lifetime, the first being FDR’s unprecedented third election in 1940 with Henry Wallace as his running mate, when Frank was nine years old. When Debbie was nine, she remembers waking up with excitement the morning after Kennedy was elected in 1960.
There are a few things Debbie and Frank didn’t get around to specifically discussing, including the record turnout, the highest in a century. And they didn’t have enough time to go deeply into examining the divide in this country, between rural and urban, educated and less educated, and the belief in astonishingly opposing narratives.
You can’t help but sense this man's optimism, despite this difficult year and despite the real difficulties that lie ahead as we try to unite a deeply divided nation. He lets us go with a word of wisdom on the importance of collaboration even with those you don’t agree with.
Mentioned in this episode or useful:
- Frank’s blog: https://fawideas.com
- Frank Weil's bio
- Let Me Be Frank: From a Silver Spoon to the Knives and Forks in the Road of My Life (FAW’s autobiography)
- The Result Will Not Be Too Different From Expectations (his blog post on Nov. 4, 2020)
- Frank's appearance on Episode 1 of the podcast
- Why counting the votes takes so long: Here's what happens after polls close in a US presidential election (Pew Research Center, October 22, 2020)
- Memorable Elections (History.com, August 10, 2020)
- Truman vs Dewey: The 1948 United States presidential election
- The most famous election headline in U.S. history: Dewey Defeats Truman
- Nixon vs. Kennedy: The 1960 United States presidential election
- Henry A. Wallace, the 33rd Vice President of the USA
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Debbie Weil brings Frank Weil, her almost 90-year-old father, back on the podcast to give us his perspective on the 2020 presidential election, even as votes are still being counted. Her Dad is a prolific blogger at FAWideas.com, where he regularly offers his thoughts on Democratic politics, including cogent tirades about you-know-who, whom he regards as incompetent, amoral, and dangerous.
So who else to make better sense of this nail-biting week than her Dad?
He lives in Washington DC with her mother, Denie Weil; they’ve been married almost 70 years. In the late 1970s, Frank was an Assistant Secretary in the Dept. of Commerce under Jimmy Carter. In the decades since, as well as before, he has been deeply involved in Democratic politics. He’s been an informal advisor to Presidential candidates, including Barack Obama. And he always has an opinion. Plenty of them.
They recorded the conversation you’re about to hear in the early afternoon of November 4th. The frustration of the previous night was starting to give way to patience as key swing states and counties continued to count votes. At the time they recorded, there was general agreement that Joe Biden would prevail, narrowly, and become the 46th President of the U.S.
Frank says this is the most extraordinary election of his lifetime, both in terms of nail-biting outcome but also in view of the massive turnout and unusual process of early voting and mail-in ballots.
He tells us that his frustration of the past weeks and months has turned into “inspiration” as he ponders the fact that a divided government might be a good thing, because it will force Washington to compromise and therefore better represent the people. He and Debbie take a brief walk down memory lane for some of the most memorable elections of his lifetime, the first being FDR’s unprecedented third election in 1940 with Henry Wallace as his running mate, when Frank was nine years old. When Debbie was nine, she remembers waking up with excitement the morning after Kennedy was elected in 1960.
There are a few things Debbie and Frank didn’t get around to specifically discussing, including the record turnout, the highest in a century. And they didn’t have enough time to go deeply into examining the divide in this country, between rural and urban, educated and less educated, and the belief in astonishingly opposing narratives.
You can’t help but sense this man's optimism, despite this difficult year and despite the real difficulties that lie ahead as we try to unite a deeply divided nation. He lets us go with a word of wisdom on the importance of collaboration even with those you don’t agree with.
Mentioned in this episode or useful:
- Frank’s blog: https://fawideas.com
- Frank Weil's bio
- Let Me Be Frank: From a Silver Spoon to the Knives and Forks in the Road of My Life (FAW’s autobiography)
- The Result Will Not Be Too Different From Expectations (his blog post on Nov. 4, 2020)
- Frank's appearance on Episode 1 of the podcast
- Why counting the votes takes so long: Here's what happens after polls close in a US presidential election (Pew Research Center, October 22, 2020)
- Memorable Elections (History.com, August 10, 2020)
- Truman vs Dewey: The 1948 United States presidential election
- The most famous election headline in U.S. history: Dewey Defeats Truman
- Nixon vs. Kennedy: The 1960 United States presidential election
- Henry A. Wallace, the 33rd Vice President of the USA
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Kathleen Billings on Steering a Small Town in Maine Through COVID and a Tense Election Year
In this episode, Debbie talks to Kathleen Billings, town manager of Stonington, Maine, the small coastal village on Deer Isle that she and her husband now call home.
Debbie wanted to talk to a local leader about the challenges of this election and pandemic year and Kathleen was the perfect person. She is matter of fact, deeply knowledgeable, and forthright.
Kathleen, 56, has been Stonington’s Town Manager for almost 20 years. She tells us how the town’s twin industries of fishing and tourism have fared and how she began to prepare for COVID back in February. She and Debbie talk about the friction between People From Away (PFA) and locals and how it was exacerbated by COVID.
They also talk about the political tensions that Kathleen has had to face this year and how she‘s handled them. On a side note Kathleen talks about the very real issue of rising sea levels and how the town is addressing that.
They end by reflecting on the year 2020 and how Kathleen has focused on maintaining a positive atmosphere so that everyone can get through this time without being "ground under," as she puts it. She expresses gratitude for the many nonprofits on the island that address community needs.
PHOTO CREDIT: Debbie Weil
Mentioned in this episode or useful:
- Town of Stonington, ME
- Town of Deer Isle, ME
- Hancock County, ME
- Manager embraces town's waterfront way of life (Ellsworth American, July 17, 2019)
- Maine's attitude towards outsiders ignites fears during pandemic (Bangor Daily News, April 13, 2020 )
- Stonington's little houses removed after one is vandalized (Island AdVantages, July 30, 2020)
- Maine's Coastal Vulnerability to Sea-level Rise (University of Maine)
- Obit for Kathleen's legendary uncle, Neville Hardy
- Island Women Speak and the podcast episode
- Frank Weil's blog on liberal politics
Some of the local groups on Deer Isle that work together:
- Healthy Island Project (HIP)
- Salt Air Seniors run by Barrett Gray
- Opera House Arts
- Stonington Library
- Island Ad-Vantages (the local newspaper)
- Deer Isle-Stonington High School
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Daphne Merkin on Living Through the Pandemic With Serious Clinical Depression
Debbie Weil talks with Daphne Merkin, a highly acclaimed novelist, essayist and literary critic. She is known for writing boldly, without shame or modesty, about depression, obsession, money, sex, family, and religion. Her 2017 memoir, This Close to Happy: A Reckoning With Depression, which was 16 years in the making, got a front page review in The New York Times by Andrew Solomon, another acclaimed author on the topic of depression.
Daphne's latest novel, 22 Minutes of Unconditional Love, is a powerful story about sex and obsession. And underlying those twin themes, the theme of depression. Today she and Debbie talk not about her books, per se, but about her experience with clinical depression and what that can teach us in this difficult year of COVID when many of us are experiencing deep uncertainty and anxiety. It's a topic of personal interest to Debbie who is an occasional sufferer of clinical depression. Depression is the story behind the story, if you will, of much of Daphne’s writing.
Debbie and Daphne explore why real depression - sometimes called endogenous depression - is not talked about, why it is so misunderstood, and why it’s something that NEEDS to be talked about. They talk about how her creativity as a writer, cooped up in her apartment in New York City, has been affected the past few months. They talk about the pros and cons of doing therapy via Zoom. And they talk briefly about Psilocybin and the new psychedelic-assisted therapies for depression.
Daphne ends the conversation with some poignant thoughts on what the depths of depression are like and how society has a long way to go to better address depression, as well as thoughts of suicide. This is a powerful conversation with a brilliant author. Be sure to explore the links to Daphne's writing below.
Mentioned in this episode or useful:
- Daphne Merkin bio
- This Close to Happy: A Reckoning With Depression (Picador 2018)
- 22 Minutes of Unconditional Love (July 2020)
- Re-issue of her 1987 novel Enchantment (Picador, July 2020)
- Other writing and reviews
- Daphne Merkin's review of new Sylvia Plath biography: Shifting the Focus From Sylvia Plath's Tragic Death to Her Brilliant Life (New York Times, Oct. 22, 2020)
- Depression and isolation during a pandemic by Daniel W. Drezner (Washington Post, Oct. 29, 2020)
- New York Institute for the Humanities
- Freud’s wife, Martha Bernays
- How To Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence by Michael Pollan
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