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Beyond the Mop

Mark Lineberry

Beyond The Mop is for the cleaning business owner who wants that edge. This is an 8-episode series on all the things you need to know on how to take your cleaning business to that next level and is delivered in bite-sized chunks you can listen to in your car or while cleaning.

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You've seen some success. You've probably received some inquiries on purchasing your cleaning business. What's next? Well, begin with the end in mind.
Habit Two from 7 Habits of Highly Effective People is "Begin With The End In Mind". My greatest mistake was not planning for the sale of the company when I purchased the company. I just bought it. Why would I want to sell it? But you need to plan for that to put the steps into place to when you do sell, it's sellable.
There are a few things you can do to increase the perceived value of your cleaning company:
1) Buyers want to see Monthly Recurring Revenue (MRR). They want to know that there will be consistent money next month and the month after and 3 years down the road too. If you have 1X contracts, that'll do a disservice to the buyer and could leave you less valuable.
2) Make sure none of your clients control more than 15% of revenue. If 1 client were at 50%, for example, that'll impact the buying decision of the buyer because if that one client leaves, then the business would be worth half as much.
3) The new buyer wants to know they can step into the business without needing to work in it. Buyers typically buy to have passive income as a business owner. They don't want to buy and have to scrub toilets each night.
4) Buyers want to see long-lasting client relationships. If all of your clients came on last month, then the odds of some of all fleeing are higher than ones that have been with the seller for a decade.
5) Buyers want to see systems and processes in place. They want to know that they can slide into their new role without reinventing the wheel. They want stability.
When preparing for a sale, make sure your numbers are clear and concise. Back them up with an internal audit. Begin to have convos with M&A experts. And lastly, hire a broker.
I definitely don't profess to know how to value companies. But if you're looking for numbers, there are a couple of different sources if you're not ready to hire a broker.
1) Look at comps. You can go to BizBuySell. It's definitely not reliable, so take it with a grain of salt.
2) I found one source on the web that says to take 45-50% of annual sales. Another said 2X of net profit. I can't see how these are too reliable when considering other factors and time.
3) CleanLink suggested creating an average business value of 70% of annual revenue, 80% of net sales, and 450% of net income (plus inventory), and then averaging the three together.
4) Another said consider using EBITDA (earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization), and using a multiple (enterprise value) of 1-6X of EBITDA to calculate a price. This latter method is more common in acquisitions. The 1-6X is a range based on factors listed above (e.g. size, client relationships, employee relationships, etc.).
In any case, it's a rough idea. Definitely talk to a professional for better guidance.
Hey, I appreciate each and every one of you. Thanks for listening.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Dr. Stephen Covey
My Business on Purpose - business coaching
BizBuySell (again, not fully reliable)
CleanLink article on selling
Universal Janitorial Services, Inc - We've been serving the DC region through janitorial, porter, specialty floor work, and disinfecting for the last 44 years. In fact, our first client 44 years ago we still have today. Our clientele include schools, churches, banks, country clubs, Class A office buildings, government, medical, and so many more.

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04/20/22 • 21 min

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04/13/22 • 14 min

Have you ever wished your clients would stick around for 1 year, 5 years, or even 10 years? What would it look like to have clients remain with you for 20 or even 40 years? In this episode, we talk about turning your clients into superfans.
A) Your goal should be to offer value so strong, it hurts your prospects or clients to turn you down. There are several things you can do:

  1. Refer business to them before they do business with you. When we do our walkthroughs, I'm trying to figure out how I can make them money (e.g. who can I refer to them for their business revenue) or what resources I can provide for them before they even do business with us.
  2. Open up your entire network. Maybe you see a need that you can fulfill. On the cleaning level, if I see they're purchasing toilet paper, paper towels, etc. from box stores I'll tell them they can probably save 50% by purchasing from a local supplier. Or as it applies to their business, I'll ask open-ended questions in our walkthrough and I'll dive into a pain point if revealed. If I can solve that pain point through my network, I'll make a referral.
  3. Offer a loss leader. We'll offer free services in exchange for a sign contract, like a free deep clean, specialty floor work, etc. Or if they have multiple locations, I'll offer to clean the first at a reduced price and then charge our rate for the remaining. Only do this if you can get a profit on the backend.
  4. Provide extra value that others don't provide. In this episode I talk about a school client with junk along their property. I paid 1-800-GOT-JUNK to come out and remove it for them, for free, in exchange for a signed contract. Pain point resolved and new client won.
  5. Do a strategic alliance. Sit down with a client or prospect you like, know, and trust, and exchange leads, resources, help, etc. It'll strengthen that bond.

B) Show up to their location and/or call and do a joint walkthrough. It's our goal to do a walkthrough frequently within each location.
C) Treat your client's staff well. Send gift baskets. Or even do something as simple as dropping off bags of candy.
D) Send a quick 1 minute video to update your service, to tell them you appreciate them, etc. I referenced Goat Milk Stuff and their video campaign when you order with them. Super personal and each video is tailored to the order. They use Bonjoro, but you could use something as simple as your phone and your email.
E) Offer to test new equipment or a new service on them, for free. We'll use our clients as a test run on new offerings, solicit their input, and use their testimonial on future projects.
F) Always reach out to your clients before they reach out to you.
G) Get you clients involved in a community project.
Resouces mentioned in this episode:
Superfans by Pat Flynn
My Clean Pivot - I offer tailored, trained coaching in a one-on-one setting through Zoom whereby we'll cover together topics important to you and your business. Let's face it: it's difficult to go at this alone. So if you feel frustrated or you're stuck on a plateau, let My Clean Pivot help get you over that hurdle. For more info, check out www.mycleanpivot.com.
This is episode 7 of 8 planned. If you have any questions you'd like to ask and have answered over the podcast, go to www.speakpipe.com/beyondthemop. If we have enough questions, we'll do a bonus episode at the end.

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04/13/22 • 14 min

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Do you feel stuck in finding new prospects? Are you wanting to know other ways to pull in cleaning leads aside from Bark, Angi List, Yelp, Thumbtack, and others? Definitely check out this episode.
Always keep your pipeline open. You always need that influx of potential clients. Without prospects in your pipeline, you're out of business.
Each prospect needs a touch point. A touch point is something they see or experience through your business that gets them to know you and your brand. These include the basics like phone calls, emails, mail, door-to-door, ads, and more.
Jeb Blount wrote Fanatical Prospecting. He says this...

  • It takes 1-3 touch points to reengage an inactive customer.
  • It takes 1-5 touch points to engage a prospect who is in the buying window and knows you and your brand.
  • It takes 3-10 touch points if they're highly familiar with your brand and are not in the buying window.
  • It takes 5-12 touch points to engage a warm inbound lead.
  • It takes 5-20 touch points to engage a prospect that has soe familiarity of you and your brand.
  • It takes 20-25 touch points to engage a cold prospect who doesn't know you and your brand.

The more you reach out, the more likely they'll ask for a walkthrough and/or proposal.

Below is a link to the list:
60 Ways You Can Market and Advertise Your Cleaning Business
Other resources:
Fanatical Prospecting by Jeb Blount
Apogee Mastermind application. Napoleon Hill defined the mastermind principle as "two or more minds working actively together in perfect harmony toward a common definite object." At Apogee, we meet in small groups each week to act as a peer group or a board of advisors to help both you and your business grow. We pool together resources and help each other through challenges, pitfalls, and wins. We're also planning on a live meetup in the near future, all included in the price of membership. I've been masterminding for years now and it's certainly changed my business for the better.
I teamed up with SpeakPipe. If you have any questions and would like to be featured on the show, go to https://www.speakpipe.com/BeyondTheMop and click "Start Recording". Record up to a 90-second question and you'll be featured on the podcast along with the answer(s) to your question(s). I'll put all of these together and will release them at a later date.

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04/10/22 • 22 min

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04/07/22 • 21 min

Have you had challenges in hiring during "The Great Resignation"? Has this had a negative impact on your cleaning business?
Fast Company Magazine says two-thirds left due to a lack of engagement and a lack of overall well-being. HRM cites that it costs $4129/employee on average to train and hire them.
Hire before you need to hire.
Our job ad sources are mentioned below, along with others like FB, LinkedIn, local FB community groups, your own website, and even local colleges.
What goes in our ad?
1) Write based on emotion. Figure out your ideal employee.
2) Focus on a winning headline
3) Your first paragraph should have a company summary.
4) Talk about what the applicant will gain through their experience working with you.
5) Describe your company's benefits (e.g. "Enjoy holiday weekends with 6 paid holidays per year").
6) Cover the requirements in 4 areas: experience, education, skill, and personal characteristics.
7) Place a clear Call to Action (CTA). What do you want them to do next?
Hire before you need to hire. Place ads before you need to. Continuously collect applications and follow up regularly. We have no less than 50 qualified candidates at the ready at any given time. If someone quits tomorrow, we am ready.
Lastly, interview. We do a 3-step interview: a) 5 minutes to prequalify them, b) a 10-20 minute interview going over details, and c) a 3rd interview to tie up loose ends and to make an offer.
Resources mentioned:
Canva.com
Question Behind The Question, by John G Miller
Fast Company - on well-being and engagement
Human Resource Management - $4129 to hire on average
Indeed.com
Ziprecruiter
Craigslist
Google For Jobs
PostJobFree
Mike Michalowicz's Job Ad from Clockwork
Universal Janitorial Services, Inc. has been serving the DC area for the last 44 years by providing janitorial, porter, disinfecting, and specialty floor work for schools, places of worship, office buildings, banks, and so many more. We utilize a 3-step quality control process to make sure your facility is clean, thereby improving your productivity and your ROI. Give us a call at 703-385-1232 today.
I teamed up with SpeakPipe. If you have any questions and would like to be featured on the show, go to https://www.speakpipe.com/BeyondTheMop and click "Start Recording". Record up to a 90-second question and you'll be featured on the podcast along with the answer(s) to your question(s). I'll put all of these together and will release them at a later date.

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04/06/22 • 4 min

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Thanks for being a part of Beyond The Mop. You're an integral part of the show. Thanks for listening!
I teamed up with SpeakPipe. If you have any questions and would like to be featured on the show, go to https://www.speakpipe.com/BeyondTheMop and click "Start Recording". Record up to a 90-second question and you'll be featured on the podcast along with the answer(s) to your question(s). I'll put all of these together and will release them at a later date.
You all are awesome!

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04/06/22 • 4 min

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What do Cleaning Proposals look like? What is a proposal and why should you do one? In this episode, I dive into proposals, why we do them, and how you can use them to increase your perceived value to make more money.

At Universal Janitorial Services, we view proposals as a sales document. It’s meant to continue to sell to the prospect long after you do the walkthrough.
There's no right or wrong answer on proposal formats. Long, short, web-based, or even a PDF, there are many ways you can create a proposal. There's no right or wrong answer provided you're addressing your prospect's needs and winning new business.
Universal Janitorial Services includes the following into our proposals:
1) Cover page (incld our biz name, address, the prospect's name and address, both of our logos, contract period, proposal version number (in case we have multiple revised copies), expiration date, and a mention of services provided, like "Janitorial Service proposal for...").
2) Cover sales letter (brief intro and we cover 3-4 unique selling propositions).
3) Our brochure converted into letter-size paper
4) If over 20 pages, we included a table of contents.
5) Services offered company-wide and our mission statement
6) An info page with our affiliations, certifications, contact info, and executive summary.
7) 3-6 pages of solutions for them (staffing solutions, employee selection process, background checks, uniforms, green cleaning, insurances, supplies, training program, quality control program, org chart, employee benefits, safety program, and pandemic response).
8) Client reference page filled with logos of recognizable clients and the services we provide for them.
9) References filled with 2-4 examples with contact info, pictures, and client profile, and what we do to help them.
10) White paper doc with a client success story and testimonial.
11) Cleaning Specs (SOW)
12) Pricing summary
13) Contract
We put these proposals together with Microsoft Word and format over to an Adobe PDF. We send that PDF as an email attachment with a cover.
There are software you can consider, like Route, CleanGuru, CleanlyRun, Clean Proposals, Houscall Pro, ServiceTitan, Responsibid, Pandadoc, and Proposify.
Looking for proposal examples? Check out:
1) Google - simple searches like "Cleaning proposal", "Janitorial Contract" or "Janitorial PDF" can supply you with several examples.
2) Pinterest
3) RFPs - Many requests for proposals clearly spell out what that client wants to be included in pricing. Google "janitorial RFP" and I bet you'll find a few.
4) Software - Software like PandaDoc and Proposify do include free janitorial proposal templates. You can sign up for free and download these copies.
Resources Mentioned:
Google Maps
Google Earth
Route
CleanGuru
CleanlyRun
Clean Proposals
Housecall Pro
ServiceTitan
Responsibid
PandaDoc
Proposify
This episode is sponsored by MyCleanPivot janitorial coaching. You're wearing 17 hats in your business and most of them probably don't even fit. You're juggling too much and stepping on too many mines in the minefield in your business journey. Hiring the right coach is a critical piece of success. Don't go at it alone. Click the link to MyCleanPivot and schedule your free one-on-one coaching session.

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04/05/22 • 20 min

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04/03/22 • 32 min

How do you price a cleaning proposal, and why is it so important?
In this episode, I dive into how our company, Universal Janitorial Services, prices our recurring clients.
People don't buy based on price; they buy based on perceived value. I give the example of the Chevy Spark vs. the Ford F-150. The Spark is the least expensive new car sold in 2021. The Ford-150 series starts at double the price and sold the most. If people buy based on price, they would have purchased the Spark and not the Ford F-150. They bought the Ford based on perceived value, based on whatever that is for them (utility, leg room, safety, etc.).
There are different ways to price: $$$/sqft, $$$/hour, by the job, and by a monthly or annual rate. Pricing on square feet or hourly can be problematic.
Our pricing strategy is to lose 80% of our bids due to price. We don't want to win them all. Why? If we win them all, it means our price is too low. If we only win 2 out of every 10, then it means that those two are very profitable.
There is no RIGHT or WRONG way to price, except that it's wrong to price and lose money on a consistent basis. You always want to make money.
Our price has 4 components: labor, supplies, overhead, & profit.
Labor is simply the calculation of the gross wage (rate paid per hour x hours per day x days per week x weeks per year). Then we add in our labor tax rate. Some people add in insurance rates, uniforms, etc. We don't do that, but it's not a bad thing if you do. We add this into our overhead.
Supplies, for us, are based on the Scope of Work (SOW). We estimate supplies based on that SOW.
Overhead is EVERYTHING that is not labor or supplies. So, for Universal Janitorial Services, this includes insurances, payroll processing, postage and delivery, marketing, legal, accounting, my salary (we are a C-Corp), rent, utilities, telecom, SaaS, office supplies, and more. I create a multiplier. ALL of our clients pay this multiplier. This is based on (= Overhead /(Labor + Supplies)).
Profit is whatever you make of it. Our goal is around 10%. Again, we are a C-Corp and Uncle Sam takes 35% or so of that. If you're a pass-through entity like a LLC or Sole-Prop, then you definitely need that percentage to be higher to cover your pay.
I add up all 4 components to come up with an annual rate, and I divide that by 12 for a monthly recurring rate.
Finally, we create an overall company P&L and create individual P&Ls for each client. That way we can track which clients make us more money than the others.
Resources mentioned:
Copy.ai
Video Walkthrough On Our Pricing (Important to note: I rewatched this video I made last year and caught a mistake in the profit calculation. The enclosed Spreadsheet in the line item below actually has the correct calcs - Mark).
Sample Pricing Spreadsheet from Video above
Apogee Mastermind application. Napoleon Hill defined the mastermind principle as "two or more minds working actively together in perfect harmony toward a common definite object." At Apogee, we meet in small groups each week to act as a peer group or a board of advisors to help both you and your business grow. We pool together resources and help each other through challenges, pitfalls, and wins. We're also planning on a live meetup in the near future, all included in the price of membership. I've been masterminding for years now and it's certainly changed my business for the better.

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04/03/22 • 32 min

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In this episode, we talk about ways you can grow your business through networking and referrals. Your network is your net worth.
Referrals...build a list of people you know. These include friends, family, acquaintances, and strangers. As you add to that list, figure out who on that list is a decision-maker for a property that you'd like to clean. You can also use that list to ask for referrals to grow your business. Referrals brought in millions in extra revenue for Universal just by asking. Most of the time we're offered a referral without any sort of compensation. But sometimes we'll offer a percentage of any new contract in exchange for a bonus referral. It's a great way to grow your janitorial business.
Networking...this form of marketing has brought in more revenue than all of our other sources. We'll join networking groups, chamber of commerces, associations, and others to get around decision-makers and to grow our business. We never go in trying to sell our business. Instead, we go with the expectation of making friends. Friendship first and business later. It's those long-lasting relationships that led to growth within our company.
Resource mentioned:
https://academy.hubspot.com
This episode has been brought to you by Universal Janitorial Services. If you ever need cleaning in the DC area, we're here to help you. www.ujsinc.com

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03/31/22 • 20 min

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Who Is Your Avatar?

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03/29/22 • 15 min

Who Is Your Avatar? Who is that ideal client? In this episode, I unpack what you need to do to define your avatar and why you need one if you want to have a large cleaning business.
You need to figure out who you're going to target. Take out a sheet of paper. On one side, write out every single service you are currently offering or want to offer. Are they in alignment? Are they generating revenue? Or are you carrying dead weight because you're spending time marketing a service that nobody is buying?
Then on the other side of the paper, write out every niche you'd like to target. Make a list of churches, schools, office buildings, etc. Here's the hard part: pick only one to start. Why? It helps eliminate distractions. Instead of being pulled in with all of the client possibilities out there, you are now focused on one. Dive in deep to that one. Be known as the expert within that niche, like a "school cleaning expert" or a "bank cleaning expert". Change up your website copy and blog.
Now dive deep into that niche. Go to Google and google, "schools near me" or "dentists near me" or whatever niche you want to target. Open up Excel or Google Sheets and put headings on the top, like Company name, Company address, Company URL, and so forth. As you find leads, fill them in and grow. With a simple Google search, you have all the information you need to call and mail them. Use sites like Hunter dot io or Seamless dot ai to find emails. You can now email your list.
Dive deeper into that avatar. Where do they hang out? Figure out what associations they belong to or networking groups they attend. Find individuals who can connect you to. Always ask for referrals.
Now, all you have to do is to prospect to them. Grow a large business!
Resources Mentioned:
https://americassbdc.org
https://hunter.io
https://www.linkedin.com
https://www.seamless.ai
Fanatical Prospecting - book
If you felt this show is worth 5-starts, I would truly appreciate a rating and review through whatever platform you happen to be listening on.
This podcast is brought to you by My Clean Pivot, LLC. Face it, we all need help growing our businesses. Check out My Clean Pivot if you're looking to grow your business to that next level. www.mycleanpivot.com.

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Beyond The Mop is for the cleaning business owner who wants that edge. This is an 8-episode series on all the things you need to know on how to take your cleaning business to that next level and is delivered in bite-sized chunks you can listen to in your car or while cleaning.

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