
EU vs AI: What You Need to Know About the EU's AI Act - The Legal Opinion with Flick Fisher, Partner at Fieldfisher
01/30/24 • 33 min
Could the EU's new AI Act be the cornerstone of global AI regulation? That's what we're here to unpack with the expert insight of Flick Fisher, a leading privacy specialist and partner at Fieldfisher. As the digital age accelerates, the European Union is setting a precedent with the AI Act, a groundbreaking legislation designed to navigate the complex terrain of artificial intelligence. Flick and I dissect the Act's risk-based approach, dissecting the prohibited and high-risk AI systems categories, while giving a nod to the lighter touch on low-risk innovations. Our conversation delves into how this monumental regulation could shape data privacy and ethical AI practices on the world stage.
Join us as we explore not only the definitions and distinctions within the AI Act but also its everyday implications for business operations, from HR decisions to the product safety landscape. With generative AI technologies like ChatGPT on the rise, understanding the nuances of this legislative framework has never been more crucial. We'll navigate the potential new compliance roles the Act may create and predict whether this regulatory move could become the global gold standard. Tune in for a comprehensive analysis that will equip COOs and business leaders with the foresight needed to thrive in an AI-governed future.
(00:06) EU AI Act and Its Impact
(11:50) Regulations and Definitions of AI
(27:38) The Implications of the AI Act
Links
Episode link: https://www.betweentwocoos.com/the-eu-vs-ai-the-legal-opinion-with-flick-fisher-partner-at-fieldfisher/
Flick's previous episode on GDPR: https://www.betweentwocoos.com/data-privacy-gdpr-flick-fisher/
Flick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/felicityfisher/
Fieldfisher: https://www.fieldfisher.com/
Between Two COO's: https://www.betweentwocoos.com/
Michael Koenig on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/michael-koenig514/
Could the EU's new AI Act be the cornerstone of global AI regulation? That's what we're here to unpack with the expert insight of Flick Fisher, a leading privacy specialist and partner at Fieldfisher. As the digital age accelerates, the European Union is setting a precedent with the AI Act, a groundbreaking legislation designed to navigate the complex terrain of artificial intelligence. Flick and I dissect the Act's risk-based approach, dissecting the prohibited and high-risk AI systems categories, while giving a nod to the lighter touch on low-risk innovations. Our conversation delves into how this monumental regulation could shape data privacy and ethical AI practices on the world stage.
Join us as we explore not only the definitions and distinctions within the AI Act but also its everyday implications for business operations, from HR decisions to the product safety landscape. With generative AI technologies like ChatGPT on the rise, understanding the nuances of this legislative framework has never been more crucial. We'll navigate the potential new compliance roles the Act may create and predict whether this regulatory move could become the global gold standard. Tune in for a comprehensive analysis that will equip COOs and business leaders with the foresight needed to thrive in an AI-governed future.
(00:06) EU AI Act and Its Impact
(11:50) Regulations and Definitions of AI
(27:38) The Implications of the AI Act
Links
Episode link: https://www.betweentwocoos.com/the-eu-vs-ai-the-legal-opinion-with-flick-fisher-partner-at-fieldfisher/
Flick's previous episode on GDPR: https://www.betweentwocoos.com/data-privacy-gdpr-flick-fisher/
Flick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/felicityfisher/
Fieldfisher: https://www.fieldfisher.com/
Between Two COO's: https://www.betweentwocoos.com/
Michael Koenig on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/michael-koenig514/
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Links
Greg Strickland on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregstrickland/
Episode Link: https://www.betweentwocoos.com/productboard-coo-greg-strickland
Matt Blumberg: https://startupceo.com/
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Michael Koenig on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-koenig514/
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