Between the Worlds Podcast
Amanda Yates Garcia, Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs
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Join us Between the Worlds as we discuss tarot, psychology, mythology, pop culture, witchcraft, magic, art, and history with host Amanda Yates Garcia and a series of special guests. Music and production by Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs. (Looking for the podcast Strange Magic? You can find those episodes here as well. Just scroll down, Strange Magic episodes begin with the acronym SM. If you'd like to read our statement on the end of that podcast, please see the show notes of episode BTW 28: Ace of Swords. Thanks for listening! xo)
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SM 2 : The Fool — Start at the Beginning
Between the Worlds Podcast
10/18/18 • 22 min
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The Fool often appears at the beginning of a journey. At those times we launch ourselves into a new course of action, often because we don't know how difficult it will be once we get into the thick of it. But The Fool is surrounded by guides, guardians and protectors. In this episode, learn how you can access some of yours.
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**Amanda Yates Garcia (art witch, healer, writer):**
**Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs (musician, artist, producer):**
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SM 1: The Card of the Year / Your Card of the Year
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10/11/18 • 24 min
Before we begin, please note that this episode was recorded before the SCOTUS confirmation hearings. The card of this year is Justice (Major Arcana 11). Yeah. Topical, right?
In any case, join us as we discuss how to calculate your Soul Card, your Year Card and THE Card of the Year - what "card of the year" means, controversies, karma, what justice is? Do we get justice through punishment and revenge, or through restoration of balance.
Technical Stuff:
To calculate THE card of the year, add up the numbers of the year: 2 + 0 + 1 + 8 = 11 = Justice, and some people then reduce 11 down to 1 + 1 = 2 = the High Priestess.
To calculate YOUR card of the year, one way of doing it is to add your birth month (for example, April = 4) plus your birth day (let’s say, April 11th = 11) and then add it to the number of THIS year. So: 4 + 11 + 2 + 0 + 1 + 8 = 26 . Then you reduce the number to correspond to the Major Arcana, so 2 + 6 = 8
A great resource to find out more about calculating the card of the year and tarot numerology is Mary K. Greer’s Tarot Constellations: Patterns of Personal Destiny published in 1987 by Newcastle Publishing Co.
Vocab:
Major Arcana - The 22 archetypal cards (numbers 0 through XXI) that make a tarot deck a tarot deck rather than just a deck of playing cards.
Numerology - a system of divination where numbers correspond to mystical meanings.
Archetypes - an overarching pattern of behavior or a “way things happen”, specifically refers to religion, mythology, symbols, literature and art. See also Carl Jung.
Keys - the keys of the tarot are the tarot cards themselves but most often refer to the Major Arcana. They’re called keys because they open up portholes to new ways of thinking.
Correspondences - within the occult, objects, symbols, astrological signs, elements, metals, crystals and many other objects and signs relate to each other through a system known as correspondences. For instance, Major Arcana 3, the Empress, corresponds to the planet Venus.
BOGO - Buy One Get One.
Get Involved
If you’re interested in getting more involved politically, here are some ideas for places you can start. Remember, witches aren’t just about love, light and meditation; we get active in the world and work on behalf of justice for all beings.
RAICES: support every aspect of legal aid for immigrant families: https://www.raicestexas.org/#donate
BLM: https://blacklivesmatter.com/resources/
RAINN - Nationals Sexual Assault Telephone Hotline: https://www.rainn.org/about-national-sexual-assault-telephone-hotline
Immediate Midterm election actions:
Canvassing is an especially effective approach, and although initially terrifying, it can be, dare we say... fun?!: Swing Left https://swingleft.org + Sister District https://www.sisterdistrict.com provide infrastructure, scripts, etc
Textbanking: https://www.openprogress.com/text-troop/
Postcarding: https://postcardstovoters.org
Bake sales (for real!): http://www.bakeamericagreat.org
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SM 3: The Magician — Making Choices and Using What You've Got
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10/25/18 • 26 min
The Magician teaches us how to harness our will and achieve our desires. Tune in to this episode to learn about the symbology of this card, see some examples of the Magician in pop culture, and find out how to use it to create some magic of your own.
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Vocab:
Major Arcana - The 22 archetypal cards (numbers 0 through XXI) that make a tarot deck a tarot deck rather than just a deck of playing cards.
Magic - changing material reality or consciousness according to one's will; often combines symbols, emotional charge and action to initiate transformation .
Suits: The four sections of a tarot deck that correspond to the suits in a regular deck of playing cards. In the case of the tarot it's cups (hearts), pentacles (spades), diamonds (swords), wands (clubs).
Heroes Journey: The common trope of stories that involve a hero who goes on an adventure, has a crisis, wins a victory, and then comes home changed or transformed bringing a gift to her people.
Athame: A witch's ceremonial knife.
Archetypes - an overarching pattern of behavior or a “way things happen”, specifically refers to religion, mythology, symbols, literature and art. See also Carl Jung.
Keys - the keys of the tarot are the tarot cards themselves but most often refer to the Major Arcana. They’re called keys because they open up portholes to new ways of thinking.
Correspondences - within the occult, objects, symbols, astrological signs, elements, metals, crystals and many other objects and signs relate to each other through a system known as correspondences. For instance, Major Arcana 3, the Empress, corresponds to the planet Venus.
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**Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs (musician, artist, producer):**
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BTW 64: How to Celebrate Beltane – the Plant Lust Pagan Holiday
Between the Worlds Podcast
04/29/22 • 53 min
In this episode we discuss Beltane, the sexiest Pagan holiday in the Wheel of the Year. Tune in to learn more about its history, meaning, and how you can celebrate and light some fires of your own. In this episode we cover:
- Everything you ever wanted to know about Beltane but were afraid to ask
- Whether or not it's okay to work magic during an eclipse
- How to recognize a sacred site
- Offerings for fairies
- Plant lust
- and give you a Beltane blessing!
Tune in!
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- Find us on Instagram at:
- Podcast: @Betweentheworldspodcast
- Amanda: @OracleofLA
- Carolyn: @CarolynPennypackerRiggs
REFERENCES FOR THIS EPISODE:
- Self Delve plant dildos on Etsy.
- Sign up for Maria Minnis, aka @tinyparsnip on Instagram, Waning Moon newsletter here.
- “Twilight Sleep: A collection of Henbane Lore,” by Coby Michael Ward on Patheos.
- The Christian Beltane blessing, on Sacred Texts dot org.
- Am Beannachadh Bealltain (The Beltane Blessing), a pagan revision, by Patti Wiggington.
- "Re-Enchanting the World: Feminism and the Politics of the Commons" a book by Silvia Federici.
- “Celtic Heritage: Ancient Tradition in Ireland and Wales,” a book by Alwyn and Brinley Rees.
- Lord of Misrule: Thomas Morton's American Subversions. An essay by Ed Simon on the Public Domain Review.
- Britannica, The Editors of Encyclopedia. "May Day". Encyclopedia Britannica, 1 Mar. 2022, https://www.britannica.com/topic/May-Day-international-observance. Accessed 25 April 2022.
- Well Maidens Blog.
- Wikipedia contributors. "Belenus." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, 19 Apr. 2022. Web. 26 Apr. 2022.
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COURT OF PENTACLES: FINDING YOUR GIFT WORKSHOP
If you have trouble identifying your gifts, or knowing what to do with them, this is the right workshop for you!
In this 4-week workshop, we’ll cover how to identify, develop, and protect your gifts, and then how to offer them to the world — all through the lens of the Court of Pentacles in tarot!
THIS WORKSHOP INCLUDES:
- Weekly, easy, doable, downloadable PDF worksheets
- Practical, achievable weekly activities you can do in less than an hour a week
- Invocations, rituals, and spells galore!
- Journal prompts, correspondences, and keywords to help you metabolize and make use of what you learn
- MP3s of songs you can use anytime to access the spirit of the Court of Pentacles
- And a 1.5 hour live call to go deeper into the work
You can buy this as a one off or, get yourself the gift that keeps on giving throughout the year, and become a member of our coven where you get workshops, monthly tarot studio classes, and lots of other goodies included in the cost of membership.
Become a Between the Worlds Weird Circle Subscriber, click here.
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Learn More About Your Host Amanda Yates Garcia, & Buy Her Book
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SM 0: Meeting Us Witches
Between the Worlds Podcast
09/21/18 • 21 min
Join us for our very first episode of Strange Magic where we introduce ourselves and our podcast and describe what you can expect throughout our podcast season. We share our perspectives on where magic is right now, how we see witchcraft, what to expect from a tarot reading, and a few tips on how to use tarot in your magical practice. Tune in and say hi.
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68: The Feast of Summer Solstice with Melissa Madara
Between the Worlds Podcast
06/17/22 • 61 min
Get ready for Summer Solstice with this episode as we discuss the history of Summer Solstice and how you can celebrate it in all your witchy glory. Hint: a feast is involved! Then join Amanda and her special guest, Melissa Madara, co-owner of Catland Books (Brooklyn's favorite occult shop). We take a deep dive into the magic of the kitchen as we discuss Melissa's book: The Witch's Feast. Plant lovers and folks who love to nerd out on magical history will especially love this episode. In this convo we discuss:
- Where the name Litha comes from
- Divination magic for the Solstice
- Food spells and plant magic
- How to transform your kitchen into a magical house of witchcraft
- How to forage for herbs in urban environments
- Learning to see invasive plants as a voice of the spirits of the land
- How to use kitchen magic to remediate challenging aspects of your birth chart
- The most important thing for baby witches to do when they begin their practice.
We can't wait for you to tune in! Happy Solstice!
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- Find us on Instagram at:
- Podcast: @Betweentheworldspodcast
- Amanda: @OracleofLA
- Carolyn: @CarolynPennypackerRiggs
REFERENCES FROM THIS EPISODE:
- Marsilio Ficino, philosopher of the Renaissance via Britannica online.
- History of the Summer Solstice Holiday by Patti Wigington , via Learn Religions.
- Witchcraft Medicine: Healing Arts, Shamanic Practices, and Forbidden Plants. By Claudia Muller-Ebeling, Christian Ratsch, and Wolf-Dieter Storl. [Book]
- Why We Celebrate Summer Solstice, by Maria Konnikova, via Scientific American.
- The Native American Sun Dance. Native Americans Online.
- The Long Lost Friend: a 19th Century American Grimoire, by John George Hohman, via Catland Books.
- Fiddler's Green Magazine : Art & Magic for Tea-Drinking Anarchists, Convivial Conjurors & Closeted Optimists
- Condensed Chaos by Phil Hinde via Catland Books.
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FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST MELISSA JAYNE MADARA:
Melissa Jayne Madara is a witch, chef, botanist, and storyteller. They are a partner at Catland Books, Brooklyn's little witch shop, where they serve as an educator, diviner, and curator of Catland's courtyard garden. In addition, Melissa is the editrix of Catland's house-published arts and occulture journal, Venefica Magazine. Melissa's writing and commentary has been published in Venefica (V2 & V4) as well as in Susie Magazine (Issue 1) , Fiddler's Green Peculiar Parish Magazine (Volumes 5 & 7), and in their premiere book, The Witch's Feast.
Melissa's research focuses primarily on plant folklore, ancient religions, herbalism, divination, and the botany of poisonous plants. They are an avid collector of historical formularies, particularly recipes for food and fragrance. Melissa's botanical and apothecary work can be found under the brand Moon Cult Herbs. As a chef, Melissa is most known for hosting sumptuous ritual dinners and full moon feasts in Brooklyn and beyond. Find out more about Melissa here...
Website: thewitchsfeast.com
Instagram: @saint.jayne
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SM 4: Samhain — Rituals for Halloween (+ to hex or not to hex)
Between the Worlds Podcast
10/31/18 • 32 min
Vocab:
Samhain: - Pronounced "Sow-wen", Samhain is the witches holiday on October 31st honoring the ancestors and celebrating the 3rd harvest.
Magic: - changing material reality or consciousness according to one's will; often combines symbols, emotional charge and action to initiate transformation .
Hexing: A spell directed towards another person or group with the intention of causing them harm.
Binding: A spell cast on another person or group with the intention of preventing them from doing harm.
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Books Mentioned in the Podcast
Laurie Cabot with Tom Cowan. "Power of the Witch." Delta, 1990.
Micheal M. Hughes, "Magic for the Resistance." Llewellyn Publications, 2018.
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**Amanda Yates Garcia (art witch, healer, writer):**
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BTW 45: Sand Talk with Tyson Yunkaporta
Between the Worlds Podcast
07/22/21 • 93 min
On today’s episode we’re talking with Tyson Yunkaporta, author of “Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World.” Tyson is a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne and is a member of the Apalech clan in Queensland, Australia. "Sand Talk" explains how the teachings of aboriginal culture can help us imagine a way to a sustainable future by emphasizing community and connection over individualism and fragmentation, and by cultivating respect for the land. In this episode, we talk about how even when Western cultures seek out indigenous knowledges, they lack a framework to be able to understand what they're being offered. Indigenous thinking, according to Tyson, is relational. It requires long term connection and commitment to the community and the land. It’s not just about using didgeridoos, or smudge sticks, (or wands and cauldrons as the case may be), it's about engaging with a larger matrix of connectivity that is the TRUE essence of indigenous thinking and way of life.. We're really excited to share this episode with you! Thanks for tuning in!
References in this episode include:
- Tyson Yunkaporta, "Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World."
- Tucker Carlson Had A Witch On His Show, It Did Not Go As Planned, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-witch-interview_n_59c1c14ce4b0186c2206b97f
- Michael M Hughes, "A Spell To Bind Donald Trump and All Those That Aid And Abet Him."
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REGISTER FOR AMANDA'S MOON RITUAL ON FRIDAY 7/23/21 6:30pm PST
This Aquarius Full Moon in Leo Season is the Visionary Moon, the Claiming Moon, and the Herb Moon. Leo season asks us to show up with a heart full of courage. Aquarius is the sign of the visionary. This full moon is the time to show up with courage and envision the life you want; not just for yourself, but for all beings.
Ritual is on Zoom and by donation - 7/23/21 6:30pm PST. To register CLICK HERE.
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CURRENT WORKSHOPS
TEMPERANCE: Potions, Offerings, & Rituals of Transformation : In this workshop you will learn to use ordinary substances to make big magic in your everyday life. Cooking magic, cleaning magic, love magic, and more. You'll learn how to whip up a spell using the things you have in your kitchen, create offerings for your ancestors, and a clearing bath that will restore your soul. Click here to find out more.
To become a Between the Worlds Weird Circle Subscriber, click here.
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Learn More About Our Guest Tyson Yunkaporta
Tyson Yunkaporta is an academic, an arts critic, and a researcher who is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. He carves traditional tools and weapons and also works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne. He lives in Melbourne and his book "Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save The World," is out now via Harper Collins.
Buy his book "Sand Talk" via his publisher page: https://www.harpercollins.com/blogs/authors/tyson-yunkaporta
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Learn More About Your Host Amanda Yates Garcia
To sign up for Amanda's next ritual, click here: FULL MOON IN AQUARIUS
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To order Amanda's book, "Initiated: Memoir of a Witch" CLICK HERE.
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BTW 23: 8 of Wands – Focusing Your Attention with T. Susan Chang
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08/20/20 • 60 min
The 8 of Wands appears when it is necessary to focus our attention and act fast. The time for waiting is over. We receive an important message and we need to act on it. Join us this episode when we talk with Harvard educated T. Susan Chang, author of Tarot Correspondences, who literally knows everything there is to know about the tarot. We talk about this card's astrological correspondence: the upbeat Mercury in Sagittarius (expansion of communication), but how that's not always a good thing (gossip, overexposure). We talk about ways to organize your tarot studies to get the most out of them, and simple ways to use this card to aid you in your travels. You won't want to miss this episode!
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UPCOMING WORKSHOPS
Candle Magic Workshop - Download Available 8/13/20
Whether or not you “believe” in magic, candle rituals are a great way to focus your intention, shift your mood and connect to your sacred practices. This is a Between the Worlds workshop and can be purchased as a one off, or is included in your Jupiter level subscriber membership. Click here to register.
Healing Ceremony for Virgo Season 8/21/20 4pm PST
This Waxing Moon session is 100% ceremony, trance, energy work, and breath. We focus on setting intentions, clearing blocks, going deeper into our physical practices, connecting with our most authentic self and increasing our capacity for joy, presence, and pleasure in our bodies, hearts, and minds. NOTE: This is Amanda's personal ritual. Please direct questions to amanda@oracleoflosangeles.com (not Between the Worlds) - Click here to register.
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Find out more about our special guest, writer and tarot encyclopedia T. Susan Chang ....
Visit her website - www.tsusanchang.com
By her book - Tarot Correspondences
Visit her Etsy Shop: www.etsy.com/shop/tarotista
And to get her 8 of Wands tarot luggage tags, click here.
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References in this episode include:
- Save the Cat by Blake Snyder - the concept of breaking into Act 3
- Keywords for the Crowley Tarot
- Astrology for the Authentic Self by Demetra George
- Dylan Thomas The Force That Through The Green Fuse Drives The Flower
To sign up for Amanda's newsletter, CLICK HERE.
To order Amanda's book, "Initiated: Memoir of a Witch" CLICK HERE.
Amanda's Facebook
To book an appointment with Amanda go to www.oracleoflosangeles.com
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Original MUSIC by Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs
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CONTRIBUTORS:
Amanda Yates Garcia (host) & Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs (producer). Often with editing help from Jiha Lee. The BTW image was created by Maria Minnis (

BTW 24: 9 of Wands – Tapping Into Source with Leah Garza
Between the Worlds Podcast
08/27/20 • 61 min
How do you keep going when you're exhausted and over it, when you feel like no matter what you build, something just comes along to knock it down again? The 9 of Wands is the feeling that comes when you feel like you've been struggling forever and you just don't know if you can take one more blow. The good news is, the 9 of Wands also offers some wisdom on how you can reconnect with your power source, feel rejuvenated, and remember why you started this journey in the first place. In today's episode of Between the Worlds we discuss all of this with activist, Akashic records reader, and decolonial scholar Leah Garza. For those of you who need a little encouragement, this is a good episode to tune in!
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8/27/20 Today Only - Buy Amanda's Book "Initiated: Memoir of a Witch" for $2.99 on Kindle.
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UPCOMING WORKSHOPS
Candle Magic Workshop - Download Available 8/13/20
Whether or not you “believe” in magic, candle rituals are a great way to focus your intention, shift your mood and connect to your sacred practices. This is a Between the Worlds workshop and can be purchased as a one off, or is included in your Jupiter level subscriber membership. Click here to register.
9/2/20 5pm PST - FULL MOON IN PISCES CEREMONY: DIVINATION AND INTUITION - By Donation
Full Moons can be the best time for divination because they are the times when the voice of Spirit comes through the strongest. We might think of it as spiritual high tide. This Full Moon Ceremony we will be: focusing on the Piscean practice of water scrying, connecting to our intuition, and discussing the relationship between creative, boundless Pisces and focused, precise Virgo; figuring out what is this season asking of us and how can we show up for it. NOTE: This is Amanda's personal ritual. Please direct questions to guardian@oracleoflosangeles.com (not Between the Worlds) - Click here to register.
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Find out more about our special guest, Akashic records reader, decolonial theorist and podcaster Leah Garza ....
Visit her website - crystalsofaltamira.com
Check out her Instagram feed: @crystalsofaltamira
Listen to her podcast: We Are Power Crystals
And to get her list of decolonial theory books click here.
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References in this episode include:
- Amanda mentions Jerico Mandybur’s Neo Tarot: A Fresh Approach to Self-Care, Healing and Empowerment
- Leah and Amanda discuss Mad Max: Fury Road.
To sign up for Amanda's newsletter, CLICK HERE.
To order Amanda's book, "Initiated: Memoir of a Witch" CLICK HERE.
Amanda's Facebook
To book an appointment with Amanda go to www.oracleoflosangeles.com
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Original MUSIC by Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs
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Get in touch with sponsorship inquiries for Between the Worlds at betweentheworldspodcast@gmail.com.
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CONTRIBUTORS:
Amanda Yates Garcia (host) & Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs (producer). Often with editing help from Jiha Lee. The BTW image was created by Maria Minnis (tinyparsnip.com /
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