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Better Words

Better Words

Michelle Gately & Caitlin Toohey

A podcast for readers who want to know the stories behind the pages 📖 Join Caitlin and Michelle, two book nerds who bring you in-depth conversations about writing and publishing from those on the inside. Grab a cuppa and get ready to chat books.
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Sara Foster was born and raised in England but now lives in Perth with her husband and young daughters. She has previously worked as an editor in-house at HarperCollins UK and then freelance and has worked on many popular titles. She loves dystopian fiction so much that she’s studying the genre for a PhD at Curtin University. So it will come as no surprise that today we are discussing her somewhat dystopian book, and her latest novel, The Hush.

Our interview begins at 21 minutes.

Mini book club: Excuse Me While I Ugly Cry by Joya Goffney

A smart and addictive romantic YA novel that explores race, relationships and what it means to own your truth.

In this interview, we chat about:

  • How Sara developed the idea for The Hush and why the mother-daughter relationship was central to the narrative
  • Why Sara chose to write something so close to our current reality, with a story set less than 10 years in the future, and why she set it in England
  • The freaky ways the books has mirrored real events
  • Exploring the nuances of the mother-daughter relationship within The Hush
  • Sara’s writing career and working on other books alongside The Hush
  • Blending genres and why Sara is so fascinated with dystopia - how does the genre evolve from here?
  • Why Sara wanted to pursue a PhD and how the novel developed out of that

Books and other things mentioned:

  • 100 Remarkable Feats of Xander Maze by Clayton Zane Comber
  • The Hate U Give (film)
  • The Hunger Games
  • Divergent
  • Only Ever Yours
  • Help (film)
  • The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
  • The Book of the Unnamed Midwife by Meg Elison

Follow Sara @sarafosterauthor. The Hush is available now.

Follow us on Instagram @betterwordspod

Please note that Caitlin's job at HarperCollins Publishers did not affect our decision to invite Sara to be a guest, we're delighted to have her and hope you enjoy this episode. Michelle also read a PR copy.

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Meg Rosoff spent 15 years working in advertising before writing her first novel. That book, How I Live Now, has since sold over one million copies in 36 territories, won prestigious awards and been adapted into a film. Her subsequent novels have been awarded or shortlisted for multiple awards including the Carnegie Medal. Although she was born in Boston, our guest now lives in London with her husband, daughter and dogs.

Interview starts at 15 minutes.

Caitlin recommends

2 brilliant fiction podcasts: Next Stop and Little Did I Know

For fans of rom-coms and uplifting contemporary storytelling.

Michelle recommends

Matt Haig's fiction. Beautiful magical realism exploring what it means to be human.

Books mentioned: How to Stop Time, The Dead Fathers Club, The Radleys, The Midnight Library

In this interview, we chat about

  • The difficulty with trying to explain exactly what happens in The Great Godden (or any character-driven novel)
  • Exploring conventional beauty, the commodity of beauty, and challenging commonly held beliefs
  • Meg’s struggle writing The Great Godden and her decision to keep the narrator unidentified
  • The act of discovery involved in writing a novel and trusting where the characters want to go
  • Meg’s plans for another novel exploring a pivotal summer, set during a New York internship and featuring an intense friendship that goes wrong
  • The arrival of the AIDS epidemic while Meg was living in New York in the 1980s
  • How our society will change (and potentially flourish) after Covid
  • The notion of adolescence and how it re-appears in our lives
  • Why Meg believes self-doubt is “unbelievably important” to the creative process
  • Meg’s experience of winning the second richest literary prize in the world: feeling unworthy, working harder to prove she was indeed worthy of the prize, and re-evaluating ‘success’
  • The person Meg regards as the best writer in the world
  • Meg’s advice to her younger self (and us all)

Books and other things mentioned

  • Downton Abbey
  • You’re Wrong About Podcast - Princess Diana series
  • Pride (film)
  • This Podcast Will Kill You Podcast - Hit Me With Your Best (Polio) Shot
  • Wolf Erlbruch
  • The Sword in the Stone by TH White

Learn more and get in touch with Meg at her website megrosoff.co.uk.

Follow us on Instagram @betterwordspod

Caitlin and Michelle both received copies of The Great Godden from Bloomsbury Publishing.

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Better Words - Recognisable hair with Danielle Binks
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08/08/17 • 62 min

Saddle up your kangaroo, take a bite of your Vegemite sandwich and grab a glass of Milo to join Caitlin and Michelle chatting to writing wonder woman Danielle Binks. The #LoveOzYA anthology editor talks sharing our culture and positive change in publishing. ‘Straya mate.

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Better Words - Reviews: In the hands of the reader
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01/23/18 • 63 min

How and why do we review and what happens when we didn’t love the book? This week we chat reviews (the good, the bad and the indifferent) and the relationships between authors and readers. Remember folks, be kind.

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This week we get a sneak peek behind the scenes of our favourite book store and a taste of the publishing industry. We’re joined by Tonile Wortley from Hachette to talk about the books we don’t even know we want to read yet. Get those Christmas wishlists ready!

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Better Words - Ravish me, Rafael

Ravish me, Rafael

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09/05/17 • 60 min

Blogging, booktubing, bookstagramming... what does it all mean?! Caitlin and Michelle sit down with a cuppa to discuss how writing about books online has changed their lives (and their bookshelves). It's time to hit publish!

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Better Words - Better Words and All That Jazz
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01/09/18 • 57 min

This week we are taking you on stage to share our favourite musical moments. We’re a little bit naughty as we talk about those summer nights and singin’ in the rain in an episode where anything goes.

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Better Words - Handmade love with Kate from Lillytales
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08/29/17 • 66 min

There's no need to resort to dog-earing those pages (the horror!) with the sweet handmade bookmarks sold by Nook and Burrow, co-created by Lillytales blogger and booktuber Kate. Find out how Kate turned her hobby into a business and how scents are decided, plus the usual bookish banter. Because, we like talking.

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This week Caitlin and Michelle are joined by their IRL bestie, Indy of TapsLifeAndBooks! We're chatting about series versus stand alones, our fave series, booktube and sharing some friendship stories! If you're a Cassandra Clare or Sarah J. Maas fan you're in for a treat!

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Gary Lonesborough is a Yuin man, who grew up on the Far South Coast of New South Wales as part of a large and proud Aboriginal family. Gary was always writing as a child, and continued his creative journey when he moved to Sydney to study at film school. Gary has experience working in youth work, Aboriginal health, child protection, the disability sector (including experience working in the youth justice system) and the film industry, including working on the feature film adaptation of Jasper Jones. His debut YA novel, The Boy from the Mish, won multiple awards. It was published in the US in 2022 as Ready When You Are. His second novel, We Didn’t Think It Through, was published in 2023. Today we're discussing his new novel, I'm Not Really Here.

Our interview begins at 19.00

We've got a Substack publication now! On the last day of the month, we share recommendations for two things we reckon you should read/watch/listen to. The beauty of Substack is you can revisit all our old editions and comment on our episode updates to share your thoughts. Come say hi!

Caitlin recommends: Gilmore Girls and The Pumpkin Spice Cafe*

This autumnal sensation was inspired by Gilmore Girls and although the seasons are different, this is a delightful romantic read.

Michelle talks about the books she bought in Edinburgh.

  • Glasgow Boys by Margaret McDonald
  • A Little Trickerie by Rosanna Pike
  • The Peepshow: The Murders at 10 Rillington Place by Kate Summerscale
  • Cult Classic by Sloane Crosley
  • Mary: The Birth of Frankenstein by Anne Eekhout
  • Affinity by Sarah Waters
  • His Bloody Project by Graeme MacRae Burnett

In this interview, we chat about:

  • The very personal experience that inspired Jonah's story
  • How the story developed from a dark horror into a contemporary story
  • Writing authentic teen boys
  • Why it was so important for Gary to explore the youth justice system through his second book, We Didn't Think It Through
  • Gary's journey to publication and what it's like to hear from teenage readers

Books and other things mentioned:

  • Nobody Wants This (TV show)
  • Veronica Mars (TV show)
  • Only Murders In the Building (TV show)
  • Gilmore Girls (TV show)
  • Sophie Green (listen to our interview here)
  • Happy Head by Josh Silver (listen to our interview)
  • The Rest is Entertainment podcast episode: Showmance or Romance? Inside Celebrity Relationship Contracts
  • A Monster Calls by Patrick Ness
  • Panther by David Owen
  • Art Hour at the Duchess Hotel by Sophie Green (listen to our interview)
  • Banged Up: Stars Behind Bars (TV show)

Follow @garylonesborough on Instagram

I'm Not Really Here is available now. Thank you to the publishers for providing us with copies of the book in preparation for the interview.

Connect with us on Instagram: @betterwordspod

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How many episodes does Better Words have?

Better Words currently has 203 episodes available.

What topics does Better Words cover?

The podcast is about Podcasts, Books and Arts.

What is the most popular episode on Better Words?

The episode title 'Fancying your friend, writing with heart, and publishing prejudice with Matt Cain' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Better Words?

The average episode length on Better Words is 62 minutes.

How often are episodes of Better Words released?

Episodes of Better Words are typically released every 7 days, 1 hour.

When was the first episode of Better Words?

The first episode of Better Words was released on Aug 2, 2017.

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