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Beds Blab - an experiment in amateur podcasting in Bedfordshire - 2. "Connect with themselves" - Yvonne Michele, inspirational advice from a Bedfordshire tutor and broadcaster

2. "Connect with themselves" - Yvonne Michele, inspirational advice from a Bedfordshire tutor and broadcaster

04/13/19 • 7 min

Beds Blab - an experiment in amateur podcasting in Bedfordshire

In this interview we get to learn more about the work done by a tutor working on Develop’s Children in Need project. The Children in Need project is a 9 session course called “Like It, Live It”. It is funded by Children in Need and is run by Develop EBP. The course helps young people develop their confidence, team working skills and mental wellbeing.

Techie stuff: Just like episode one, this interview was recorded using just a Zoom H4N handy recorder. No external microphones were used; only the Zoom’s internal mic was used. The Zoom was rested on a little chunk of foam beside myself and Yvonne. We were both sitting around 50cm from the Zoom’s mic. No headphones were used by either myself or Yvonne to listen to ourselves as we recorded.

The interview took place in a medium-sized room and a colleague was present in the room quietly trying to get on with her work and tidy up this classroom. You do occasionally hear these background noises and sometimes they are surprisingly sharp and loud – such as when some pencils are put down on a table. The room is also next to a road and there are traffic noises. These are distracting but I still feel that you are able to hear what Yvonne has to say clearly throughout the recording.

From the interview-skills side of this piece I did not waffle quite as much with my questions and Yvonne did the majority of the talking; as it should be.
This episode was recorded on the same day as episode one and so I had not yet fully appreciated just how much of an effect ambient noises have in recordings.

As in episode one, I did a little editing in Audacity and used the Levelator software to finish off the final project. While in Audacity the project is made up of seven audio clips. When this is project is saved as a wav and listened to, you notice the different audio levels between the clips. After using the Levelator these differences become harder to notice.
Link to Luton Urban Radio
http://www.lurlive.com/

Background music: Love Chances by Makaih Beats from the Free Music Archive. This music is licenced under Attribution-Non Commercial Licence. http://freemusicarchive.org

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In this interview we get to learn more about the work done by a tutor working on Develop’s Children in Need project. The Children in Need project is a 9 session course called “Like It, Live It”. It is funded by Children in Need and is run by Develop EBP. The course helps young people develop their confidence, team working skills and mental wellbeing.

Techie stuff: Just like episode one, this interview was recorded using just a Zoom H4N handy recorder. No external microphones were used; only the Zoom’s internal mic was used. The Zoom was rested on a little chunk of foam beside myself and Yvonne. We were both sitting around 50cm from the Zoom’s mic. No headphones were used by either myself or Yvonne to listen to ourselves as we recorded.

The interview took place in a medium-sized room and a colleague was present in the room quietly trying to get on with her work and tidy up this classroom. You do occasionally hear these background noises and sometimes they are surprisingly sharp and loud – such as when some pencils are put down on a table. The room is also next to a road and there are traffic noises. These are distracting but I still feel that you are able to hear what Yvonne has to say clearly throughout the recording.

From the interview-skills side of this piece I did not waffle quite as much with my questions and Yvonne did the majority of the talking; as it should be.
This episode was recorded on the same day as episode one and so I had not yet fully appreciated just how much of an effect ambient noises have in recordings.

As in episode one, I did a little editing in Audacity and used the Levelator software to finish off the final project. While in Audacity the project is made up of seven audio clips. When this is project is saved as a wav and listened to, you notice the different audio levels between the clips. After using the Levelator these differences become harder to notice.
Link to Luton Urban Radio
http://www.lurlive.com/

Background music: Love Chances by Makaih Beats from the Free Music Archive. This music is licenced under Attribution-Non Commercial Licence. http://freemusicarchive.org

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undefined - 1. "Best life chances" - Helen McHugh on being a Bedfordshire IAG advisor

1. "Best life chances" - Helen McHugh on being a Bedfordshire IAG advisor

In this interview we get to learn what a Bedfordshire IAG advisor does. I speak with Helen McHugh, an experienced IAG advisor.
During the interview, Helen mentions the Children in Need project and Study Programme. The Children in Need project is a 9 session course called “Like It, Live It”. It is funded by Children in Need but is run by Develop. The course helps young people develop their confidence, team working skills and mental wellbeing. Study Programme is a full-time education programme run by Develop where young learners can study towards maths and English qualifications as well as qualifications such as Childcare, ITQ, Introduction to Beauty and Employability.

Develop EBP is a company which provides learning courses for a range of ages, but predominately ages 16 - 19. Develop currently has training centres in Bedford, Dunstable, Hitchin and Norwich.

(Probably should have covered this in the interview)

Techie stuff: This interview was recorded using just a Zoom H4N handy recorder. No external microphones were used; only the Zoom’s internal mic was used. The Zoom was rested on a little chunk of foam beside myself and Helen. We were both sitting around 50cm from the Zoom’s mic. No headphones were used by either myself or Helen to listen to ourselves as we recorded.

The advice I read about podcasting says that you should ideally have a microphone for each person involved in the interview, and experts suggest that it is good to use a dynamic cardioid microphone as this will just pick up what a person says and minimise background (ambient) noise.
How distracting was the traffic noise for you?

The interview took place in a small room beside a busy road. The windows were not double glazed and you hear spells of background noise from the road outside.

Despite the problems, as an amateur I was actually quite pleased with the recording, in that afterwards, I could basically hear what was being said and that I had pressed the right buttons on the Zoom during the interview. I also liked just how quick it was to set up the Zoom and do nothing fancy. The introduction to the episode was recorded using a Blue Yeti USB microphone on its cardioid pattern. This section seemed to sound OKish before uploading but when I listen to it on the website I feel that it sounds a little different and not as clear, for some reason.

From the interview-skills side of this piece I noticed that my questions were long and quite rambling. In post-production I cut out lots of sections and you may well notice some of the ham-fisted bits. I also actually had to cut out about a whole minute at the start when I went on a nerve-ridden ramble about getting Helen’s surname (McHugh) mixed up with the surname of Bruce Willis’ character (McClane) in the Die Hard films. Classy stuff.

I edited the project in Audacity (free audio editing software) – moving some clips and music around, cutting out a few long pauses, adding fade-ins and fade-outs and finally exported the project as a wav file. I then put this wav file through a piece of free software called The Levelator which is recommended by some experts as a way to adjust the audio levels in the podcast. Finally, I converted this updated wav file to be an mp3 file so that it was ready to be uploaded and published. Without the Levelator the interview section of recording sounds very quiet. The downside to using the Levelator is that the traffic noise now sounds louder.
The lesson here is to never use this room again with the Zoom recorder and also to experiment with individual cardioid dynamic microphones.
Well... it's a start. The experiment continues..... Thank you for your patience.

Background music - Love Chances by Makaih Beats from the Free Music Archive. This music is licenced under Attribution-Non Commercial Licence.

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undefined - 3. "Attitude for gratitude" - Michelle Burton, working with and inspiring young people in Bedfordshire

3. "Attitude for gratitude" - Michelle Burton, working with and inspiring young people in Bedfordshire

In this interview we learn more about Michelle Burton, a Pastoral Support worker working on Develop’s Children in Need project. Michelle talks about what she does, her path to the job she is doing now, how she supports young learners and how the course she delivers can help young people make positive changes in their lives. The Children in Need project is a 9 session course called “Like It, Live It”. It is funded by Children in Need but is run by Develop. The course helps young people develop their confidence, team working skills and mental wellbeing.

Techie stuff: A big change in this episode as I try and use a recording set-up which is advised by podcast experts.

I use the Zoom H4n as my recorder for the interview. This is sat in the middle of the table between myself and Michelle but it is not using its own internal microphones to do any recording. Instead I have two dynamic cardioid microphones plugged into the XLR ports on the Zoom. One of the microphones is a JTS TM 929 microphone – which is a relatively cheap (in price) mic I bought from the Bedford Music shop. The other microphone used was an Audio Technica ATR 2100 (Michelle speaks in to this one). So many books, articles, podcasts and videos I have studied have recommended this microphone.

It is regarded as having good quality for an affordable price but also its adaptability is recommended because it can be used as a USB microphone plugged into a laptop or used as an XLR microphone when you start moving up in complexity of your podcasting projects, connecting to mixers.

In this interview I had the two microphones set up in table-top microphone stands. These are cheap stands (in price) with big heavy metal bases (looking like ugly weights from a dumbbell) and a simple upright pole connecting the microphone. The stands I had had limited adjustability in terms of heights – I needed to get the ends of the mics as close to my and my guest’s mouths. Many podcasts set-ups I have seen while researching the topic seem to prefer boom arms which can be clamped to a table and swung into almost any position. Not yet sure if I should change to these.

My mic stands do not have shock mounts. Shock mounts are little rigs suspending the mic with rubber bands. If the stand is knocked or the table is bumped the shock mount should absorb this and prevent an ugly sound going into the recording. To make up for not having a shock mount I placed each mic stand on top of two layers of foam.

Also in this set up, I used a small Behringer headphone amplifier. This connects to the Zoom and then myself, Fiona and Hannah each have a set of headphones which plug into the amplifier. Using the amplifier you can adjust your volume. I thought that I could get away with a headphone splitter when working with multiple headphones (a simple little device which plugs into the audio jack/headphone port and then has five output ports for multiple headphones to be plugged into). The downside of using a splitter is that the volume shrinks with each headphone plugged in.

The Behringer headphone amplifier I use is relatively cheap and works well to keep volume up and I will continue to use it for these kinds of interviews.

The kit took a bit of setting up but not too long and I had some things pre-prepared, such as mics already in stands and cables attached.

No road noise this time but still ambient noise - a builder hammering away at points during the recording. Oh-my-days. What can you do?
Music: Love Chances by Makaih Beats from the Free Music Archive. This music is licenced under Attribution-Non Commercial Licence.

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