
Piloting A Profitable Book Funnel
06/21/23 • 60 min
If you’re an author with a handful of books published (or you’ve published nonfiction and have one book with a great program to help clients), AMMO is unlike any other program on the market. You’re going to have to work the program to find success, and bestseller status likely won’t hit in weeks of joining the program, but for many authors, AMMO is the beginning of a lucrative career that puts books first. Learn more here.
My guest this week is Matt, “M.G.” Herron. Grab copies of M.G. Herron’s books here. Visit his website here.
Along the journey, Matt discusses a great article about author finances. Here’s the link to that one by John Scalzi.
As always, here’s the link to my audiobooks. You can get my audiobooks 2 for just $15.00. It’s the best price I offer anywhere.
TRBM is a listener-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.
Get full access to Becoming A Household Name at jodyjsperling.substack.com/subscribe
If you’re an author with a handful of books published (or you’ve published nonfiction and have one book with a great program to help clients), AMMO is unlike any other program on the market. You’re going to have to work the program to find success, and bestseller status likely won’t hit in weeks of joining the program, but for many authors, AMMO is the beginning of a lucrative career that puts books first. Learn more here.
My guest this week is Matt, “M.G.” Herron. Grab copies of M.G. Herron’s books here. Visit his website here.
Along the journey, Matt discusses a great article about author finances. Here’s the link to that one by John Scalzi.
As always, here’s the link to my audiobooks. You can get my audiobooks 2 for just $15.00. It’s the best price I offer anywhere.
TRBM is a listener-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.
Get full access to Becoming A Household Name at jodyjsperling.substack.com/subscribe
Previous Episode

Books for Brews Leads to Libraries Too
I’m part of the AMMO program, and since joining, I’ve sold $2,200 worth of books through my Shopify store and 103 books through Amazon for an additional $384.
Jody J. Sperling is a long way away from a full-time author, and (yes, I’m referring to myself in the third person) he’s progressing toward the goal. If you’re a person who wants to achieve full-time author status, and you have a handful of published books, it might be time to check out Author Marketing Mastery through Optimization (AMMO) for yourself. Click here to see what AMMO is all about.
Drive More Sales
We’re going into ultra experimental territory, so this episode may serve as a wait-and-see for authors who don’t want to chase every whim, but it might also be a phenomenal opportunity to get two birds flying with one gust of wind.
A while ago, I had an idea to reach out to my local town and tug their heartstrings to buy my book, but the more I’ve seen how the real world works, the more I recognize no person is willing to act unless given sufficient benefit to do so.
Sometimes sufficient benefit is charity and the self-satisfaction it delivers to the person taking action. Often times the sufficient benefit is a moment of pleasure greater than the previous state of being.
For example, I listen to a lot of podcasts, and the ones I enjoy the most have such a positive impact on my emotional wellbeing that I am willing to buy—or almost buy—products the hosts read ad copy for.
I’m not sure if Dax Shepard ever owned a Chrysler Pacifica or not, but he read ad copy for them for months, and when my family was shopping for a new minivan, I could hardly resist the urge to buy that van.
But if you ask me to listen to a podcast about beauty products, it doesn’t matter how good of friends we are. I’m not going to listen to that show. I might play it in the background—maybe—if I feel I owe you one, but good luck getting me to engage. It would have to be a transcendent moment where I heard something on the beauty products podcast to flip my script.
I have had my script flipped before, but it is so rare as to be statistically insignificant.
For example, you all know the wonderful and talented Xe Sands narrated my audiobooks. I had the wonderful fortune of speaking to her about my book, and we had a great conversation. She’s a delightful person who shares many of my values and interests.
So when she began talking about loving podcasts, I all but demanded a list of her favorites. She graciously provided a list of more than twenty shows she’s binged, and so, later that day, I started working through the list she’d provided. None captured my attention. To be fair, I didn’t make it through the entire list, but if someone I admire that much, has that little sway over my actions, imagine how little sway you have over a person’s actions when you are a stranger to her.
If you’re feeling a bit concerned and even slightly hopeless thinking about that, I want to assure you, you aren’t hopeless. Eye-opening moments lead to revelations, and that’s what happened for me, so I want to share my idea with you.
Right now it’s in the lab. I’ve taken it into the world with a few people, and I’m waiting for results, but in the meantime, you can adapt it for your needs if it seems like a possible fit.
The Grand Idea
My idea is to offer a book for a brew. This includes coffee, tea, beer, and even kombucha. I’m seeking to partner with area businesses, set up a table inside, and offer my book in exchange for a cup of tasty goodness.
Once I have three to five businesses who will agree to run the promotion with me, I’ll send a press release to KETV, The Omaha World Herald, and other local media outlets. In an ideal world, I’ll drive a bonkers number of book sales and take home a small amount of profit from the adventure.
In a realistic world, I’ll have a modest number of book sales, break even on cost, and walk away with an elevated Amazon ranking that I can then reference in future marketing marketing materials.
Different Tools
If my goal with the Book for a Brew campaign was to make money, I’d have a rough time of it, I think. You’d have a tough time motivating enough people to buy a book at a profitable value after compensating the coffee shop or bar for the purchase of a beverage. But if I’m running an awareness campaign, I can put a ton of eyeballs on my novel by using the free TV interview and a few spotlights in the local newspaper.
Instead of paying hundreds of dollars to be featured in an ad, I spend a few days creating a campaign, and a day or two selling books and rubbing elbows with local readers.
I encourage readers to order the book on Amazon, and depending on the success of the event, maybe I hit bestseller status for a couple minutes.
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Eric Otis Simmons Discusses Library Acquisition
If you want to sell books profitably, I highly encourage you to check out AMMO. There’s no program like it anywhere else. Click learn more to see if AMMO is a fit for you.
Eric Simmons is the CEO of ESE, Inc., a website development firm specializing in creating sites for small businesses, high school/college athletes, authors, poets, and others who seek to project their “Personal Brand” on the Internet.
A former college athlete, he enjoys sports and public speaking. He self-publishes under his full name, Eric Otis Simmons, and his written works are branded under the name ESETOMES (pronounced ESE-TOMES).
Eric has written and self-published five books that have appeared on Amazon’s “Best Sellers” list 212 times since January 2019. Two of his books were #1 “Hot New Releases” on Amazon.
His book Getting Your Book Into Libraries evolved from his well-received article, “How To Get Your Book Into Libraries,” which for two years was the top Google search result, out of over 2 billion, on the subject of “getting your book into libraries.” Over 200 Libraries, one as recent as last week, have purchased 258 copies of Simmons’ self-published books.
Connect with him on Facebook and Twitter.
Here his interview with Joanna Penn here.
And explore his resources for library contacts here.
Regarding Library Pricing
Eric and I discuss the library pricing strategy during this episode. Following our conversation, I ran out to investigate. I found that Ingram Spark encouraged authors to use 200% cost for library pricing as a starting point and in some cases up to 400% for library pricing.
You’ll find a pricing strategy that works for you. At this time, I’m going forward with the 2X pricing guide from Ingram Spark, but Eric has sold his books into over 200 branches and his advise was to offer distinct discounts to entice purchases. I’ll keep you posted on my outcomes in the coming weeks.
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