
Ep. 155 The Butterfly Story: An Interview with Dr. John Martin
09/20/21 • 56 min
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We talk with Vascular Surgeon John Martin about his entrepreneurial journey to becoming CMO of Butterfly Network, Inc., and their mission to revolutionize medical imaging and medical education.
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In this installment of the BackTable Innovation Series, Dr. John Martin, Chief Medical Officer of Butterfly Network, and our host Dr. Bryan Hartley discuss Dr. Martin’s work in clinical software development, nonprofit efforts, and the revolutionary Ultrasound-on-Chip technology.
Dr. Martin traces his entrepreneurial journey back to his vascular surgery fellowship years, when he developed software programs to automate risk stratification and track patient outcomes. He emphasizes that it is important to take risks and “bet on yourself” when you know that your product can bring benefits to patients and physicians.
Dr. Martin also advises listeners to be open to partnerships with larger companies who can bring their ideas to fruition. This collaborative mindset brought him into the nonprofit world, where he worked with industry and government leaders to found a free cardiovascular screening initiative called Dare to CARE.
In his current role at Butterfly Network, Dr. Martin aims to make bedside ultrasound care affordable and accessible to all patients across the globe. He highlights the fact that the portable Butterfly probe has been successfully employed in contexts such as medical education, the COVID response, and his own cancer diagnosis. Overall, Dr. Martin believes that ultrasound access will benefit all medical specialties and help physicians make more efficient and informed clinical decisions.
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RESOURCES
The Butterfly Network: https://www.butterflynetwork.com/
Dare to CARE: http://www.daretocare.us/
We talk with Vascular Surgeon John Martin about his entrepreneurial journey to becoming CMO of Butterfly Network, Inc., and their mission to revolutionize medical imaging and medical education.
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Medtronic AV DCB
https://www.medtronic.com/avdcb
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SHOW NOTES
In this installment of the BackTable Innovation Series, Dr. John Martin, Chief Medical Officer of Butterfly Network, and our host Dr. Bryan Hartley discuss Dr. Martin’s work in clinical software development, nonprofit efforts, and the revolutionary Ultrasound-on-Chip technology.
Dr. Martin traces his entrepreneurial journey back to his vascular surgery fellowship years, when he developed software programs to automate risk stratification and track patient outcomes. He emphasizes that it is important to take risks and “bet on yourself” when you know that your product can bring benefits to patients and physicians.
Dr. Martin also advises listeners to be open to partnerships with larger companies who can bring their ideas to fruition. This collaborative mindset brought him into the nonprofit world, where he worked with industry and government leaders to found a free cardiovascular screening initiative called Dare to CARE.
In his current role at Butterfly Network, Dr. Martin aims to make bedside ultrasound care affordable and accessible to all patients across the globe. He highlights the fact that the portable Butterfly probe has been successfully employed in contexts such as medical education, the COVID response, and his own cancer diagnosis. Overall, Dr. Martin believes that ultrasound access will benefit all medical specialties and help physicians make more efficient and informed clinical decisions.
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RESOURCES
The Butterfly Network: https://www.butterflynetwork.com/
Dare to CARE: http://www.daretocare.us/
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Ep. 154 Discussing the Complications Survey Results with The BackTable Team
The BackTable hosts get together to discuss the results of the recent complications survey, including some stories from the audience as well some of their own experiences.
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Two months ago, we invited our listeners to participate in an anonymous Complications Survey. Our goal was to encourage open and honest conversations about procedural complications and what we can learn from them. In this episode, our BackTable hosts conduct a roundtable discussion about the results of the survey and share their personal experiences with complications.
The hosts start with distinguishing between complications from high-risk procedures and unexpected complications that arise in healthy individuals, noting that the latter type takes a larger toll on an IR. They emphasize the important role of case selection in minimizing complications and how each of them presents complication risks to patients during the informed consent process.
Next, the hosts read through complication stories that respondents submitted. Each host also shares stories about the aftermath of their own complications and how to communicate these to patients, families, and referring doctors.
Finally, we highlight an important survey finding: 76% of respondents do not think that complications are discussed enough among endovascular and interventional specialists. In the future, we hope to bring more attention to procedural complications and share advice on how we can collectively minimize risks for our patients and support each other in dealing with complications.
We would like to give special thanks to all of our BackTable community members who submitted their insights on complications! If you have a show topic or guest suggestion on the subject of dealing with or preventing complications, reach out to us on our website or social media.
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RESOURCES
BackTable Ep. 54: Coping with Procedure Complications:
https://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/podcasts/45/coping-with-procedure-complications
“Doctors and Litigation: The L Word” Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doctors-and-litigation-the-l-word/id1469155084
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Ep. 156 Percutaneous Lung Biopsies Part I: The Basics and Tips/Tricks with Dr. Fred Lee
We start off Part 1 of a 2 part series with Dr. Fred Lee discussing Percutaneous Lung Biopsy Technique, with tips and tricks to help your daily practice.
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In this episode, Dr. Fred Lee and our host Dr. Chris Beck discuss tips for achieving safe and successful percutaneous lung biopsies.
They start by discussing the increasing popularity of core biopsy (as opposed to fine needle aspiration), since an adequate amount of specimen is needed for genetic testing and personalized medicine. Dr. Lee emphasizes that knowing the goals of lung biopsy for each individual patient helps him decide how much specimen to collect and how the specimen should be handled.
Next, Dr. Lee walks through his lung biopsy technique. He outlines the difference between conventional CT and CT with fluoroscopy. While CT with fluoroscopy can be more efficient, it poses radiation risk to the patient and the physician. To minimize radiation risks, he advises IRs to intermittently tap the foot pedal and stand lateral to the CT scanner. The doctors also discuss some of the trickiest lung regions to biopsy and ways to avoid pneumothorax.
Finally, Dr. Lee comments on the choice between percutaneous lung biopsies and electromagnetic navigation bronchoscopy, noting that each procedure has different advantages and risks. He encourages interventional radiologists and interventional pulmonologists to explore these options and take evidence-based approaches.
Throughout this episode, we cite data from Dr. Lee’s previous publications, which are cited below.
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RESOURCES
Percutaneous Lung Biopsy with Pleural and Parenchymal Blood Patching: Results and Complications from 1,112 Core Biopsies:
https://www.jvir.org/article/S1051-0443(21)01202-1/fulltext
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