
Bitcoin and the Future of Decentralized Finance
03/31/21 • 50 min
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Meltem Demirors, Chief Strategy Officer at CoinShares, joins Azeem Azhar to explore the potential and politics of cryptocurrencies: from the ideological origins of Bitcoin to the new wave of decentralized financial products that could disrupt traditional finance.
They also discuss:
- Why the values of the Cypherpunk community are enshrined in Bitcoin’s design.
- How the Decentralized Finance movement is re-imagining existing products on blockchain networks.
- If Bitcoin will ever break out of its niche to become a widely used currency.
@Melt_Dem
@azeem
@ExponentialView
Further resources:
- “Is the financial establishment coming round to bitcoin?” (The Economist, 2021)
- “Get ready for self-driving banks” (Financial Times, 2021)
- “The Redecentralized Web” (Exponential View podcast, 2020)
- “Politics, Power & Protocols” (Meltem Demirors, CoinShares 2019)
Meltem Demirors, Chief Strategy Officer at CoinShares, joins Azeem Azhar to explore the potential and politics of cryptocurrencies: from the ideological origins of Bitcoin to the new wave of decentralized financial products that could disrupt traditional finance.
They also discuss:
- Why the values of the Cypherpunk community are enshrined in Bitcoin’s design.
- How the Decentralized Finance movement is re-imagining existing products on blockchain networks.
- If Bitcoin will ever break out of its niche to become a widely used currency.
@Melt_Dem
@azeem
@ExponentialView
Further resources:
- “Is the financial establishment coming round to bitcoin?” (The Economist, 2021)
- “Get ready for self-driving banks” (Financial Times, 2021)
- “The Redecentralized Web” (Exponential View podcast, 2020)
- “Politics, Power & Protocols” (Meltem Demirors, CoinShares 2019)
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@scottfarkas
@azeem
@ExponentialView
Further resources:
- “Empowering Workers in the Digital Future” (Exponential View podcast, 2020)
- “WFH Doesn’t Have to Dilute Your Corporate Culture” (Harvard Business Review, 2021)
- “Picking the Right Approach to Digital Collaboration” (MIT Sloan, 2021)
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In addition, they address:
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@IonQ_Inc
@azeem
@ExponentialView
Further Reading:
- “Building A Quantum Computer with Light” (Exponential View podcast featuring Jeremy O’Brien, 2021)
- “Quantum computing’s next trick? The power of networked clusters” (Peter Chapman in Wired, 2021)
- “Commercialising quantum computers” (The Economist, 2020)
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