Angie Ward
03/30/23 • 57 min
Welcome to the At Sea Podcast. I'm your host, Justin McRoberts. What does it mean to lead well? Heck, what does it even mean to lead period? And specifically, what does it mean to lead and lead well, in a religious context, when we talk about ministry, we talk about Church we talk about religious culture in general. Nowadays, the question of what good healthy leadership looks like might be the most important conversation on the table when it comes to the "Future of the American church and American religion." It's a conversation that Angie Ward has been in for a long time, and had some poignant thoughts, not only in her books but in podcasts and interviews like this one, I really enjoyed the clarity and the confidence and the humility with which Angie Ward approaches conversations about what it looks like to not just lead but to lead well. I enjoyed this conversation. I think you will also.
Check it out.
Links for Angie Ward
Website - www.angieward.net
Links For Justin:
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
NEW Book - Sacred Strides (Pre-order)
It Is What You Make it
Hearts and Minds Amazon Barnes and Noble
Links For Justin:
Coaching with Justin
Order In Rest - New Book of Poems
Order In The Low - NEW Book with Scott Erickson
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
The Book - It Is What You Make it
Welcome to the At Sea Podcast. I'm your host, Justin McRoberts. What does it mean to lead well? Heck, what does it even mean to lead period? And specifically, what does it mean to lead and lead well, in a religious context, when we talk about ministry, we talk about Church we talk about religious culture in general. Nowadays, the question of what good healthy leadership looks like might be the most important conversation on the table when it comes to the "Future of the American church and American religion." It's a conversation that Angie Ward has been in for a long time, and had some poignant thoughts, not only in her books but in podcasts and interviews like this one, I really enjoyed the clarity and the confidence and the humility with which Angie Ward approaches conversations about what it looks like to not just lead but to lead well. I enjoyed this conversation. I think you will also.
Check it out.
Links for Angie Ward
Website - www.angieward.net
Links For Justin:
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
NEW Book - Sacred Strides (Pre-order)
It Is What You Make it
Hearts and Minds Amazon Barnes and Noble
Links For Justin:
Coaching with Justin
Order In Rest - New Book of Poems
Order In The Low - NEW Book with Scott Erickson
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
The Book - It Is What You Make it
Previous Episode
Jenai Auman
If you are around or in conversations about mental health for much time at all, you probably hear the word trauma used relatively often. And if you are in or around conversations at the intersection of mental health and religious life, you'll probably hear the phrase church trauma, or religious trauma used, at least as regularly. Those conversations can be really tricky, can be really difficult, and also can be really necessary. Some of the most helpful voices in those conversations, at least that I've come across, aren't even necessarily folks trained as therapists or even working as pastors. Some of the most helpful folks in conversations about church trauma are those who have experienced it, have done the work in their own hearts, minds, and communities, and then are speaking back into some of those spaces, not even just correctively. But both correctively and compassionately, a lot of what I've enjoyed and benefited from with regards to Janai Auman's work is that posture that she's remarkably articulate, and she is abundantly clear about the places lines have been crossed about the abuse of power in church leadership. She is also speaking from a place of hope. I really enjoyed this conversation with her, and I think you will as well.
Check it out.
Links for Jenai Auman
Website - https://www.jenaiauman.com
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jenaiauman/
Links For Justin:
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
NEW Book - Sacred Strides (Pre-order)
It Is What You Make it
Hearts and Minds Amazon Barnes and Noble
Links For Justin:
Coaching with Justin
Order In Rest - New Book of Poems
Order In The Low - NEW Book with Scott Erickson
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
The Book - It Is What You Make it
Next Episode
Jess Ray
Welcome to the At Sea podcast. I'm your host, Justin McRoberts. I met Jess Ray a number of years ago at a conference where she was helping to lead songs and realize there was some of her music that I had heard before. Maybe you had that experience where you're paying attention to someone or something, you hear something and you realize, like, oh my gosh, this is already in my system. I'm already a fan of this. Well, having already been a fan of her music, just by nature of the songs themselves, then watching her engage with people. In the art of song-leading, I was locked in as a lifetime fan. I really like what Jess Ray does musically. I also really liked the way she goes about doing it. When I return to this theme over and over that art is anything we create that forges a connection between people. I think about people like Jess Ray, who really is actually about that connection, who pays attention to the connection, who senses that connection in herself. You'll hear that in the conversation. And I think you'll feel that in the worksheet as if you're not already familiar with it. So check out this conversation. I think you'll dig it.
Links for Jess Ray
Website - www.jessray.com
Links For Justin:
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
NEW Book - Sacred Strides (Pre-order)
It Is What You Make it
Hearts and Minds Amazon Barnes and Noble
Links For Justin:
Coaching with Justin
Order In Rest - New Book of Poems
Order In The Low - NEW Book with Scott Erickson
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
The Book - It Is What You Make it
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