As Told By Nomads

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My guest today on As Told by Nomads is Michael Unbroken, an advocate for adult survivors of child abuse. Michael is a life coach, international speaker, and author of four books, including Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma. His own experience of trauma began in childhood, when his mother cut off his index finger, and continued through being abused by his stepfather, adopted by his racist grandmother, and getting into drugs and alcohol as a coping mechanism. Michael finally began to recover from his trauma after nearly committing suicide at the age of twenty-six and deciding that he had to make changes in his life. His mission is to end generational trauma in his lifetime through education and information so that another kid doesn’t have a story like his. In today’s episode, we discuss different ways to navigate trauma, what trauma is, and the complexity that comes from figuring out how to heal.

We then move the conversation to Michael’s own experience with trauma, starting with his mother’s shocking violence. He takes us through his journey from his family’s abuse to being expelled from school at fifteen for dealing drugs and finding professional and financial success only to realize his lingering unhappiness. Michael discusses the lowest point of his life, his attempted suicide, and his subsequent choice to change his life, bringing him to his current success and fulfillment. And, as always, I end the episode with my mission statement question: how does Michael use his difference to make a difference? Michael responds that he does it by showing up, having honest conversations, and being willing to suffer public embarrassment because he doesn’t care what you think about him, so long as he can look in the mirror and be okay with the reflection.

Episode Highlights:

• How Michael defines trauma
• Learning the tools to navigate life with trauma
• Using self-awareness to find clarity and meaning
• Michael’s history with trauma
• Hitting rock bottom and rising up
• Having the courage to seek out support and community
• Michael’s Think Unbroken programs
• Shifting to a mindset of kindness
• Surrounding yourself with the right people
• How Michael uses his difference to make a difference

Links:

Michael's website: https://www.thinkunbroken.com/

Michael's podcast: https://www.thinkunbrokenpodcast.com/

Michael's book: https://book.thinkunbroken.com/

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On today’s episode, I’m joined by Peter Desberg, clinical psychologist and co-author of the book Pitch Like Hollywood, which shows you how to use the elements that sell classic Hollywood pitches in your life. Peter is a Professor Emeritus at California State University and recipient of the Distinguished Teacher Award and the Outstanding Professor Award. He is the author of twenty-three books and has been quoted in such publications as The Wall Street Journal, Psychology Today, and The New York Times. He has also consulted for companies including Apple, Boeing, and Toyota in the areas of pitching persuasion and corporate presentations. Peter’s here today to talk about pitching with the power of Hollywood, overcoming stage fright, and using storytelling to make yourself more persuasive.

We begin with Peter discussing how Hollywood pitches use emotion, instead of dry data and statistics, to hook people’s attention and then employ a three-act structure to keep them engaged. He then demonstrates how the same elements can be used in any industry to create persuasive and engaging pitches and gives some tips on how to get an audience’s attention. I then ask Peter about stage fright—his clinical specialty—and he discusses the factors that cause it and how fear is the common driver behind it. Moving on, we talk about the Hollywood numbers game, professional influencers, and how social media has reduced the value of a person to how many followers they have. And finally, Peter answers my favorite question to ask guests, about how he uses his difference to make a difference, stating that his mission is to help people with great ideas be heard in a world where not-so-good ideas are being listened to way too much.

Episode Highlights:

• The psychology of persuasion and building credibility
• The emotional power of a Hollywood pitch
• The three-act pitch
• Stage fright and finding confidence
• The predictors of stage fright
• The Hollywood numbers game
• Influencers and the psychology of a person’s value
• The importance of storytelling
• Pitching as a conversation
• Peter’s co-writer Jeffrey Davis and the art of collaboration
• Conflict in storytelling
• How Peter uses his difference to make a difference

Links:

Pitch Like Hollywood: https://desbergdavis.com/product/pitch-like-hollywood/

Connect with Tayo Rockson and the As Told By Nomads Podcast on:

Personal Website: https://tayorockson.com

UYD Management: https://uydmanagement.com/

UYD Collective: https://tayorockson.com/uyd-collective

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tayorockson

Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast

Twitter: https://twitter.com/TayoRockson

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In today’s episode of the As Told by Nomads Podcast, join me and my guest, Netta Jenkins, as we talk about how sharing our experiences can impact how we educate others. Netta is an acclaimed author, diversity and inclusion executive, and the co-founder of Dipper. This platform guides professionals of color to better workplaces one review at a time, whether good, bad, or indifferent. Today, she shares with us her journey, from her previous awakening from systematic oppression to her current actions dismantling it. If you want to participate in Netta’s collective, check out her company website in the links below!

Collective Power And A Chance To Speak

For a long time, people of color have often been afraid to share their experiences with systematic oppression, whether in the education system or the workplace. But with the recent movement in black media and the rise of anti-blackness, people started to create safe spaces to share their experiences. As a result, more are coming out, owning what is going on, and taking a stand. Yes, we still need to earn money but in the end, our lives, and the lives of others like us, still matter more. Hence, we tend to share our experiences with others like us, keeping them from dangerous situations while guiding them to better solutions. Here, we raise a level of power, the kind of power only a collective can achieve. Take professionals of color in the workplace, for example. While they do have a seat at the table, they do not always have a chance to speak out because they are both outnumbered and undervalued. Hence, whether we are a part of a marginalized group or not, we still need to either facilitate a safe space for them to contribute ourselves or hold organizations accountable for not doing so themselves.

Outline of the episode:

[03:09] What led Netta to tackle systemic oppression and racism.

[06:18] How guilt propelled her to fight for people, especially marginalized groups.

[08:08] Netta’s path to becoming a Diversity and Inclusion executive.

[10:27] How the proximity to leadership is vital in dismantling systems of oppression.

[11:54] The recent movement within black media on a global scale and the rise of anti-blackness.

[15:22] What Dipper is and how it can help professionals of color navigate the job hunting space.

[18:14] The need to give qualified professionals of color the chance to speak out and contribute to organizations.

[20:46] Collective power and how sharing experiences can impact how we educate others in any field.

[22:00] How Netta finds the time to be a DI executive, a co-founder, and a mother.

[24:18] The difference between ‘Diversity & Inclusion’ and ‘Anti-Racism.’

[27:06] Where people can interact with Dipper and how they share the platform.

[27:55] How Netta Jenkins uses her difference to make a difference.

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On day 9 of #LetsTalkBias, we tackle equity in media. I share three prompts to reflect on.

Don’t forget to share your stories and actions.

Use your DIFFERENCE to make a DIFFERENCE.

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