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Art Grind Podcast

Dina Brodsky, Marshall Jones, Sophia Kayafas and Tun Myaing

Art Grind is a podcast for and about artists, art lovers and art professionals. It is a social practice of giving back to the art community of which we are a part and explores the process, content, concept and motivation behind art making of both established and emerging artists and the people who bring that art to a wider audience. We are artists ourselves and wear many hats, including curation, art writing and art teaching. We share a passion for authentic and skilled art making, be it trained or self-taught. Whether in the studio, on your lunch hour or chilling out after a long day of hustle, have a listen while we explore, along with our guests, the backstories of what we fondly call “the art grind”.

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What’s the difference between an artist, an engineer, an architect, and a contractor? For Nicolas Holiber, there isn’t one! Nicolas is a compelling sculptor and painter whose practice blurs the lines between the two using mediums such as acrylic paste, tar, oil paint, plaster, reclaimed wood, hardware, and even beeswax. He not only plays with the technicality of surface, but the idea of surface itself. His love for materiality and experimentation focuses on merging his tactile interests with content and narrative packed full of thought provoking ephemerality. Listen in, and let Nic's tranquil composure give you an idea of who “The Bird Guy” really is.
"Art is the only thing that makes me feel unstable; but it’s also the only thing that really makes me feel like I have a purpose; that gives me that sense of life.” -Nicolas Holiber
Show Notes:
1:30 - Artist to look out for:
Matthew Monahan, Mark Rothko, Marisol Escobar, David Altmejd, Thomas Houseago, Huma Bhabha
16:23 - Painting is an artifice
20:55 - Nicolas’ work
24:30 - Birds on Broadway
29:27 - Difference between an artist, an architect and a contractor.
40:27 - Hooded Merganser
43:45 - Quality
51:49 - Double crested Cormorant
53:30 - New York City Audubon
58:50 - Alice Waters interview
1:04:06 - BREAK
1:05 - Nico Handmade Stretchers - Use the promo code GRIND to receive 10% off the entire order
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1:10:00 - Painting from a sculptor’s point of view
1:24:45 - Failing to win
1:28:29 - Henry Darger
1:32:50 - Paralegal to artist
1:51:44 - Huma Bhabha
1:53:03 - Thomas Houseago
1:54:03 - Glitter and Doom exhibition
Bonus Questions
1:55:43 - Is Ultramarineblue cool or warm?
1:57:27 - What makes a great painting?
2:04:45 - Messages from our listeners
Nicola's Current/Upcoming shows:
“Keep for Old Memoirs” at Young Space. Curated by Kate Mothes (founder Young Space) and Celine Mo (VICTORI+MO Gallery).
21 May - 7 June, 2020
“Drawn Together” at Unit London. 4 June - 12 July, 2020

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In this episode, Marshall and Sophia speak with Seattle based painter Aleah Chapin. Aleah’s ability to paint so candidly about the natural and intimate relationships she witnesses in her life is profoundly multidimensional. She is an incredible technical flesh whiz with a contemporary edge that gives her portraits and figures of women a sense of vivid presence and beauty. Aleah was extremely generous and open with us about her life, process, technique, and her experiences in the art world. Listen in as we speak with her about a creative journey toward letting go and trusting her own intuition.
Born in 1986, Aleah Chapin grew up on an island north of Seattle, Washington. She received her BFA from Cornish College of the Arts in 2009 and her MFA from the New York Academy of Art in 2012. Aleah has attended residencies at the Leipzig International Art Programme in Germany and the MacDowell Colony in New Hampshire. Recent exhibitions have included the 2016 Invitational Exhibition of Visual Arts, American Academy of Arts and Letters, New York; The Ingram Collection: Bodies, Woking, UK and a solo show, Within Wilds at Flowers Gallery, London. She has been a recipient of the Willard L. Metcalf Award in Art from the American Academy of Arts and Letters, the Posey Foundation Scholarship, the Elizabeth Greenshields Foundation Grant, a Postgraduate Fellowship from the New York Academy of Art, and won the BP Portrait Award at the National Portrait Gallery in London in 2012.
Show notes:
2:15 -
BP Portrait award
2:45 - What Happens at the Edge
6:15 - We Held the Mountains on Our Shoulders
11:30 - The (Un)fair Art Show
17:22 - The Overstory
38:07 - And it Caught Fire
40:07 - A Painted Life
43:03 - Scale
58:11 - BREAK
59:00 - Baba Yaga
1:33:00 - Remains
1:39:00 - Natropath
1:42:00 - Gus Storm
1:45:35 - Our Shouts Were Drowned In The Stars

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Bonus episode of interviews from gallery openings in Chelsea.
Shout out to
Fredrik Björeman the developer of Podcast Chapters who's helping me bring you images with each chapter on the podcast so you can see the artwork that's discussed in the episode with links.
Episode notes:
Noho M55 Gallery "Made in Japan 2020" Curated by Arisa Itami Feb 4-15, 2020
Balla Kouyaté
Davidson Gallery "Under a Concrete Sky" by Purvis Young. Feb 6 - Mar 21 2020
Laurence Miller Gallery "Body Of Evidence" Feb 6 - Mar 21 2020
Onishi Gallery "Kaede Five Winds" Feb 4 - 11 2020
David Krut Projects "SEED" by Judi Harvest - Feb 6 - Mar 20, 2020
Judi Harvest
First Street Gallery "Semantic Net" by Kyung Tae Kim Feb 6 -Feb 22, 2020
Fergus McCaffrey Gallery "Mercer Street" Feb 6 - Apr 25, 2020
Shigeko Kubota "Duchampiana: Bicycle Wheel One, Two, and Three, 1983"
The Phenomenal Rug (not actual title) by Marcia Hafif
Greene Naftali Gallery "The Fairy Godmother" by Mathieu Malouf "Feb 6 - Mar 7, 2020
Mark Miller Gallery "Tell Them Stories" curated by Marshall Jones and Tun Myaing

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In this episode of Art Grind, hosts Dina Brodsky, Marshall Jones, and Tun Myaing road trip to interview artists Alex Kanevsky and Hollis Heichemer in New Hampshire. With the faint sound of crickets setting the stage, Alex and Hollis speak about their different paths to becoming artists and how thought, experience, memory, and painting converge—usually as the same thing. Though Alex paints more representationally and views painting more as investigation, whereas Hollis paints more abstractly and views painting more as insight, they share their “curate[d] life” in agreement that “painting never ends.” Tune in not just for Art Grind’s first episode interviewing two artists simultaneously, but also for an episode which proves as frank as it is profound.
Show Notes:
1:15 A word from our sponsor:
New York Academy of Art - Peter Drake (Provost) & John Volk (Director of Continuing Studies)

13:14: Show begins

16:20 : Hollis’ background

19:00: Alex’s background

35:20: How Alex & Hollis function as an artist couple

38:05: What motivates Hollis to paint

45:30: What motivates Alex to paint

52:30: Alex on artist statements

1:02:30: A typical day in the studio

1:09:00: How Hollis’ paintings become her own

1:10:50: How the outside world influences Alex & Hollis

1:16:05-1:16:15: Break

1:16:20: Alex on deconstruction in his work

1:24:50: Hollis on what makes a good painting

1:26:50: Hollis on J.M.W. Turner & Mark Rothko

1:31:10: Alex on models as studio company

1:35:45: Alex’s satisfaction with his work

1:36:34: Hollis’ satisfaction with her work

1:39:55: Hollis’ advice to young artists

1:43:10: Alex on William Carlos Williams

1:45:55: Alex & Hollis on the Charles DeMuth Museum

1:49:00: Dina on The Waking by Theodore Roethke

1:55:12: End credits
Learn more about Alex Kanevsky by visiting his Website or by following him on Instagram
Learn more about Hollis Heichemer by visiting her Website or by following her on Instagram
Alex Kanevsky’s Recent/Upcoming Exhibitions:

Scrambling for Grace,
The Dolby Chadwick Gallery
October 1st-31st, 2020
Hollis Heichemer’s Recent/Upcoming Exhibitions:

Happenstance, Hollis Taggart
April 4th-May 4th, 2019
Lonely Man by Hazmat Modine, courtesy Wade Schuman
Give us a call on our Art Grind Podcast hotline and tell us what's on your mind!

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