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Art Dealer Show - Jeff Jaffe
Art Dealer Show
03/09/16 • 66 min
Jeff Jaffe owner of Pop International Galleries speaks with Danny Stern about fleeing the apartheid as young man in South Africa, and the journey that set him on before launching a career in the gallery world. Today Jaffe is know as one of New York’s leading dealers of Pop art. Over the past two decades his Soho gallery has become a fixture in the community. From overcoming the impact 911 to growing from the market drop of 2008 Jaffe talks about the keys to longevity in the art business.

What in the Gallery Is Telling Them Not to Buy from You? - Guest Richard Perry, Part II
Art Dealer Show
07/11/17 • 53 min
Richard Perry owner of Centaur Galleries.
How about this for a show tease? An Andy Warhol painting changes the lives of a civil servant’s family forever, Dali’s pet ocelot gets out of control, and the chance encounter of a 19 year old and a famous eccentric millionaire made gallery history in Las Vegas.
Now if that does not have you hooked for an hour of listening than this podcast will never be for you. But if it has, I’m thrilled to welcome you back for part two of our conversation with Richard (Dick to his friends) Perry.
In our first episode, we learned how the government seizing every penny a young Perry had led him to taking a key role in what would eventually become a gallery dynasty — and the great stories that came from those early days at Merrill Chase Galleries. (listen to episode one) This episode picks up in the second chapter of Richard’s career as we follow him to Las Vegas where he opens Centaur Galleries, the first major art gallery on the strip.
But before we jump into all of that, I’d like to buy you a drink and bend your ear a bit over at the Ol’ Art Dealer Lounge. This week I’ve been thinking about how two hundred years of our frontal lobe evolution, and the answer to why you should never order a cocktail at a bar with plastic pourer tops, may be the reason that some people didn’t buy that big painting from you. If nothing else, it’s worth seeing how I dig myself out of that cryptic set up...
Cheers
Danny Stern
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Art Santa Fe – a Redwood Media Group show
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Richard Perry – Owner of Centaur Gallery, Las Vegas NV:
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21- Are Millennials Not Buying Art, Or Just Not From You? - Guest Ruth-Ann Thorn Pt 1
Art Dealer Show
08/16/17 • 54 min
Ruth-Ann Thorn, Owner of Exclusive Collections
To be a seasoned art dealer is to have taken some knocks over the years. There’s just no way around it. Stay in the business beyond the length of a college internship and you’re going to get some scrapes on your skin and soul. Slide back the cuffs and hems of the designer suits and dresses worn by those of us who have made it to the top, and you will see the well-earned scars from battles won and lost.
Despite this, it’s not the occasional backwards drag through the thorny bushes that makes our business challenging. It’s that, despite this, our craft demands that that we always have a smile for a collector walking in the front door. That even in our darkest moments we need to be living in the moment of the best day of our charmed careers.
Now I’m not saying we are a beaten and cynical lot — far from it. As someone who talks to dozens of art-selling folk every week, that’s not the case at all. Heck, you could not pull off this schizoid performance if, at your core, you weren’t relentlessly optimistic. I’m just saying that we’re...complicated. And not without our dark sides.
Perhaps that’s why, when I came out to Exclusive Collections’ San Diego gallery location to record a conversation with their CEO and owner Ruth-Ann Thorn, it took me a moment to get my bearings. Ruth-Ann always seems to find her way to the positive, no matter how frustrating the topic or painful the tale. No matter how much I personally pushed, poked and tried to chisel away at that candy shell, I just kept on finding more of the same positivity. And it pissed me off almost as much as it endeared me to her.
Ruth-Ann has been through her wars too. In some ways, much more so than many others. And she is always willing to admit how hard things are. She just refuses to take on the negative when there is a choice. During the first part of our two-part conversation, we spent a lot of time discussing one of the most difficult topics for us in the art biz: Whether or not the next generation entering into what has typically been the art-buying age will actually be buying art. We considered that maybe they will but just not in a way we are able to sell it. Or maybe they just won’t be buying from us in particular.
A conversation like this will mostly get you lot of deep breaths and pained looks into the middle distance from just about any art dealer I know. But not Ruth-Ann. It almost felt like she was not only unafraid, she was actually excited to take it on — to figure out and win the greatest challenge facing the gallery world today.
She’s a fabulously annoying bundle of art-selling optimism.
Cheers.
Danny Stern
Sponsors:
Art World News
Relavent Communications
Art Santa Fe – a Redwood Media Group show
Guest:
Ruth-Ann Thorn, CEO and owner of Exclusive Collections:
San Diego • Beverly Hills • Las Vegas • Laguna Beach
(619) 238-0320
www.ecgallery.com
https://www.facebook.com/ecgalleries
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06/20/17 • 61 min
Art Broker Dewey Graff with Artist Tom Everhart.
From day one, it was a goal of the show to talk as many different types of art sellers as we could get on the mic—from art consultants working the floor of a mall gallery to the jet set industry movers who make headlines. Which certainly includes the art brokers who find their own place in odd shaped spaces in-between and my guest, Dewey Graff, is about as perfect a representative of this territory of art dealing as I can think of.
Dewey Graff is one of those people who has found a couple square feet to stand on that was never declared before and staked a flag in it. And once he chooses to step off of it, there will be a permanent Dewey-sized footprint—one that will never be filled by anyone who comes along afterwards.
Back in the 1990’s, Graff identified a piece of virtual retail real-estate which millionaires walk by every day: The Robb Report. For over two decades, his ad has run every month without fail in this high-rent print neighborhood and through this ad Graff has met the people who live the high-flying lifestyle described in its pages.
However, meeting people of this caliber is a far cry from selling to them. Over many years, Graff has refined his already bigger-than-life selling personality to leap over some major obstacles: not having a gallery and the credibility that comes with that, along with typically never being anything more than a voice on the phone may have be impossible to overcome for some. But Graff somehow found a way to make these work in his favor and to understand how, you’ll just have to listen to this episode.
As always, I’ll take a moment of my own to offer my cocktail-fueled stories on the art world: this week a call from a fellow art dealer who is lamenting how her biggest client running short on wall space may spell the end of a great thing. Which reminds me of one of the earliest and biggest lessons I learned in the art biz—making sure that the collectors know that they are the COLLECTOR. And all that entails.
Cheers.
Danny Stern
Show Host and Producer
Sponsors:
Art World News
Relavent Communications
Art Expo New York
Guest:
Dewey Graff – Owner of Dewey Graff Fine Art Inc.
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Bridgette Mayer: A Personal Tale Of Survival and Redemption
Art Dealer Show
12/21/16 • 71 min
Gallery owner and author Bridgette Mayer
Gallery
Many are calling 2016 a year of loss. If it was not a presidential candidate for you, it was at least Prince, Bowie and of course Leonard Cohen. As much as I’m personally saddened by our loss of them and many others, I am grateful for at least one thing–I got to launch The Art Dealer Show. And I want to thank you and everyone else who helped breathe life into it.
Our podcast is not even a full year old and already a community of art-selling professionals has clearly begun to take shape. Not only in numbers but outright support.
From the beginning, my biggest hope for the show was that it would become the proverbial water cooler where we could all gather around. A place where we could be reminded that, even though we are scattered around the world in our respective galleries, offices and studios, we are still connected by the work we do, the things that drive us and the similar challenges we face. And by meeting each other and getting to share our stories, ideas and even questions, we’d gain a better understanding of who we collectively are.
Art Cure: A Memoir of Abuse and Fortune.
Our guest for this week’s episode Bridgette Mayer is a perfect example of this. Bridgette has just release her first book of what I know will be many Art Cure: A Memoir of Abuse and Fortune. It’s a candid autobiography that explains how young girl who came through social services and foster care ended up in the art world with a multi-million dollar gallery and consulting business. This is an inspirational tale about how a life that started with gross neglect and violent abuse ultimately ended in personal redemption as one of Philadelphia’s most celebrated gallery owners.
As always I’ll hold court for a bit from my usual corner booth, in the back of the ol’ art dealer bar. Having just come back from a little tour of some of the galleries that show my art in Hawaii, I’m still a bit high on a mixture of Mai Tais and getting to meet some great art dealers. And while the buzz is still fresh, I’m going to share some thoughts about what I that our real job is as art sellers. Just a little tip, it rhymes with shoe-missness... I think I might need to slow down a bit on those drinks...
Cheers.
Danny Stern
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Art World News
Relavent Communications
Redwood Media Group
Art Expo 2017
Guest:
Bridgette Mayer, owner of:
Bridgette Mayer Gallery
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Tony Pernicone - An Odyssey in the Art Business.
Art Dealer Show
12/01/16 • 87 min
Tony Pernicone Owner of Avanti Fine Arts
I’ve alway been fond of the cautionary words from an unknown sage – “choose your profession before it chooses you.” These sobering words used to guid me as much as keep me up all night staring at the ceiling.
This week those words of wisdom have once again found their way back in to my head, as my business travels have returned me to the Hawaiian Islands to visit with some of my gallery accounts. While here I’ve been training many young art dealers on one of my artists during the day and by night I’ve been editing this new episode of the Art Dealer Show. And the juxtaposition of these fresh new art dealers with as little as a month or two of experience on the gallery floor in contrast to this episode’s guest Tony Pernicone, who has nearly forty years under his belt, could not be more striking.
Tony’s career in the art business is – like most of the greats I know – more of an odyssey than a CV. And while relistening describe his career that started in the entertainment world as an actor, folk musician and sit-com writer that led to a storied gallery career, I could not help by think this is someone who disproves the axiom that has haunted me for all these years.
Because often a career “finds you” but sometimes it’s a calling. And those are not the same things. For Tony I think it was the latter.
Tony Pernicone has been an art dealer since 1980, an appraiser since 1991 and an auctioneer since 1995.
He is an Accredited Senior Appraiser with the American Society of Appraisers; a Member of the National Auctioneers Association and the California State Auctioneers Association. He also currently serves on the Board of Directors of the Northern California Division of the American Society of Appraisers as the Discipline Director of the Personal Property Division.
He successfully participated in the Society’s mandatory Reaccreditation program and has complied with its continuing education requirements, as set forth in the organization Constitution, Bylaws and Administrative rules. Formal reaccreditation was granted by the International Board of Governors and is valid through January 9, 2014. He is currently acquiring the educational credits to reaccredit again at that time.
In 2004, as one of only two appraisers in the nation, he was asked to assist eBay.com in their efforts to weed out any fraudulent art. His responsibilities were to offer his opinion as to the authenticity of questionable works of art appearing for sale on eBay’s Internet auction site, and to help establish permanent guidelines and standards for any seller to list their art for auction. Considered one of the leading fine art appraisers in the country, he is also qualified, and has served as an expert witness in all fine art-related fields; He’s a published lecturer whose most recent articles were for the 2011 and 2012 Journal of Advanced Appraisal Studies, respectively titled, ” Beyond Auction Sales: Selecting Fine Art FMV Comparables”; and “Caveat Emptor! Fakes and Frauds at EBay and other Online Auction Sites.” He lectured on the same subject at the 75th International Appraisers Conference in Washington D.C. in August of 2011. Currently, he is working on an article regarding the value of “Art as an Investment”.
Sponsors:
Art World News
Relavent Communications
Redwood Media Group
Guest:
Tony Pernicone, owner of:
Avanti Fine Arts
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Allison Zucker-Perelman - “Oh, PR Girl, I don’t want to proceed a parrot”- Bernie Taupin
Art Dealer Show
07/26/16 • 93 min
Allison Zucker-Perelman with Mick Fleetwood on art show tour.
Our guest on this episode of the Art Dealer Show is not an art dealer, gallery owner or even an art broker but she is, without a doubt, a notable player in the world of art sales.
Allison Zucker-Perelman is a publicist who has set the standard for promotion in the art business for the past decade. Along the way she has worked with a list of artists, galleries and publishers which amounts to a who’s who in the biz. Jane Seymour, Dr. Seuss (Chase Art), Peter Max, Tom Everhart, Beanie Taupin, and Dali to name just few. All benchmarks of success stories of art marketing.
The challenges of promoting an artist, gallery or art event are unique and deceptively challenging. All of which makes finding an effective publicist one of the most stressful tasks any art dealer take on. Despite the fact that there is always a long list of publicists who are happy to take you on as client, very few understand that promotion in the art world is unlike any other. Even less will prove to be good at it. And next to none have done what Zucker-Perelman has in turning this specialty into an art of her own.
In our conversation we went far beyond the basics of discussing the basic best practices in using a publicist and explored the deeper underpinnings of what makes for a great art promotion. We got at the fundamental truths that are often missed: that this is showbiz at the end of the day, our job is to create events, and PR can be about 1,000 little things vs. one big hit.
If you’ve ever had the feeling that you’ve been throwing money at your PR and they’ve just been throwing darts into the media void, you’ll want to listen to this one from start to finish.
Cheers.
Danny Stern.
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The episode before the first episode.
Art Dealer Show
02/05/16 • 10 min
Your host Danny Stern introduces this new podcast – Art Dealer Show. The first show about people who sell art and for people who sell art.
At a time when the business of selling art is going through so many changes, it is probably the perfect moment that we look around at where we are now, where we came from and try to figure out where we may be going.
Through thing ongoing series of discussions with the art business icons, authorities and those who have simply lived in it long enough to have some solid wisdom, we hope to give some insight. Or at least a little something to consider.

02/22/17 • 81 min
The wait is over, and we are back with part II of my conversation with Bob Chase, president of Chase Art. And If you enjoyed part one as much as I did, I can assure you that this second chapter is as interesting as it is different from the first.
(if you didn’t hear part I, this is your chance)
Previously Bob and I talked about the early days in the street level gallery business when his father and grandfather first started Merrill Chase Galleries. In this episode, we move on to Bob’s own personal experiences in the gallery world. Including the inspiring story about his company’s early struggles getting the Dr. Sues art program started in its first years. And how he was able to bring it to become one of the most represented and collected published art programs in the market.
We also spent some time digging down to the roots of what makes for a great, or even just good, art dealer. And as often is the case, the answer is the ABCs of good selling – Always Be Challenging yourself. I know it’s hokey, but it’s also true.
Picking up where we left off with Bob is not the only unfinished business in this episode. We also pick up from where I left you hanging after our conversation at the ol’ art dealer bar.
In part I shared a story about an old gallery owner friend of mine, who late one night after binge listening to several of our podcasts, called me up to hit me with a question many gallery owners would like to ask someone “What should I do next?” And after doing my best to skirt around the question, I confessed that I don’t possess those visionary powers. Despite having the chutzpah to pontificate into the mic show after show. But I did declare I knew one thing for sure. That an answer is coming and there will be a new day for the gallery business. And then with that tease I promised I’d tell you how I know that for sure right after the ad-break.
And when we came back from that ad... (nothin’) Well I guess I owe you and everyone else an apology. I meant to. Really I did. What I really meant was when we return with this episode.
But now the time has come. And in this episode I finally do deliver on my promise to make my case.
(Yes, I just used a tease again...Shamelessly.)
Cheers.
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Bob Chase, President of:
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"Looking for weird people creating weird things" - Guest Ruth Ann Thorn - The other half.
Art Dealer Show
04/17/19 • 54 min
We are finally back with the second half of our conversation with San Diego gallerist Ruth Ann Thorn (Exclusive Collections). And maybe being a year and a half later you have concluded that the reason for the wait is because the second half was just more of the same. And if that’s you, prepare to be surprised.
I’ve heard lots of art dealers go on about how they need to find artists who are not just talented but are doing things their collectors have truly not seen before. And then wait for them to walk in the door, or hope to find them at the next art fair. But Ruth Anne does much more than keep her eyes open. She goes on the hunt.
Junkies, Schizoids, and Ex-Cons – oh my.
Listen to this new episode of the Art Dealer Show and find out what happens when a gallery owner makes a practice of placing ads on Craig’s list that start with “Looking for weird people creating weird things”. Follow her journey into Hollywood flops and other corners of the world no other art dealer I know is willing to brave, just to find their next artist.
But before we get into all that, a year and a half is a long time, particularly in today’s art world. So from our corner booth in the back of the ol’ art dealer bar, I gave Ruth Ann a call to check in and see what has been going on since we first spoke with her. And I’ll say this, it’s not a lot of same old – same old.
Ruth Anne has seen the changes coming come and like anyone who will survive to thrive, she’s adapting with the changing climate.
So slide on in, order yourself up the perfect tonic to carry you through the hour and join us.
Cheers.
Danny
Sponsors:
Art World News
Relavent Communications
Art Santa Fe – a Redwood Media Group show
Guest:
Ruth-Ann Thorn, CEO and owner of Exclusive Collections:
San Diego • Beverly Hills • Las Vegas • Laguna Beach
(619) 238-0320
www.ecgallery.com
https://www.facebook.com/ecgalleries
Us:
www.artdealer.show
[email protected]
@artdealershow
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How many episodes does Art Dealer Show have?
Art Dealer Show currently has 30 episodes available.
What topics does Art Dealer Show cover?
The podcast is about Visual Arts, Podcasts, Arts, Business and Careers.
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The average episode length on Art Dealer Show is 60 minutes.
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Episodes of Art Dealer Show are typically released every 27 days, 21 hours.
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The first episode of Art Dealer Show was released on Feb 5, 2016.
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