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Anything But Law - Bridging the Gap: The Realities of Practicing Law and Legal Education

Bridging the Gap: The Realities of Practicing Law and Legal Education

03/18/25 • 88 min

Anything But Law

In this special episode of Anything but Law, host Mark McAuley takes a rare deep dive into the realities of practicing law—exploring what law school doesn’t teach you but should. Joined by Lerners colleague Mitch Brown and Acting Dean Andrew Botterell from Western Law, the conversation unpacks the "hidden curriculum" of law school, the practical skills gap many young lawyers face, and how legal education prepares—or fails to prepare—graduates for the real-world demands of private practice.
Drawing on their own experiences, Mark and Mitch discuss their transition from Toronto to London, Ontario, and the differences in legal markets, firm structures, and mentorship opportunities. Acting Dean Botterell provides insights into the evolution of legal education and the growing role of technology, while Mitch and Mark reflect on the importance of practical training, mentorship, and the skills young lawyers need to succeed.
The episode also takes a candid look at mental health and burnout in the legal profession, why so many junior lawyers leave private practice within five years, and what can be done to improve retention, job satisfaction, and work-life balance. With engaging anecdotes, real-world insights, and a focus on solutions, this discussion is essential listening for law students, new lawyers, and anyone curious about the challenges of legal practice.
Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of the legal industry, the expectations of law firms, and how to navigate the transition from student to practicing lawyer with confidence.

Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Aaron Murray – Charterhouse Studios (Season 1,3), Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio (Season 2) Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley

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In this special episode of Anything but Law, host Mark McAuley takes a rare deep dive into the realities of practicing law—exploring what law school doesn’t teach you but should. Joined by Lerners colleague Mitch Brown and Acting Dean Andrew Botterell from Western Law, the conversation unpacks the "hidden curriculum" of law school, the practical skills gap many young lawyers face, and how legal education prepares—or fails to prepare—graduates for the real-world demands of private practice.
Drawing on their own experiences, Mark and Mitch discuss their transition from Toronto to London, Ontario, and the differences in legal markets, firm structures, and mentorship opportunities. Acting Dean Botterell provides insights into the evolution of legal education and the growing role of technology, while Mitch and Mark reflect on the importance of practical training, mentorship, and the skills young lawyers need to succeed.
The episode also takes a candid look at mental health and burnout in the legal profession, why so many junior lawyers leave private practice within five years, and what can be done to improve retention, job satisfaction, and work-life balance. With engaging anecdotes, real-world insights, and a focus on solutions, this discussion is essential listening for law students, new lawyers, and anyone curious about the challenges of legal practice.
Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of the legal industry, the expectations of law firms, and how to navigate the transition from student to practicing lawyer with confidence.

Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Aaron Murray – Charterhouse Studios (Season 1,3), Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio (Season 2) Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley

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Anything But Law - Bridging the Gap: The Realities of Practicing Law and Legal Education

Transcript

Mark McAuley

Welcome to another episode of Anything but Law , where we usually talk about anything but law . It's literally in the title , but today is different . We are actually going to talk about law , more specifically , the practice of law . Don't don't you dare change the channel or switch episodes . I'm looking at you , mike .

Mark McAuley

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