Episode 8: The Police Chiefs of NIU and DeKalb: Part 1

On this episode, I speak with Chief Tom Phillips of the NIU Police Department and Interim Chief of Police for the City of DeKalb, John Petragallo. We discuss their relationship with each other, to their communities, how they arrived at their positions and why did they go into police work in the first place. We are reminded how the city and the university are intricately linked, tied together, interdependent. Because of our lengthy and candid conversation, this podcast will actually be split up in two parts. Enjoy this first part.