
How to Lead in Times of Crisis with Christy Erbeck
07/31/20 • 38 min
Today on the podcast, Dan Neumann and Christy Erbeck are discussing how to lead in times of crisis and come out of it stronger than ever.
As a leader, it is critically important to take care of yourself during crises to be able to lead others through them, as well. In this episode, Christy shares her tips for leading through crisis, key strategies leaders can begin to implement, and how to cultivate a healthy work environment for everyone involved.
Key Takeaways
Christy’s tips for leaders, leading in a time of crisis:
Use it as a time to reflect on where you are now and where you want to be on the other side of it all
Take time to process your emotions and lead from a place of truth
Lead by example; take care of yourself and work at a sustainable pace while encouraging the rest of the team
Transparency is key — be transparent about where you are, as a team, as an organization, and in relation to the difficult decisions you’ve had to make to survive the crisis (transparency offers the opportunity for growth and building trust within the organization)
Understand your audience in your approach with being transparent; it is important to care for the person receiving the information
Going hand-in-hand with transparency, it is also critical to communicate (and the need for communication exponentially rises, the greater the crisis)
Meaningful, intentional communication and on-going dialogue between the employee and the leader (or the team and the team members) is critically important for minimizing the stories they may be telling themselves when there is a gap in communication or lack of communication
Connect in a meaningful way with your employees vs. walking away or being silent
Authenticity is critically important in leading through a crisis — it’s not about what you know; it’s about what you’re willing to learn
Do not defer taking action until the last possible moment
How to come out of a crisis stronger than ever with your team:
Delegate decision-making and allow other people to make decisions within a framework
Take pragmatic action
Ensure you are still meeting and talking about your longer-term strategy beyond COVID-19
Examine how to position your organization so that when you come out on the other side of COVID-19 you are attractive to the marketplace and your customers
Leverage OKRs
Apply an experimental mindset and conduct experiments (one way you could do this is to utilize Kanban boards)
Implement empirical process control
Cultivate a culture steeped in trust and forgiveness
Continual planning
Reach out to others as a leader so that you’re not making decisions in a vacuum and are leveraging other people’s expertise
Imagine what the leader that you most respect would do; how would they handle this situation? And how can you tap into this person’s expertise?
Make the time to reflect and gain perspective
Be courageous as a leader by being vulnerable
Mentioned in this Episode:
Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep. 5: “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery”
Small Business Administration (SBA)
SCORE — Service Corps of Retired Executives
“Microsoft Analyzed Data on its Newly Remote Workforce,” Harvard Business Review
“Managing When the Future is Unclear,” Harvard Business Review
“Leadership in Times of Crisis,” American Psychological Association
Today on the podcast, Dan Neumann and Christy Erbeck are discussing how to lead in times of crisis and come out of it stronger than ever.
As a leader, it is critically important to take care of yourself during crises to be able to lead others through them, as well. In this episode, Christy shares her tips for leading through crisis, key strategies leaders can begin to implement, and how to cultivate a healthy work environment for everyone involved.
Key Takeaways
Christy’s tips for leaders, leading in a time of crisis:
Use it as a time to reflect on where you are now and where you want to be on the other side of it all
Take time to process your emotions and lead from a place of truth
Lead by example; take care of yourself and work at a sustainable pace while encouraging the rest of the team
Transparency is key — be transparent about where you are, as a team, as an organization, and in relation to the difficult decisions you’ve had to make to survive the crisis (transparency offers the opportunity for growth and building trust within the organization)
Understand your audience in your approach with being transparent; it is important to care for the person receiving the information
Going hand-in-hand with transparency, it is also critical to communicate (and the need for communication exponentially rises, the greater the crisis)
Meaningful, intentional communication and on-going dialogue between the employee and the leader (or the team and the team members) is critically important for minimizing the stories they may be telling themselves when there is a gap in communication or lack of communication
Connect in a meaningful way with your employees vs. walking away or being silent
Authenticity is critically important in leading through a crisis — it’s not about what you know; it’s about what you’re willing to learn
Do not defer taking action until the last possible moment
How to come out of a crisis stronger than ever with your team:
Delegate decision-making and allow other people to make decisions within a framework
Take pragmatic action
Ensure you are still meeting and talking about your longer-term strategy beyond COVID-19
Examine how to position your organization so that when you come out on the other side of COVID-19 you are attractive to the marketplace and your customers
Leverage OKRs
Apply an experimental mindset and conduct experiments (one way you could do this is to utilize Kanban boards)
Implement empirical process control
Cultivate a culture steeped in trust and forgiveness
Continual planning
Reach out to others as a leader so that you’re not making decisions in a vacuum and are leveraging other people’s expertise
Imagine what the leader that you most respect would do; how would they handle this situation? And how can you tap into this person’s expertise?
Make the time to reflect and gain perspective
Be courageous as a leader by being vulnerable
Mentioned in this Episode:
Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep. 5: “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery”
Small Business Administration (SBA)
SCORE — Service Corps of Retired Executives
“Microsoft Analyzed Data on its Newly Remote Workforce,” Harvard Business Review
“Managing When the Future is Unclear,” Harvard Business Review
“Leadership in Times of Crisis,” American Psychological Association
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In this episode, Professional Scrum Trainer Eric Landes addresses the questions: "Will the Professional Scrum Master Certification help me get a job as a Scrum Master?"
The Professional Scrum Master certification Bolsters your CredentialsOf course there is no guarantee of a job with a certification, but I believe it helps you have the intelligent conversations around scrum when you have the background from passing a certification in the Scrum framework. If you are already working in IT, one way to do bolster your chances for a job would be to take the class and go for the certification. Then in your current job, use Scrum with your team, at any opportunity you have.
Get Experience in the Scrum Master RoleIf you can volunteer for other teams within your organization. This will help you get experience with the concepts. Then you are positioned to be a Scrum Master in your current organization should the opportunity present itself. Having the certification helps, and get as much experience as you can as you attempt to become a full time scrum master.
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What Makes a Great Scrum Master? with Quincy Jordan and Christy Erbeck
In this episode, Dan Neumann is joined by not one — but two! — AgileThought Colleagues; Quincy Jordan and Christy Erbeck!
In their conversation today, Dan, Quincy, and Christy discuss the key qualities to look for when bringing a new Scrum Master into your organization. They discuss the important characteristics you should be on the lookout for, the key skillsets, important soft skills, and some of the qualifiers (and disqualifiers!). They also share what to pay attention to when hiring, red flags to watch out for, and insightful questions you can ask during the interview process to make sure they’re a good fit.
Key Takeaways
What to consider when beginning to look for a Scrum Master:
Key characteristics
Skillsets
Soft skills
Qualifiers and disqualifiers
Good qualities:
Humbleness — they focus on the betterment of the team rather than shining the limelight on themselves
They are a servant leader
A capacity to focus on the strengths of others
A good balance of leadership and humility
Open to feedback
They have a growth mindset
They are a learner; not a knower
They come from a place of curiosity vs. judgment
What to pay attention to when hiring:
They understand the five Scrum values
Mastery of the Scrum guide
They are staying up-to-date on the Scrum framework
They purposefully model the behaviors and values of Scrum
Listen to how they use their words; i.e. are they phrasing from a competitive standpoint or a collaborative standpoint? Are they phrasing from a comparative standpoint or an inclusion standpoint?
They should have stories and anecdotes of how they have applied the Scrum guide in real life
They should take on the role of a Maestro rather than a ‘Master’
In the interview process, identify how they apply values, think through problems, and how they recover and ‘rise strong’ from a failure
If they don’t have any certifications, inquire why that is and how they have self-taught
If they do have certifications, ask when they received them and what they have done with them since
Ask how they are participating in the agile community in their area
Disqualifiers:
Humility to the point where they are not actually leading anything
Having too much knowledge and have a hard time pulling their weight from their own experience/knowledge and not allow the team to determine the ‘how’ for themselves
They are not open to self-evaluation or evaluation from others
They have a fixed mindset
They are a knower; not a learner
Misconceptions:
Do not assume that you can take all of your project managers and turn them into Scrum Masters
“We need a very technical person to be a Scrum Master” — untrue; in many cases, a less technical person makes a better Scrum Master
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