
Above & Beyond Dermatology
Stephen Lewellis, MD, PhD
The Above & Beyond Dermatology podcast is part blueprint and part inspiration for aspiring direct independent practice owners from the lens of an entrepreneurial dermatologist who is building and exploring in real time.
Each week, you’ll hear from board-certified dermatologist and founder of Above & Beyond Dermatology, Dr. Stephen Lewellis, MD, PhD, as he shares his story and interviews other doctors and experts in areas you need to know about such as marketing, law, technology, entrepreneurship, finance, and more
Whether you’re well on your way or just thinking about dipping your toe in the water, the Above & Beyond Dermatology podcast is your guide to bucking the conventional wisdom of taking care of patients and taking care of business in ways that can unlock the value and transformation you and your patients deserve.
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Lewellis Catches a Charizard... it's Dr. Peter Lio!!! (IDCP 25-26 Enrollment Deadline is April 21st!)
Above & Beyond Dermatology
04/15/25 • 56 min
TL;DR: The application deadline for the 2025-2026 cohort of LearnSkin's Integrative Dermatology Certificate Program (IDCP) is April 21st, 2025!
As a proud and transformed IDCP alumnus, I know how this program helps dermatologists expand their approach to patient care and reignite their passion for dermatology.
From evidence-informed functional medicine to new treatment strategies, IDCP provides practical tools to enhance how we support our patients with the comprehensive, holistic dermatology care I know so many of them are seeking.If you want to join and learn form a forward thinking, supportive, growth-minded community and expand your dermatology toolkit, opportunity is knocking... will you answer?🔗 Applications are due April 21st, 2025 -- Scholarships are available. I got one last year!Please note, this episode is NOT sponsored by LearnSkin or IDCP. It's fully funded by me (Dr. Lewellis). Now on with the show...
They say, "Never meet your heroes."
I say, sure, sound advice... but if you do, make sure to invite them on your podcast!
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Episode 049 | Peter Lio, MD, FAAD is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Dermatology and Pediatrics at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine and a Diplomate of the American Board of Dermatology (board-certified in Dermatology). He received his medical degree from Harvard Medical School, completed his internship in Pediatrics at Boston Children's Hospital, and his Dermatology training at Harvard where he served as Chief Resident in Dermatology. While at Harvard, he received formal training in acupuncture.
Dr. Lio is partner at Medical Dermatology Associates of Chicago and founding director of the Chicago Integrative Eczema Center. He's also a founding faculty member and co-chair of LearnSkin's Integrative Dermatology Certificate Program (IDCP). Dr. Lio is a member of the American Academy of Dermatology’s Atopic Dermatitis Expert Resource Group and has written 3 textbooks and is an author on more than 200 publications. He speaks nationally and internationally about atopic dermatitis and integrative dermatology.
He has received a Leader of Distinction Award, a Presidential Citation from the American Academy of Dermatology, and numerous teaching awards.Dr. Lio is committed to providing the highest level of care to patients of all ages. His special interests include pediatric dermatology, eczema / atopic dermatitis, acne, dermatomyositis, and other inflammatory diseases of the skin, and he works tirelessly to integrate alternative and complementary medicines in dermatology for his patients and to help teach others (like me!) to bring that gift to their patients.
Dr. Lio has dedicated his career to bridging conventional dermatology with complementary and integrative approaches, helping patients achieve healthier skin through a holistic lens.In this episode, we explore his journey, the evolving landscape of integrative dermatology including the Integrative Dermatology Certificate Program (IDCP), and practical strategies for incorporating holistic, integrative care into dermatology practice.Connect with and learn from Dr. Lio & the IDCP
IDCP -- Enrollment deadline is April 21st, 2025!
Peter Lio, MD, FAAD
Chicago Integrative Eczema Center
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Itchy, Aging Skin is Everywhere... Let's Do Something About It! | Daniel C. Butler, MD
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01/30/25 • 47 min
Dr. Butler is the assistant dean of student affairs and an associate professor at the University of Arizona College of Medicine in Tucson. He directs the University of Arizona’s Inflammatory and Aging Skin Research Program.
Dr. Butler's research interests focus on the presentation and treatment of skin disease in older adults. He founded and leads international clinical and research groups evaluating best practices in this population. He has active clinical trials focusing on pruritus and atopic dermatitis in older adults. Dr. Butler graduated from the University of Arizona College of Medicine and completed his dermatology residency at Harvard Medical School. He continues to mentor students and trainees all over the country who are interested in skin diseases of the oldest generation.
I'd like to extend a huge thanks to the Dermeleve Cream and Scalp Serum team at Advanced Derm Solutions, LLC for their generous support of this episode, for connecting me with Dr. Butler, and for their dedication to helping itchy people!
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A Promising Public Health Leadership Journey from Dhulikhel to Baltimore | Niroj Bhandari, MBBS
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10/24/24 • 45 min
That was back in 2018 while I was a dermatology resident at Stanford, but I caught up with him shortly after he received the prestigious Sommer Scholars Program award for his outstanding contributions in public health leadership. When we recorded this interview on August 6, 2024, this scholarship was supporting his pursuit of a Master of Public Health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and providing him with enrichment activities to hone his leadership skills, develop his professional network, and engage with today's leaders.A bit more about my pal Niroj... Dr. Bhandari is the Founder of Drishya Health Care and holds roles as Research Associate and Executive Officer at the Institute for Implementation Science and Health. He also advises Federal Parliament of Nepal Member Biraj Bhakta Shrestha, serves as an executive member of the Authentic Leadership Institute Nepal, and is a consultant to the Ever Forward Club in Hayward, California.
Dr. Bhandari's diverse activities and passions underscore his unwavering commitment to healthcare, research, leadership, and community service. Additionally, he has published over two dozen research papers and is now enthusiastic about studying the transformative impact of politico-economic systems, international relations, technology, academia, business, and organizational structures on global healthcare, particularly in developing regions.Connect with and learn more about Dr. Bhandari
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THE Dermy Doc Is In to Talk Dermy Doc Box, Dermy Doc Institute, IP & Direct Care | Fatima Fahs, MD, FAAD
Above & Beyond Dermatology
02/27/25 • 43 min
Dr. Fahs is a board-certified dermatologist and diplomat of the American Board of Dermatology. She has been quoted and featured in numerous publications including The New York Times, Forbes, Self, Time, Today, Cosmopolitan, Women’s Health and many more.
She's also the founder of the award winning skincare subscription box, Dermy Dox Box, as well as the Dermy Doc Institute, a fabulous direct care dermatology practice in Southfield, Michigan.
We recorded this episode just days before the Institute's grand opening, and I'm so grateful she was willing to give us some of her time.
I love how more and more doctors are redefining healthcare and bringing it back to a much healthier place and can't help but shout these stories from the rooftop.
At the Dermy Doc Institute, Dr. Fahs provides comprehensive, personalized care without the demands and restrictions placed by insurance companies. This allows for her sole focus to be on you, the patient, and your unique dermatological needs.
She knows that many of us experience barriers to quality healthcare imposed by health insurance companies that we all so clearly know value profits over health and well-being. Dr. Fahs believes every patient has the right to make their own healthcare decisions. She's helping put the power of your healthcare back into your hands by utilizing a direct care model.
Dr. Fahs has a particular interest in skincare and product formulation, researching the efficacy of over the counter cosmeceuticals. Her Instagram account is where she decodes skincare ingredients and explains common dermatological concerns and her award-winning subscription box, Dermy Doc Box, is how she brings quality and effective skincare to your doorstep for a fraction of the price.She graduated with honors as a MedStart full-ride scholar from Wayne State University with a Bachelor of Science in biology and a minor in art. She went on to attend Oakland University William Beaumont School on a full-ride scholarship, earning her medical doctorate. Dr. Fahs then completed her medicine internship at Beaumont Hospital and her dermatology residency at Wayne State University, serving as Chief Resident in her final year.She's a Michigan native, born and raised and resides in West Bloomfield with her husband and three children.Tune in to learn more!🔗 Connect with and learn from The Dermy Doc
The Dermy Doc InstituteDermy Doc Box
Meet Dr. Fahs
Dr. Fahs on the Value of Direct Care
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"Direct care is value-based care." | Dr. Farhaad Riyaz
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12/29/23 • 74 min
Dr. Farhaad Riyaz, MD, FAAD, is a distinguished dermatologist and Mohs micrographic & reconstructive surgeon. He excelled in his medical studies at the Medical College of Virginia, securing first place in his class and serving as President of the Alpha Omega Alpha honor society. Dr. Riyaz's expertise includes skin cancer, Mohs surgery, complex facial reconstruction, cosmetics, hair disorders, and clinical trials. His training included internships and residencies in Michigan, a fellowship at Northwestern University, and business school at the University of Chicago. In 2023, Dr. Riyaz founded a direct care dermatology practice in Michigan, focused on commitment to patient care and medical excellence.
🔗 Connect with Dr. Riyaz
🐦 Twitter/X (162K+ followers! — @DermDC)
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🐕 Pippa!In this episode, my friend and fellow direct care dermatologist, Dr. Riyaz, shares his journey from medical school to the innovative direct care practice that he launched in 2023.
He sheds light on the pivotal influences in his life, the intersection of medicine, business, and journalism in his professional pursuits, and the transformative power of storytelling.
He reflects on the rewards of his service-based approach that allows him to build deeper relationships with patients and how he seeks out value in his practice while maintaining uncompromised patient care standards.
Reflecting on what direct care means to him, he provides us with an engaging and thought provoking reframe of direct care as value-based care. This contrasts starkly with the web of bureaucracy and alphabet soup that I imagine many of you think of when you hear the phrase "value-based care".
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Blazing a Joyful Path with Bluebird Dermatology, Writing Children's Books, HeartMath, and HUGE Visions | Meena Julapalli, MD
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05/23/24 • 66 min
After 7 years in academics as an Assistant Professor of Dermatology and Pediatrics at the University of Texas - Austin and the University of Colorado, she opened her own direct care pediatric dermatology practice, Bluebird Dermatology, in Houston, Texas.
Dr. Julapalli is passionate about providing comprehensive, integrative, and personalized care that acknowledges and supports not just the physical aspects of her patients' skin conditions but also their unique social and emotional needs. She believes that by fostering sacred relationships of love, trust, and mutual respect and creating an environment and community whereby children and families affected by skin disease feel seen, heard, understood, valued, and supported, they are empowered, transformed, and healed in profound and life-changing ways.
Dr. Julapalli has been blessed to facilitate and witness these transformations through her involvement with support groups and camp programs throughout the country, including the American Academy of Dermatology-sponsored Camp Discovery, Paul Newman's SeriousFun Network, and the American Camp Association, as well as through local workshops and healing circles that she leads.
She is the founder of The Joyful Path, whose mission is to help children build the intuition of how to nourish their mind, body, and soul so that they may live, love, and serve generously with an open heart, intention, and purpose.In addition to her philanthropic pursuits in her local and national communities, Dr. Julapalli is dedicated to serving children abroad. She has volunteered her time and expertise at a pediatric HIV/AIDS clinic in Lesotho, Africa, at orphanages and schools in Nicaragua, with children and adults with albinism in Tanzania, and most recently with people in impoverished villages in northern Thailand.Dr. Julapalli's adventures also include being a children's book author, wisdom coach and yoga instructor for kids, Reiki master, world explorer (she has been to all 7 continents, all 50 states), avid hiker, meditator, sound healer/instrumentalist, and amateur swing dancer!
She's also simply one of the most truly joyful and generous people I've ever met. I'm honored and grateful to call her a friend and colleague.In this episode:🔥 From academia to direct care pediatric dermatology
🔥 50 patients a day and feeling disconnected and like a hypocrite
🔥 "The metric was how many patients can you see in the shortest amount of time possible to make the most amount of money."
🔥 The current system does not allow us to do what we do best -- CONNECT with people
🔥 Neurocardiology and HeartMath
🔥 Integrative Dermatology
🔥 Taking some time off to figure it out
🔥 Pausing to reconnect with yourself
🔥 Private practice as a means of utilizing our unique gifts
🔥 Direct care is just one way of solving a huge problem
🔥 Misalignment burnout
🔥 Combatting bad information with good
🔥 "How can I?" instead of "I can't"
🔥 Educate, Empower, Advocate -- a virtuous cycle
🔥 Marvel, DC, and Elsa
🔥 Should out to Dr. Marinkovich and his team at Stanford working to help kids with EB!
🔥 Chronic diseases are family affairs
🔥 Dermatology Camps
🔥 Asking kids "What brings you joy?"
🔥 Writing children's books
🔥 Ikigai
🔥 The magic of building something of your own
🔥 Mindset coaching for kids
🔥 Big hairy audacious visions🔗 Connect with and learn from Dr. Julapalli
🐦 Bluebird Dermatology 🐦Other Blubird Dermatology LinksThe Joyful Path
Other Joyful Path LinksAAD's Camp DiscoveryPaul Newman's SeriousFun Network Roundup River RanchCamp Spirit (Winter Camp for kids with Epidermolysis Bullosa)🔗 More from Dr. Lewellis
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A Joyful Approach to Delivering Outstanding Integrative Dermatology Care | Meena Julapalli, MD
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02/13/25 • 62 min
If you're new around here or missed it for any other reason, I recommend that you first enJOY episode 022 and follow it with this one.
Dr. Julapalli is a triple board-certified in pediatrics, dermatology, and pediatric dermatology.
After 7 years in academics as an Assistant Professor of Dermatology and Pediatrics at the University of Texas - Austin and the University of Colorado, she opened her own direct care pediatric dermatology practice, Bluebird Dermatology, in Houston, Texas.
Dr. Julapalli is passionate about providing comprehensive, integrative, and personalized care that acknowledges and supports not just the physical aspects of her patients' skin conditions but also their unique social and emotional needs. She believes that by fostering sacred relationships of love, trust, and mutual respect and creating an environment and community whereby children and families affected by skin disease feel seen, heard, understood, valued, and supported, they are empowered, transformed, and healed in profound and life-changing ways.
Dr. Julapalli has been blessed to facilitate and witness these transformations through her involvement with support groups and camp programs throughout the country, including the American Academy of Dermatology-sponsored Camp Discovery, Paul Newman's SeriousFun Network, and the American Camp Association, as well as through local workshops and healing circles that she leads.
She is the founder of The Joyful Path, whose mission is to help children build the intuition of how to nourish their mind, body, and soul so that they may live, love, and serve generously with an open heart, intention, and purpose.In addition to her philanthropic pursuits in her local and national communities, Dr. Julapalli is dedicated to serving children abroad. She has volunteered her time and expertise at a pediatric HIV/AIDS clinic in Lesotho, Africa, at orphanages and schools in Nicaragua, with children and adults with albinism in Tanzania, and most recently with people in impoverished villages in northern Thailand.Dr. Julapalli's adventures also include being a children's book author, wisdom coach and yoga instructor for kids, Reiki master, world explorer (she has been to all 7 continents, all 50 states), avid hiker, meditator, sound healer/instrumentalist, and amateur swing dancer!
She's also simply one of the most truly joyful and generous people I've ever met. I'm honored and grateful to call her a friend and colleague and am thrilled to have her back on the show.🔗 Connect with and learn from Dr. Julapalli
🐦 Bluebird Dermatology 🐦Other Blubird Dermatology LinksThe Joyful Path
Other Joyful Path LinksAAD's Camp DiscoveryPaul Newman's SeriousFun Network Roundup River RanchCamp Spirit (Winter Camp for kids with Epidermolysis Bullosa)More from Dr. Lewellis and Above & Beyond Dermatology
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What, Why, and a Quick Win
Above & Beyond Dermatology
01/04/24 • 14 min
In this episode, I share what this podcast is all about, my WHY for creating it, and one quick win that you can take home right away to help you succeed on your direct care journey.
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If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to reach out to me at [email protected].

A Doc Reflects on 107 Units of Creative Output in 5 Months
Above & Beyond Dermatology
01/04/24 • 47 min
Create more than you consume. You won't regret it.
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🐕 Pippa!If you enjoy this, the best way to support the continued production of more content like it is to subscribe/follow and leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast platform. Thank you!
If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to reach out to me at [email protected].

Diving into Naturopathic Dermatology with a Skin+Care Superhero | DeJarra "DJ" Sims, ND
Above & Beyond Dermatology
03/13/25 • 63 min
She is currently accepting patients for virtual consults. Click here to schedule your free 15-minute Discovery Call.If you would like to have Dr. DJ speak at your next event, send her team an email with your request and someone will get back to you.Tune in to learn more!Connect with and learn from Dr. Sims
Superhero Skin+Care
Meet Dr. DJ
Take the Acne QuizMore from Dr. Lewellis and Above & Beyond Dermatology
Need a dermatologist? Fill out this short interest form, text or call me at 715-391-9774, or email me at [email protected] if you'd like to have a no obligation discovery call. I offer in-office visits, house calls, and virtual care in Wisconsin and virtual care in Illinois, Nebraska, and Colorado.
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FAQ
How many episodes does Above & Beyond Dermatology have?
Above & Beyond Dermatology currently has 49 episodes available.
What topics does Above & Beyond Dermatology cover?
The podcast is about Health & Fitness, Functional Medicine, Alternative Health, Entrepreneurship, Podcasts, Business and Dermatology.
What is the most popular episode on Above & Beyond Dermatology?
The episode title 'What, Why, and a Quick Win' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Above & Beyond Dermatology?
The average episode length on Above & Beyond Dermatology is 52 minutes.
How often are episodes of Above & Beyond Dermatology released?
Episodes of Above & Beyond Dermatology are typically released every 7 days, 17 hours.
When was the first episode of Above & Beyond Dermatology?
The first episode of Above & Beyond Dermatology was released on Dec 29, 2023.
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