
Hitting the High Notes - Anna Rose
06/25/22 • 58 min
Hitting The High Notes is town planning’s equivalent of Desert Island Discs. In these episodes Sam Stafford chats to preeminent figures in the planning and property sectors about the six planning permissions or projects that helped to shape them as professionals. And, so that we can get to know people a little better personally, for every permission or project Sam asks his guests for a piece of music that reminds them of that period of their career.
Unlike Desert Island Discs you will not hear any of that music during the episode because using commercially-licensed music without the copyright holders permission or a very expensive PRS licensing agreement could land Sam in hot water, so, when you have finished listening to this episode, you will have to make do with YouTube videos and a Spotify playlist, links to which you will find below.
Sam's guest for this episode of Hitting The High Notes is Anna Rose. After eschewing a career in fashion, Anna worked as a legal advisor at the National Farmers Union before joining Rugby Borough Council and working her way to become Head of Planning & Culture. After a spell as Service Director at Milton Keynes Council, Anna (@EPlanna) has since 2017 been the Head of the Planning Advisory Service (@pas_team) at the Local Government Association. Sam and Anna's conversation takes in the relationships and skills required to plan strategically and deliver major new development; leadership and systems thinking; and LPA recruitment practices.
Anna's song selections.
Fluorescent Adolescent - Arctic Monkeys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma9I9VBKPiw
Human - The Killers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZdjT1472Y
Try – P!NK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCDVfMz15M
Zombie – Jamie T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PU4d5Iogd4
Tilted – Christine & The Queens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptu3TFmF0Jo
If I Got It (Your Love brought It) – Aaron Frazer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlNBg35ItSo
Anna's Spotify playlist
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4NqDjMStSYGn3tlmBEYPR0?si=uGKpLS7mSSSyoTI3Sj8QuQ
Some accompanying reading
The Planning Advisory Service
https://www.local.gov.uk/latest-news-pas
Houlton, Rugby
MK Futures 2050
https://www.mkfutures2050.com/
PAS' 'Return To Work' project
https://www.local.gov.uk/return-to-work-planning
50 Shades T-Shirts!
If you have listened to Episode 45 of the 50 Shades of Planning Podcast you will have heard Clive Betts say that...
'In the Netherlands planning is seen as part of the solution. In the UK, too often, planning is seen as part of the problem'.
Sam said in reply that that would look good on a t-shirt and it does. Further details can be found here: http://samuelstafford.blogspot.com/2021/07/50-shades-of-planning-t-shirts.html
Hitting The High Notes is town planning’s equivalent of Desert Island Discs. In these episodes Sam Stafford chats to preeminent figures in the planning and property sectors about the six planning permissions or projects that helped to shape them as professionals. And, so that we can get to know people a little better personally, for every permission or project Sam asks his guests for a piece of music that reminds them of that period of their career.
Unlike Desert Island Discs you will not hear any of that music during the episode because using commercially-licensed music without the copyright holders permission or a very expensive PRS licensing agreement could land Sam in hot water, so, when you have finished listening to this episode, you will have to make do with YouTube videos and a Spotify playlist, links to which you will find below.
Sam's guest for this episode of Hitting The High Notes is Anna Rose. After eschewing a career in fashion, Anna worked as a legal advisor at the National Farmers Union before joining Rugby Borough Council and working her way to become Head of Planning & Culture. After a spell as Service Director at Milton Keynes Council, Anna (@EPlanna) has since 2017 been the Head of the Planning Advisory Service (@pas_team) at the Local Government Association. Sam and Anna's conversation takes in the relationships and skills required to plan strategically and deliver major new development; leadership and systems thinking; and LPA recruitment practices.
Anna's song selections.
Fluorescent Adolescent - Arctic Monkeys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma9I9VBKPiw
Human - The Killers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZdjT1472Y
Try – P!NK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCDVfMz15M
Zombie – Jamie T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PU4d5Iogd4
Tilted – Christine & The Queens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptu3TFmF0Jo
If I Got It (Your Love brought It) – Aaron Frazer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlNBg35ItSo
Anna's Spotify playlist
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4NqDjMStSYGn3tlmBEYPR0?si=uGKpLS7mSSSyoTI3Sj8QuQ
Some accompanying reading
The Planning Advisory Service
https://www.local.gov.uk/latest-news-pas
Houlton, Rugby
MK Futures 2050
https://www.mkfutures2050.com/
PAS' 'Return To Work' project
https://www.local.gov.uk/return-to-work-planning
50 Shades T-Shirts!
If you have listened to Episode 45 of the 50 Shades of Planning Podcast you will have heard Clive Betts say that...
'In the Netherlands planning is seen as part of the solution. In the UK, too often, planning is seen as part of the problem'.
Sam said in reply that that would look good on a t-shirt and it does. Further details can be found here: http://samuelstafford.blogspot.com/2021/07/50-shades-of-planning-t-shirts.html
Previous Episode

Place, Politics & The Piece Hall
When Sam Stafford saw that Create Streets and Onward were bringing their 'Restitch' conference to Halifax's Piece Hall, his favourite building, he could not have been more excited. He was though even more excited when the organisers agreed to let him set up a 'pop-up' recording studio at the back of one of the breakout rooms so as to record conversations with some of the conference's contributors during the day.
This bumper episode then is the accumulation of those recorded conversations and in it you will hear from (broken down into time slots if you are dipping in and out):
2m:35s
Ben Page, Chief Executive Officer, Ipsos (@benatipsos)
16m:05s
Andrew Taylor, Group Planning Director, Countryside (@AndrewJTaylor3) & Pete Gladwell, Group Social Impact & Investment Director, L&G (@petegladwell)
28m:48s
Amy Burbidge, Senior Master Development and Design Manager, Homes England (@AmyBurbidge2); Mike Axon, Managing Director, Vectos: and David Milner, Deputy Director, Create Streets (@djjmilner)
49m:00s
Neil O’Brien, Harborough MP & Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at DLUHC (@NeilDotObrien)
54m:45s
Nicky Chance-Thompson, Chief Executive, The Piece Hall Trust (@NickyChanThomDL)
01h:07m:00s
Tim Swift, Leader of Calderdale Council (@TimSwift)
01h:23m:10s
Nicholas Boys Smith, Director, Create Streets (@boys_nicholas)
Some accompanying reading
The 'Piece Hall Effect' is bringing millions into Calderdale's economy, new report reveals
Some accompanying viewing/listening
Gravity by Embrace, live at The Piece Hall (Sam was there)
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2421918771409236
50 Shades T-Shirts!
If you have listened to Episode 45 of the 50 Shades of Planning Podcast you will have heard Clive Betts say that...
'In the Netherlands planning is seen as part of the solution. In the UK, too often, planning is seen as part of the problem'.
Sam said in reply that that would look good on a t-shirt and it does. Further details can be found here: http://samuelstafford.blogspot.com/2021/07/50-shades-of-planning-t-shirts.html
Next Episode

LURB
50 Shades listeners are a perceptive bunch and will have a spotted that the Levelling Up & Regeneration Bill (LURB) was introduced to Parliament on 11 May. Whilst the word planning does not appear on the front of the bill it does appear 680 times inside and so, for a planning podcast that purports to have it's figure on the pulse, it is about time that Sam Stafford put a panel together to discuss it.
Helpfully for Sam, Andrew Taylor (@AndrewJTaylor3), past 50 Shades contributor and friend of the podcast, did it for him. Andrew invited Sam to contribute to a National Planning Forum (@nat_plan) seminar on the LURB and, in preparation for the event, which took place on 5 July 2022, Sam invited the other panellists to record a preparatory chat. You will here in this episode then from:
- Tony Burton (@Tony4Place), free range consultant on community, planning, design and environment;
- Simon Ricketts (@sricketts1), Partner at Town Legal;
- Catriona Riddell (@CatrionaRiddel1), Director at Catriona Riddell & Associates; and
- Jennie Baker (@1jenniebaker), Associate Director at Lichfields.
PS. Perceptive 50 Shades listeners will also have spotted that the UK Government began to collapse on the evening of 5 July 2022 and that the future of the LURB is now uncertain. This though hopefully remains an interesting and relevant discussion.
Some accompanying reading.
The LURB
https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3155
The policy paper that accompanies the LURB
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/levelling-up-and-regeneration-bill
Neighbourhood Planners London
https://www.neighbourhoodplanners.london/
Lichfields' analysis of the role of neighbourhood plans in housing delivery
https://lichfields.uk/content/insights/local-choices
Simon's recent LURB blog
https://simonicity.com/2022/07/02/summer-of-lurb/
Lichfields' LURB resource
https://lichfields.uk/the-levelling-up-and-regeneration-bill/
Matthew Carmona's blog on the design code pilots
https://matthew-carmona.com/2022/06/22/88-testing-design-codes-in-england-21-lessons/
The National Planning Forum
https://www.natplanforum.org.uk/
Some accompanying listening.
Everything is simple by Widowspeak
50 Shades T-Shirts!
If you have listened to Episode 45 of the 50 Shades of Planning Podcast you will have heard Clive Betts say that...
'In the Netherlands planning is seen as part of the solution. In the UK, too often, planning is seen as part of the problem'.
Sam said in reply that that would look good on a t-shirt and it does. Further details can be found here: http://samuelstafford.blogspot.com/2021/07/50-shades-of-planning-t-shirts.html
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