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02/11/25 • 53 min
What’s the next step in your career as an IP? Join hosts Kelly Holmes and Lerenza Howard as they explore APIC’s Career Development and Advancement Guide with experts Chris Zirges and Angel Mueller. This episode is packed with actionable strategies to help you evaluate your skills, build a standout professional portfolio, and navigate every career stage—from paraprofessional to executive. Whether you’re looking to grow your influence or take the leap into a new role, this empowering discussion will give you the tools to shape your future as an IP. Tune in and take your career to the next level!
Resources: Infection Preventionist Career Development and Advancement Guide
"A framework for defining and documenting infection preventionist competency"
Hosted by:
Kelly Holmes, MS, CIC, FAPIC and Lerenza Howard, MHA, CIC, LSSGB
About our Guests:
Angel Mueller, MPH, CIC, FAPIC
Angel Mueller is a certified Infection Preventionist and APIC Fellow with over 16 years of progressive infection prevention and control and leadership experience. She is the System Director of Infection Prevention at UnityPoint Health where she provides leadership and strategic direction for multiple hospital, ambulatory and home care settings throughout Iowa, western Illinois and southern Wisconsin.
Angel was a member of the APIC Professional Development Committee (PDC) for six years and served as chair of the committee for two of those years. Through her work on the PDC, Angel contributed to the updated APIC IP Competency Model, was a participating author of the article introducing the model and helped develop the Infection Preventionist Career Development and Advancement Guide.
Angel is knowledgeable in the infection prevention competency domains, enjoys developing tools and systems to make infection prevention processes more efficient and effective, and is passionate about advancing the profession and supporting the development of IPs throughout the world.
Christine (Chris) Zirges, DNP, ACNS-BC, CIC, FAPIC
Chris is currently the System Director of Infection Prevention for SSM Health. Professional endeavors include past board member of the Certification Board of Infection Control (CBIC), current Chair of the APIC Professional Development Committee, board member on the Board of Directors for the Healthcare Laundry Accreditation Council (HLAC), and the HAI Advisory Council through the University of Missouri (Sinclair School of Nursing).
She is certified in infection prevention (CIC), board-certified as an advanced practice nurse (ACNS-BC), and a Fellow of the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology (FAPIC). Her doctoral focus was on reducing the number of indwelling urinary catheter days. Her experience includes practicing infection prevention in many settings, which made integrating a corporate-wide program a natural next step. Chris's interests include standardization of work and sustainment of clinical interventions. The structure and processes of a high-functioning infection prevention and control program are a key driver of success. She is from Kirkwood Missouri and proud parent of two young men – so now an empty nester!

#33 Happy Anniversary APIC: 50 Years Strong!
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06/14/22 • 43 min
For five decades, APIC has been a leading voice in the area of infection prevention and control. Listen as 2022 APIC President, Linda Dickey, and 1994 president and decades-long pioneering member, Barbara Russell, speak on the progression from the early days of infection prevention and control to the current-day focus on patient safety culture. What can we learn from the path already travelled and where will it lead?
Hosted by:
Silvia Quevedo, CAE
About our Guests:
Linda Dickey, RN, MPH, CIC, CPHQ, FAPIC, Sr. Director, Epidemiology & Infection Prevention
Linda Dickey is Sr. Director, Epidemiology & Infection Prevention at UCI Health and 2022 President-elect for APIC. Linda’s background includes serving on the Facilities Guidelines Institute (FGI) committee to develop design criteria for health care facilities. She has also taught for over 15 years for the American Society for Healthcare Engineering (ASHE) in courses related to healthcare design, construction and water management and has served on the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) 188 committee to establish the standard for Legionella management. Linda’s clinical experience is in adult critical care and over 25 years of experience in epidemiology & infection prevention and quality, patient safety. She earned a nursing degree from the University of South Carolina and her Master in Public Health degree from the University of South Florida.
Barbara S. Russell, MPH, BSHSA, RN, CIC, FAPIC
After retiring from Baptist Hospital of Miami, Barbara still wanted to be active and involved in her passion, Infection Prevention. In early 2020, Barbara was contacted by the Florida Hospital Association (FHA), who were working with the State of Florida Department of Health, to contract with certified Infection Preventionists to help assess and assist LTC’s with preventing and controlling COVID-19 in residents and staff. Barbara was assigned to Region 7 which encompasses Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and Monroe Counties, the epicenter of COVID in Florida, especially in their long-term care facilities. In January 2021, Barbara became a full-time employee with the Healthcare Associated Infections (HAI) Team of the Florida Department of Health. Visits included walking rounds to assess infection control practices, providing education and training for staff and residents, review and development of specific related policies and procedures, assisting in acquiring needed supplies and in some cases how to set up a COVID unit within their facility – to care for cases in residents who do not require hospitalization. As the COVID pandemic slows down our team is visiting facilities regarding other HAI’s. During Barbara’s extensive career, she has served in many leadership roles in Infection Prevention and Nursing organizations. Including, but not limited to, President of APIC and CBIC. She has been fortunate to be the recipient of many awards including the Carol DeMille and APIC President Awards.

#36 The Next 5 Seconds
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09/13/22 • 34 min
APIC Communication Committee members discuss the new direction of the podcast and talk about being an IP in a post-COVID world.
Hosted by:
Marie Wilson, MSN, RN, CIC
About our Guests:
Jay Liggins, MS, CIC Jay graduated from Michigan State University with a Masters degree in Epidemiology. Go Green! He has been an Infection Preventionist for almost 5 years and has taken a passionate interest in C. diff and CAUTI prevention.
Cindy Prins, PhD, MPH, CIC, CPH Cindy is the assistant dean for educational affairs and a clinical associate professor of Epidemiology in the University of Florida College of Public Health and Health Professions. During the current COVID-19 pandemic she served as the campus Infection Preventionist with the UF Screen, Test and Protect program. She worked in Infection Prevention and Control at UF Health Shands Hospital before becoming a faculty member in Epidemiology at UF in 2010.
Beth Wallace, MPH, CIC, FAPIC Beth is currently the Senior Director of System Infection Prevention & Epidemiology at Beaumont Health in southeast Michigan. She has over sixteen years of infection prevention experience in both community and academic hospital settings. She is currently Chair of APIC's Communications Committee.

#39 Recruit, Train, and Retain Talent in IPC
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12/13/22 • 40 min
APIC Hero of Infection Prevention Kelley Knapek talks about what it takes to successfully recruit, train, and retain talent in the IPC industry. Learn how she developed a tool to help others break into IPC, and how she became a 2022 Hero of Infection Prevention in Leadership.
Hosted by:
Marie Wilson, MSN, RN, CIC and Jay Liggins, MS, CIC
About our Guest:
Kelley Knapek, MPH, BSN, RN, CIC, CWON, Good Samaritan Medical Center
Kelley Knapek is the Manager of Infection Prevention at Good Samaritan Medical Center (SCL Health now Intermountain) in Lafayette, Colorado. She has been an infection preventionist since 2014 and has a background in nursing--working in mental health, med/surg, ortho, and wound care. Outside of work Kelley enjoys hiking, rock climbing, and spending time with her husband and two young boys.

#10 Advanced in years should not be advanced with tears: Infection Prevention and Control in Long Term Care
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07/14/20 • 24 min
It's true, "getting old ain't for wimps (especially during a global pandemic!)" Nursing home residents and healthcare workers who care for them in these facilities are the "biggest losers" in the fight against COVID-19. The elderly and those living with chronic illness are at most risk for severe illness and death. Learn about the challenges facing this care setting and the opportunities for better infection prevention and control for the future.
Hosted by:
Silvia Quevedo

#9 Behind the 5 Second Rule
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06/09/20 • 22 min
The questionable concept of the “5 Second Rule” is one we have all grown up with. You drop a food item on the floor that you really-really wanted and as a grade-schooler, you were very likely to get ready to pick it up and put it in your mouth. Meanwhile, your Mom is shouting “noooooo” from across the room. In this episode, we dive into the history behind this “rule” and if it really holds up. Co-Host: Marie H. Wilson, MSN, RN, CIC, is the Manager of Infection Prevention & Control at Methodist Dallas Medical Center in Texas. She draws upon her experience as a critical care nurse and public health nurse specialist in her daily work to help improve the safety of care and the environment for all within her facility. Her special interests in her daily work include IP professional development, outbreak investigations and data analytics. On the local level, she’s currently serving at the Chapter President for APIC-DFW (Chapter Number 005). She’s also been a member of the Communications Committee for headquarters since 2018. Connect with Marie on Twitter @mhwilsonrn Guest: Nicole Nomides, MT(ASCP), MS, CIC, FAPIC is currently Manager of Infection Prevention & Epidemiology at Michigan Medicine in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Nicole has been working as an infection preventionist for over 15 years, with experience covering all levels of patient care. Nicole has served as a board member for the APIC-Great Lakes Chapter as Chapter President, Secretary, Bylaws Chair, Program Co-Chair, and Nominating Committee member. She received the APIC Chapter Leadership Award in 2013. Ms. Nomides has served on the APIC Membership Services Committee and was recently elected to the APIC Nominating and Awards Committee. She has also been a speaker and poster presenter at multiple national and local professional conferences. Infection Prevention is Nicole’s passion and Germs Rule!

05/12/20 • 26 min
We hear so much about how hand washing is one of the most important steps we can take to avoid getting sick, but is that all hype? Listen to “5 Second Rule” to get all your questions answered about the one healthy habit everyone can and should do. Dr. Elaine Larson is an international expert in infection prevention, antimicrobial resistance, and hand hygiene, and is the only infection preventionist to receive the designation Living Legend from the American Academy of Nursing. Her contributions have changed the way healthcare is delivered by emphasizing the importance of infection prevention and hand hygiene for all health professionals. The interdisciplinary nature of her work is evident in the breadth and wide dissemination of her 500 scholarly publications. She has served on prestigious national advisory groups and grant review panels, and generously mentored countless clinical research nurses. Currently Professor Emerita Epidemiology and Anna C. Maxwell Professor Emerita of Nursing Research at Columbia University, Dr. Larson was also the editor of the American Journal of Infection Control from 1995 - 2019.
Hosted by:
Hannah Andrews and Silvia Quevedo

#7 How clean is clean enough?
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04/14/20 • 34 min
When you enter a hotel room, the bed is made, the toiletries are unopened, and fresh towels are ready for you. We know housekeeping cleans each room after every guest, but what does that include? And how does this compare to the job of Environmental Services in healthcare settings? In this episode, we want to use the concept of “hotel clean vs. hospital clean” to remind members of the public and healthcare workers why we focus in on certain types of cleanliness, particularly in healthcare. Frank Myers, MA, CIC, FAPIC is the Interim Director Infection Prevention & Clinical Epidemiology at UC San Diego Health. He has worked in the field of infectious disease epidemiology and control for over 30 years. He has been published over 40 times on the subject and done countless press, radio and television interviews. Frank is a well known lecturer on the subject both in the US and internationally.
Hosted by:
Hannah Andrews and Silvia Quevedo

#6 What You Need to Know About the Coronavirus
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03/04/20 • 27 min
When you think of an extreme outbreak, Ebola, Zika, measles, come to mind, diseases that plague the news (no pun intended). Novel Coronavirus, or COVID-19, is our newest concern, and as conditions evolve, each day brings new information. In this episode, we will review the current state of COVID-19, the supply of personal protective equipment (PPE) and important preventative measures to be taken by both healthcare workers and the public. Jessica Silvaggio Rosende, MPH, CIC, CSSGB is an infection preventionist at Huntington Hospital in Pasadena, CA after having worked as an infection preventionist at University of California Los Angeles and Children’s Hospital Los Angeles. Before becoming an IP, Jessica worked as an applied epidemiology fellow with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists (CSTE) focusing on infectious diseases and healthcare associated infections in Los Angeles County. Professionally, Jessica is interested in multidrug-resistant organisms in healthcare settings, emerging infectious diseases, antimicrobial stewardship and emergency preparedness. She is President of the Greater Los Angeles Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology chapter and President-Elect of California APIC. Sharon Vanairsdale, DNP, APRN, ACNS-BC, NP-C, CEN, FAEN, FAAN is the Program Director for the Serious Communicable Diseases Unit at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, GA. As the Program Director, she manages unit readiness and hospital preparedness for patients with Ebola and other special pathogens. In her role, she helps coordinate clinical operations, staff safety, and patient outcomes. She has been involved in the care of patients with Ebola virus disease and Lassa Fever. Dr. Vanairsdale is also the Director of Education within the National Ebola Training and Education Center, a federally funded collaborative between Emory, Nebraska Medicine, and New York Health and Hospital-Bellevue. Prior to the 2014 Ebola outbreak, she was the Clinical Nurse Specialist in the Emergency Department at Emory University Hospital.
Hosted by:
Hannah Andrews and Silvia Quevedo

06/11/24 • 25 min
In this insightful podcast, nurse manager Allison Zelikoff explores the history and importance of occupational health, its partnership with infection prevention, and how she found her calling in this field. Find out more about the critical role of occupational health in promoting workplace safety and the challenges this discipline faces including administrative and financial barriers. Listen in to understand the future of occupational health and the crucial connection it maintains with infection prevention.
Hosted by:
Lerenza Howard, MHA, CIC, LSSGB and Kelly Holmes, MS, CIC
About our Guest:
Allison Zelikoff, RN, MSN, Nurse Manager, Occupational Health, Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center
Allison Zelikoff is the Nurse Manager for Occupational Health at Fred Hutch, a cancer and infectious disease research institute and patient care center in Seattle, Washington. In her role, Allison manages a program that provides direct care to employees following workplace injury, response to bloodborne and respiratory pathogen exposure, large-scale vaccination programs, as well as interdisciplinary collaboration and data analysis aimed at preventing injury and illness among employees in the workplace. Her professional background includes direct patient care serving vulnerable populations in the community setting and at Harborview Medical Center, the region’s level 1 trauma center.
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5 Second Rule currently has 68 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Life Sciences, Health & Fitness, Medicine, Podcasts, Epidemiology, Science and Health.
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The average episode length on 5 Second Rule is 34 minutes.
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The first episode of 5 Second Rule was released on Aug 5, 2019.
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