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21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast - 164. How Do You Network in Aviation If You're an Introvert?

164. How Do You Network in Aviation If You're an Introvert?

04/08/25 • 63 min

21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast

Dylan and Max kick things off with stories of Cub flights and musing about GLS approaches and Starlink’s newest data plans. The Mailbag’s international flair includes a heartfelt message from a UK pilot and some simmering debate on career paths and sim setups. Flight Advice dives into the looming specter of single-pilot airline operations and how to future-proof your career (hint: maybe dust off that CAD software). Plus, the guys grapple with networking challenges for introverts in aviation.

Show Notes

0:00 Updates: Cub, Starlink, GLS Approaches

21:14 Reviews & Comments

25:01 Mailbag: Networking and More!

43:12 Flight Advice: Single Pilot

58:02 Final Flight of the Moose

Be sure to subscribe to 21Five's Youtube Channel to see our luggage review videos!

Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos by Thomas Petzinger Jr

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Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNERTM and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

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Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.

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Dylan and Max kick things off with stories of Cub flights and musing about GLS approaches and Starlink’s newest data plans. The Mailbag’s international flair includes a heartfelt message from a UK pilot and some simmering debate on career paths and sim setups. Flight Advice dives into the looming specter of single-pilot airline operations and how to future-proof your career (hint: maybe dust off that CAD software). Plus, the guys grapple with networking challenges for introverts in aviation.

Show Notes

0:00 Updates: Cub, Starlink, GLS Approaches

21:14 Reviews & Comments

25:01 Mailbag: Networking and More!

43:12 Flight Advice: Single Pilot

58:02 Final Flight of the Moose

Be sure to subscribe to 21Five's Youtube Channel to see our luggage review videos!

Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos by Thomas Petzinger Jr

Connect with us on LinkedIn

Our sponsors:

Move your airplane without breaking your back or the bank! Max said the Amigo AeroTow's affordable T1 tug has 'changed his hangar life'. Learn more about AeroTow's family of aviation tugs and see why its earning rave reviews from top 40 aviation podcast hosts around the globe. Use code "21five" at checkout for $100 off any AeroTow product!

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Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

--

Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

--

Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNERTM and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

--

Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"

The AirComp CalculatorTM is business aviation’s only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.

--

VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral Program

--

The 21.5 Podcast is supported by our friends at ProPilotWorld.com - The Premier Information & Networking Resource for Professional Pilots

--

Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.

The statements made in this show are ou...

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In this episode, Dylan and Max sit down with James Onieal, founder of Raven Career Development, to discuss the current state of pilot hiring and effective strategies for advancing your aviation career. James shares his journey from the cockpit to career coaching, offering invaluable insights for pilots navigating today's job market. Tune in for a candid conversation filled with practical advice and a few laughs along the way.

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Show Notes

6:59 Updates: Softening Market

14:19 Expectations: Majors & Regionals

24:30 Competitive Minimums

39:03 Failed Checkrides

1:00:29 Flight Advice: Termination

1:08:52 Advice on Struggle

Be sure to subscribe to 21Five's Youtube Channel to see our luggage review videos!

Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos by Thomas Petzinger Jr

Connect with us on LinkedIn

Our sponsors:

Move your airplane without breaking your back or the bank! Max said the Amigo AeroTow's affordable T1 tug has 'changed his hangar life'. Learn more about AeroTow's family of aviation tugs and see why its earning rave reviews from top 40 aviation podcast hosts around the globe. Use code "21five" at checkout for $100 off any AeroTow product!

--

Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

--

Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

--

Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNERTM and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

--

Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"

The AirComp CalculatorTM is business aviation’s only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.

--

VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral Program

--

The 21.5 Podcast is supported by our friends at ProPilotWorld.com - The Premier Information & Networking Resource for Professional Pilots

--

Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] C...

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165. Should You Really Jump Ship for 15 Grand More?

Dr. Chris Broyhill is back with updates on pilot compensation, market shifts in 2025, and a sneak peek at his upcoming leadership book for bizav professionals. We dig into the real value of the AirComp Calculator, how to use salary data without tanking your next negotiation, and what separates the professionals from the job-hoppers. Plus, Dr. Broyhill drops some spicy takes on military-to-civilian leadership advice.

The AirComp CalculatorTM is business aviation’s only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.

Show Notes:

0:00 Intro & Updates

8:54 Salary Updates

18:06 Using Data in Salary Negotiation

25:21 Leadership: Want To Vs Have To

31:22 Leadership Textbook for BizAv

37:49 Business Aviation vs Airlines

Be sure to subscribe to 21Five's Youtube Channel to see our luggage review videos!

Connect with us on LinkedIn

Our sponsors:

Move your airplane without breaking your back or the bank! Max said the Amigo AeroTow's affordable T1 tug has 'changed his hangar life'. Learn more about AeroTow's family of aviation tugs and see why its earning rave reviews from top 40 aviation podcast hosts around the globe. Use code "21five" at checkout for $100 off any AeroTow product!

--

Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline’s plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!

--

Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!

--

Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNERTM and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's podcast: The Pilot's Portfolio podcast

--

VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral Program

--

The 21.5 Podcast is supported by our friends at ProPilotWorld.com - The Premier Information & Networking Resource for Professional Pilots

--

Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.

The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.

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