
Electrify This!
Sara Baldwin, Energy Innovation, LLC
Electrify This! explores the movement to electrify everything as a strategy to decarbonize and revitalize all sectors of our economy. Featuring diverse experts, the show examines the most important policy, regulatory, and market issues surrounding electrification of transportation, buildings, and industry. Electrify This! helps demystify issues surrounding the transition to 100 percent clean electricity, and focuses on the challenges, scalable solutions, and what decision-makers can do to ensure the movement to electrify is equitable for all. Electrify This! is an original Energy Innovation Policy & Technology LLC® podcast hosted by Electrification Director Sara Baldwin (former host of Grid Geeks podcast). Our podcasts are accessible under the CC BY license. Users are free to copy, distribute, transform, and build upon the material as long as they credit Energy Innovation® for the original creation and indicate if changes were made.
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The Inflation Reduction Act: What it Means for the U.S. Workforce, Consumers, and Climate
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The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 (IRA) is the most significant climate legislation in United States history—$370 billion in climate and clean energy investments could help cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions roughly 40 percent by 2030. The IRA will transportation and building electrification, invigorate the U.S. clean energy supply chain, and enhance U.S. global competitiveness. But, how will it help average households and consumers? What does it mean for worrkers and the economy? And what's required to ensure successful implementation? Tune in to hear from two experts who will explain how consumers, workers, and the economy will benefit from IRA electrification provisions!
Guest Bios:
Jessica Eckdish is the Vice President of Legislation & Federal Affairs with the BlueGreen Alliance, where she directs the Alliance’s federal legislative, policy, and partnerships on climate, energy, and infrastructure issues. Prior to this role, she worked with the Sierra Club as Washington Representative, working on a range of federal issues including public health and clean air and water protections. She holds a B.A. in Political Science and International Relations from UC Santa Barbara and an M.A. in Global Environmental Policy from the School of International Service at American University.
Mark Kresowik is a Senior Policy Director with the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy (ACEEE) where he works at the local, state, utility, and federal levels to accelerate ambition for improving energy efficiency and center those most historically overburdened and underserved in our communities. Previously, Mark managed federal and international policy for RMI’s Carbon-Free Buildings Program and led clean energy campaigns with the Sierra Club. Mark graduated with honors from the University of Iowa.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- Implementing the Inflation Reduction Act: A Roadmap for State Electricity Policy (Energy Innovation)
- Implementing the Inflation Reduction Act: A Roadmap for Federal and State Transportation Policy (Energy Innovation)
- Fact Sheet: Clean Energy Tax Credits in the Inflation Reduction Act (BGA)
- Fact Sheet: Clean Manufacturing Investments in the Inflation Reduction Act (BGA)
- Fact Sheet: Clean Vehicle Provisions in the Inflation Reduction Act (BGA)
- Inflation Reduction Act and Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Resource Center (BGA)
- A User Guide to the Inflation Reduction Act (BGA)
- Home Energy Upgrade Incentives: Programs in the Inflation Reduction Act and Other Recent Federal Laws (ACEEE)
The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 (IRA) is the most significant climate legislation in United States history—$370 billion in climate and clean energy investments could help cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions roughly 40 percent by 2030. The IRA will transportation and building electrification, invigorate the U.S. clean energy supply chain, and enhance U.S. global competitiveness. But, how will it help average households and consumers? What does it mean for worrkers and the economy? And what's required to ensure successful implementation? Tune in to hear from two experts who will explain how consumers, workers, and the economy will benefit from IRA electrification provisions!
Guest Bios:
Jessica Eckdish is the Vice President of Legislation & Federal Affairs with the BlueGreen Alliance, where she directs the Alliance’s federal legislative, policy, and partnerships on climate, energy, and infrastructure issues. Prior to this role, she worked with the Sierra Club as Washington Representative, working on a range of federal issues including public health and clean air and water protections. She holds a B.A. in Political Science and International Relations from UC Santa Barbara and an M.A. in Global Environmental Policy from the School of International Service at American University.
Mark Kresowik is a Senior Policy Director with the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy (ACEEE) where he works at the local, state, utility, and federal levels to accelerate ambition for improving energy efficiency and center those most historically overburdened and underserved in our communities. Previously, Mark managed federal and international policy for RMI’s Carbon-Free Buildings Program and led clean energy campaigns with the Sierra Club. Mark graduated with honors from the University of Iowa.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- Implementing the Inflation Reduction Act: A Roadmap for State Electricity Policy (Energy Innovation)
- Implementing the Inflation Reduction Act: A Roadmap for Federal and State Transportation Policy (Energy Innovation)
- Fact Sheet: Clean Energy Tax Credits in the Inflation Reduction Act (BGA)
- Fact Sheet: Clean Manufacturing Investments in the Inflation Reduction Act (BGA)
- Fact Sheet: Clean Vehicle Provisions in the Inflation Reduction Act (BGA)
- Inflation Reduction Act and Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Resource Center (BGA)
- A User Guide to the Inflation Reduction Act (BGA)
- Home Energy Upgrade Incentives: Programs in the Inflation Reduction Act and Other Recent Federal Laws (ACEEE)
10/20/22 • 49 min

Connecting the Dots: Cooking, Climate, and Clean Air
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Did you know the gas that heats many of our buildings, cooks our food, and dries our clothes causes air pollution? Recent studies demonstrate the climate and health harms of burning gas indoors, particularly in our kitchens. Gas stoves can emit up to 1.3 percent of the gas as unburned methane—a powerful greenhouse gas—along with other health-damaging air pollutants. Fortunately, electrified stoves offer a physician- and chef-approved solution! This episode stirs up this hot topic with a pediatrician, a senior research scientist and a professional chef discussing ways we can all cook clean!
Guest Bios:
Dr. Curtis Nordgaard is a pediatrician and is part of a group called PSE Healthy Energy, where he does research on natural gas and its implications for human health. Dr. Nordgaard holds two Master of Science degrees in Psychology and Biology from McMaster University, and a Medical Degree from the University of Minnesota Medical School. He completed his residency training at the Boston University School of Medicine and Harvard Medical School combined training program in pediatrics. He also trains resident pediatricians at a community health center in the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston.
Dr. Eric Lebel is a Senior Scientist at PSE Healthy Energy, where he does research on emissions of methane and health-damaging air pollutants, including those from abandoned oil and gas wells and residential appliances. He has worked to develop new methods for quantifying emissions of methane and other pollutants throughout the state of California, authoring several research studies on the topic. Eric graduated from Stanford University with a PhD in Environmental Earth System Science.
Chef Christopher Galarza, Founder of Forward Dining Solutions LLC, is an entrepreneur, author, public speaker, and podcaster renowned for his work in kitchen electrification. He is the country’s foremost expert in commercial electric-kitchens, and he works with governments, manufacturers, brands, designers, and chefs to create lasting sustainable kitchens and culinary ecosystems. Chef Galarza has worked for Carnegie Melon University, Monterey Bay of Pittsburgh, and The Greenbrier of WV where he apprenticed under several Certified Master Chefs and culinary Olympians.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
· PSE Healthy Energy
· Forward Dining Solutions
· Did I Turn Off the Stove? Yes, but Maybe Not the Gas (New York Times)
· Home is Where the Pipeline Ends: Characterization of Volatile Organic Compounds Present in Natural Gas at the Point of the Residential End User
· Measuring Methane and NOx Emissions from Gas Stoves
· Building Decarbonization Practice Guide
· The Electric Explainer: Key programs in the Inflation Reduction Act and what they mean for Americans
Note: This episode was recorded prior to the enactment of the Inflation Reduction Act, which includes new incentives for electrification, including for induction and electric stoves.
Did you know the gas that heats many of our buildings, cooks our food, and dries our clothes causes air pollution? Recent studies demonstrate the climate and health harms of burning gas indoors, particularly in our kitchens. Gas stoves can emit up to 1.3 percent of the gas as unburned methane—a powerful greenhouse gas—along with other health-damaging air pollutants. Fortunately, electrified stoves offer a physician- and chef-approved solution! This episode stirs up this hot topic with a pediatrician, a senior research scientist and a professional chef discussing ways we can all cook clean!
Guest Bios:
Dr. Curtis Nordgaard is a pediatrician and is part of a group called PSE Healthy Energy, where he does research on natural gas and its implications for human health. Dr. Nordgaard holds two Master of Science degrees in Psychology and Biology from McMaster University, and a Medical Degree from the University of Minnesota Medical School. He completed his residency training at the Boston University School of Medicine and Harvard Medical School combined training program in pediatrics. He also trains resident pediatricians at a community health center in the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston.
Dr. Eric Lebel is a Senior Scientist at PSE Healthy Energy, where he does research on emissions of methane and health-damaging air pollutants, including those from abandoned oil and gas wells and residential appliances. He has worked to develop new methods for quantifying emissions of methane and other pollutants throughout the state of California, authoring several research studies on the topic. Eric graduated from Stanford University with a PhD in Environmental Earth System Science.
Chef Christopher Galarza, Founder of Forward Dining Solutions LLC, is an entrepreneur, author, public speaker, and podcaster renowned for his work in kitchen electrification. He is the country’s foremost expert in commercial electric-kitchens, and he works with governments, manufacturers, brands, designers, and chefs to create lasting sustainable kitchens and culinary ecosystems. Chef Galarza has worked for Carnegie Melon University, Monterey Bay of Pittsburgh, and The Greenbrier of WV where he apprenticed under several Certified Master Chefs and culinary Olympians.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
· PSE Healthy Energy
· Forward Dining Solutions
· Did I Turn Off the Stove? Yes, but Maybe Not the Gas (New York Times)
· Home is Where the Pipeline Ends: Characterization of Volatile Organic Compounds Present in Natural Gas at the Point of the Residential End User
· Measuring Methane and NOx Emissions from Gas Stoves
· Building Decarbonization Practice Guide
· The Electric Explainer: Key programs in the Inflation Reduction Act and what they mean for Americans
Note: This episode was recorded prior to the enactment of the Inflation Reduction Act, which includes new incentives for electrification, including for induction and electric stoves.
08/17/22 • 53 min

That’s A Wrap! 2021 Reflections and 2022 Predictions with Three Electrification Dynamos
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An all-star line-up closes out the year with reflections on 2021 and predictions for 2022. Host Sara Baldwin speaks with electrify everything pioneer Saul Griffith, policy expert and former Energy Gang podcast co-host Katherine Hamilton, and leading climate and clean energy commentator David Roberts. Tune in to hear three electrification dynamos recap 2021’s biggest developments in the transition from fossil to clean electricity, share the latest scoop on the Build Back Better Act, and predict what’s in store for electrification in 2022.
Guests:
Saul Griffith is an engineer, inventor, entrepreneur, and author of the book Electrify: An Optimist's Playbook for Our Clean Energy Future. Saul is the founder and chief scientist at Otherlab, an independent R&D lab that helps government agencies and Fortune 500 companies understand energy infrastructure and deep decarbonization. He is also the founder and chief scientist at Rewiring America, a nonprofit dedicated to decarbonizing America by electrifying everything. Prior to pursuing his passion for electrification, Saul led research projects for the likes of NASA, the National Science Foundation and U.S. Special Operations Command, among others, and he has founded and co-founded numerous technology companies. He completed his PhD at Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 2004 and was a recipient of a MacArthur “genius grant” in 2007.
Katherine Hamilton is the Chair of 38 North Solutions, a clean energy public policy consultancy with expertise in state, federal, and international markets. Katherine is currently the co-chair of the World Economic Forum’s Global Future Council on Clean Electrification. Katherine has served as President of the GridWise Alliance, policy advisor for Good Energies, Inc., buildings research lead for National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), and engineer at Virginia Power. She studied electrical engineering at Northern Virginia Community College and holds degrees from Cornell University and the Sorbonne. Katherine was an original and longtime host of The Energy Gang podcast.
David Roberts is a writer and owner of Volts, a newsletter on clean energy and politics featuring in-depth analysis of the latest research, technologies, policies, and the social and political forces shaping the clean energy transition. David has had a long career as a journalist, writing five years for Vox, ten years for Grist. He’s also written for publications like Outside magazine and appeared on a variety of TV shows, radio programs, and podcasts.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
An all-star line-up closes out the year with reflections on 2021 and predictions for 2022. Host Sara Baldwin speaks with electrify everything pioneer Saul Griffith, policy expert and former Energy Gang podcast co-host Katherine Hamilton, and leading climate and clean energy commentator David Roberts. Tune in to hear three electrification dynamos recap 2021’s biggest developments in the transition from fossil to clean electricity, share the latest scoop on the Build Back Better Act, and predict what’s in store for electrification in 2022.
Guests:
Saul Griffith is an engineer, inventor, entrepreneur, and author of the book Electrify: An Optimist's Playbook for Our Clean Energy Future. Saul is the founder and chief scientist at Otherlab, an independent R&D lab that helps government agencies and Fortune 500 companies understand energy infrastructure and deep decarbonization. He is also the founder and chief scientist at Rewiring America, a nonprofit dedicated to decarbonizing America by electrifying everything. Prior to pursuing his passion for electrification, Saul led research projects for the likes of NASA, the National Science Foundation and U.S. Special Operations Command, among others, and he has founded and co-founded numerous technology companies. He completed his PhD at Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 2004 and was a recipient of a MacArthur “genius grant” in 2007.
Katherine Hamilton is the Chair of 38 North Solutions, a clean energy public policy consultancy with expertise in state, federal, and international markets. Katherine is currently the co-chair of the World Economic Forum’s Global Future Council on Clean Electrification. Katherine has served as President of the GridWise Alliance, policy advisor for Good Energies, Inc., buildings research lead for National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), and engineer at Virginia Power. She studied electrical engineering at Northern Virginia Community College and holds degrees from Cornell University and the Sorbonne. Katherine was an original and longtime host of The Energy Gang podcast.
David Roberts is a writer and owner of Volts, a newsletter on clean energy and politics featuring in-depth analysis of the latest research, technologies, policies, and the social and political forces shaping the clean energy transition. David has had a long career as a journalist, writing five years for Vox, ten years for Grist. He’s also written for publications like Outside magazine and appeared on a variety of TV shows, radio programs, and podcasts.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
12/14/21 • 77 min

Accelerating Clean, Electrified Transportation and a Clean Grid by 2035 (Part 2 of 3)
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We have the technology needed to drive the clean energy future, but what policies must we adopt now to actually reach that goal? In part two of our three-part series on electrifying transportation, host Sara Baldwin speaks with electric vehicle and electricity policy experts to explore the most critical policies needed for an all-electric transportation transition that also helps achieve a carbon-free grid within 15 years. We dive into the current state of play of federal EV and charging infrastructure policies, a federal clean electricity standard, policies to enhance America’s economic competitiveness, and approaches to ensure an equitable transition. You won’t want to miss this inside scoop on America’s clean energy policy landscape!
Dr. Kelly Fleming, Ph.D., Policy Director at Zero Emission Transportation Association (ZETA). Prior to joining ZETA, Kelly was a research and policy analyst at the Policy Institute for Energy, Environment, and the Economy at University of California, Davis. She also received the AAAS Science and Technology Policy Fellowship where she served at the Department of Energy. She holds an M.S. and Ph.D. from the University of Washington and B.S. from the Colorado School of Mines, all in Chemical Engineering.
Mike O’Boyle, Director of Electricity Policy at Energy Innovation, directs the firm’s Power Sector Transformation program, working with policymakers, advocates, and others on policy and technology solutions for a clean, reliable, and affordable U.S. electricity system. Mike has co-authored foundational reports including Coal Cost Crossover 2.0, 2030 Report: Powering America’s Clean Economy, and A National Clean Electricity Standard to Benefit All Americans. Mike graduated cum laude from Arizona State University Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law, where he focused on energy and international law. He also has a B.A from Vanderbilt University.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- Zero Emission Transportation Association Policy Platform (Zero Emission Transportation Association)
- 2035 Report 2.0: Plummeting Costs and Dramatic Improvements in Batteries Can Accelerate Our Clean Transportation Future (University of California, Berkeley, GridLab, and Energy Innovation, April 2021)
- Accelerating Clean, Electrified Transportation by 2035: Policy Priorities: A 2035 2.0 Companion Report(Energy Innovation and Goldman School of Public Policy, University of California, Berkeley, April 2021)
- 2030 Report: Powering America’s Clean Economy (Energy Innovation)
- A National Clean Electricity Standard to Benefit All Americans (Energy Innovation)
We have the technology needed to drive the clean energy future, but what policies must we adopt now to actually reach that goal? In part two of our three-part series on electrifying transportation, host Sara Baldwin speaks with electric vehicle and electricity policy experts to explore the most critical policies needed for an all-electric transportation transition that also helps achieve a carbon-free grid within 15 years. We dive into the current state of play of federal EV and charging infrastructure policies, a federal clean electricity standard, policies to enhance America’s economic competitiveness, and approaches to ensure an equitable transition. You won’t want to miss this inside scoop on America’s clean energy policy landscape!
Dr. Kelly Fleming, Ph.D., Policy Director at Zero Emission Transportation Association (ZETA). Prior to joining ZETA, Kelly was a research and policy analyst at the Policy Institute for Energy, Environment, and the Economy at University of California, Davis. She also received the AAAS Science and Technology Policy Fellowship where she served at the Department of Energy. She holds an M.S. and Ph.D. from the University of Washington and B.S. from the Colorado School of Mines, all in Chemical Engineering.
Mike O’Boyle, Director of Electricity Policy at Energy Innovation, directs the firm’s Power Sector Transformation program, working with policymakers, advocates, and others on policy and technology solutions for a clean, reliable, and affordable U.S. electricity system. Mike has co-authored foundational reports including Coal Cost Crossover 2.0, 2030 Report: Powering America’s Clean Economy, and A National Clean Electricity Standard to Benefit All Americans. Mike graduated cum laude from Arizona State University Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law, where he focused on energy and international law. He also has a B.A from Vanderbilt University.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- Zero Emission Transportation Association Policy Platform (Zero Emission Transportation Association)
- 2035 Report 2.0: Plummeting Costs and Dramatic Improvements in Batteries Can Accelerate Our Clean Transportation Future (University of California, Berkeley, GridLab, and Energy Innovation, April 2021)
- Accelerating Clean, Electrified Transportation by 2035: Policy Priorities: A 2035 2.0 Companion Report(Energy Innovation and Goldman School of Public Policy, University of California, Berkeley, April 2021)
- 2030 Report: Powering America’s Clean Economy (Energy Innovation)
- A National Clean Electricity Standard to Benefit All Americans (Energy Innovation)
06/09/21 • 55 min

Changing the Way We Build with Electrified Construction
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The landmark $1.2 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act will restore and expand the United States infrastructure. From improving roads, bridges, and rail, to expanding electric vehicle charging, to developing a more resilient grid and more efficient buildings, or to ensuring clean drinking water for all—this historic investment will spur construction in nearly every community in America. But it’s also a tremendous opportunity to reconsider how we build. Since the majority of construction equipment rely on fossil fuels, this sector is ripe for innovations that address climate change and air pollution. A new movement, led by several cities around the world, including Oslo, Norway, is underway to create a market for climate-friendly construction practices like electrified equipment. In this episode of Electrify This!, three experts discuss the global effort to scale clean, electrified construction. Learn how governments, the private sector, and NGOs are working collaboratively to create greater demand for electrified equipment, and hear insights into how these technologies could revolutionize the way we build.
Guests:
Heidi Sørensen, is the Director of the Climate Agency for the City of Oslo. She was elected to the Parliament of Norway from Oslo in 2001, and went on to become the State Secretary to the Minister of the Environment between 2007-2012. She has also served as a member of the Norwegian Consumer Council, the Norwegian Board of Technology, the board of the Research Council of Norway and the Norwegian School of Sport Sciences.
Nils-Olav Haukaas is a senior consultant with CEPartnersAS and represents Nasta AS. For nearly three decades has been working in commercial sales and marketing of construction machines and mining machines. Nasta AS has represented Hitachi Construction Machines since 1982. He has also worked in health and safety, product compliance, risk assessments. He has also served on a Norwegian Committee on Zero Emission building and constructions sites and a Zero Emission Digger construction site.
Marta Lovisolo, is a Junior Policy Analyst at Bellona Europa in Brussels. Bellona is a climate NGO with headquarters in Norway and offices across several European countries. After supporting the city of Oslo in running the first zero emissions construction site in the world, Bellona is now disseminating the Norwegian experience to European cities and countries, as well as the the E.U.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- Global Alliance for Buildings and Construction: 2018 Global Status Report
- California Air Resources Board Strategies for Reducing Emissions from Off-Road Construction Equipment
- “Electric Dreams: Will Heavy Construction Equipment Go All-Electric” Construct Connect
- How Oslo is driving a transition to clean construction, C40 Knowledge
- Bellona
The landmark $1.2 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act will restore and expand the United States infrastructure. From improving roads, bridges, and rail, to expanding electric vehicle charging, to developing a more resilient grid and more efficient buildings, or to ensuring clean drinking water for all—this historic investment will spur construction in nearly every community in America. But it’s also a tremendous opportunity to reconsider how we build. Since the majority of construction equipment rely on fossil fuels, this sector is ripe for innovations that address climate change and air pollution. A new movement, led by several cities around the world, including Oslo, Norway, is underway to create a market for climate-friendly construction practices like electrified equipment. In this episode of Electrify This!, three experts discuss the global effort to scale clean, electrified construction. Learn how governments, the private sector, and NGOs are working collaboratively to create greater demand for electrified equipment, and hear insights into how these technologies could revolutionize the way we build.
Guests:
Heidi Sørensen, is the Director of the Climate Agency for the City of Oslo. She was elected to the Parliament of Norway from Oslo in 2001, and went on to become the State Secretary to the Minister of the Environment between 2007-2012. She has also served as a member of the Norwegian Consumer Council, the Norwegian Board of Technology, the board of the Research Council of Norway and the Norwegian School of Sport Sciences.
Nils-Olav Haukaas is a senior consultant with CEPartnersAS and represents Nasta AS. For nearly three decades has been working in commercial sales and marketing of construction machines and mining machines. Nasta AS has represented Hitachi Construction Machines since 1982. He has also worked in health and safety, product compliance, risk assessments. He has also served on a Norwegian Committee on Zero Emission building and constructions sites and a Zero Emission Digger construction site.
Marta Lovisolo, is a Junior Policy Analyst at Bellona Europa in Brussels. Bellona is a climate NGO with headquarters in Norway and offices across several European countries. After supporting the city of Oslo in running the first zero emissions construction site in the world, Bellona is now disseminating the Norwegian experience to European cities and countries, as well as the the E.U.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- Global Alliance for Buildings and Construction: 2018 Global Status Report
- California Air Resources Board Strategies for Reducing Emissions from Off-Road Construction Equipment
- “Electric Dreams: Will Heavy Construction Equipment Go All-Electric” Construct Connect
- How Oslo is driving a transition to clean construction, C40 Knowledge
- Bellona
11/23/21 • 47 min

Want to electrify your life and not sure where to start? Then tune in to a special two-part series of Electrify This! to find out how you can cut pollution and save money by making the switch to clean, efficient electric alternatives. Host Sara Baldwin speaks with Joel Rosenberg, the author of the new e-book called Electrify Everything in Your Home: A Guide to Comfy, Healthy, Carbon-Free Living, and Panama Bartholomy of the Building Decarbonization Coalition about the steps homeowners and renters can take to transition to a clean, electrified life. We’ll also discuss the big electrification wins of 2021 and the new The Switch is On campaign aimed at helping households and contractors plug in to the electrification movement.
Guests:
Joel Rosenberg is an educator and entrepreneur focused on helping solve the climate crisis and is the Author of a new e-book, just released, called Electrify Everything in Your Home (which is a Rewiring America publication). Joel has worked on science and engineering education at the Museum of Science, Boston; the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology in Germany; the Lawrence Hall of Science at U.C. Berkeley; Maker Media; and Otherlab. He is also the co-founder of 3D Fab Light, an industrial laser cutter company. Joel has a mechanical engineering degree from MIT, and a master’s from Columbia’s Graduate School of Journalism.
Panama Bartholomy is the Director of the Building Decarbonization Coalition, which is a multi-sector forum advocating for and creating solutions for our pollution-intensive building stock. Previously, Panama has served as the European Director of the Investor Confidence Project, an Advisor on Energy and Natural Resources to California Assembly Speaker John A. Perez, the Deputy Director of the California Energy Commission’s Efficiency and Renewables Division, and an advisor for Chairwomen Douglas and Pfannenstiel. He is also a former board member on the U.S. Green Building Council and past president of the Northern California Chapter.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
Want to electrify your life and not sure where to start? Then tune in to a special two-part series of Electrify This! to find out how you can cut pollution and save money by making the switch to clean, efficient electric alternatives. Host Sara Baldwin speaks with Joel Rosenberg, the author of the new e-book called Electrify Everything in Your Home: A Guide to Comfy, Healthy, Carbon-Free Living, and Panama Bartholomy of the Building Decarbonization Coalition about the steps homeowners and renters can take to transition to a clean, electrified life. We’ll also discuss the big electrification wins of 2021 and the new The Switch is On campaign aimed at helping households and contractors plug in to the electrification movement.
Guests:
Joel Rosenberg is an educator and entrepreneur focused on helping solve the climate crisis and is the Author of a new e-book, just released, called Electrify Everything in Your Home (which is a Rewiring America publication). Joel has worked on science and engineering education at the Museum of Science, Boston; the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology in Germany; the Lawrence Hall of Science at U.C. Berkeley; Maker Media; and Otherlab. He is also the co-founder of 3D Fab Light, an industrial laser cutter company. Joel has a mechanical engineering degree from MIT, and a master’s from Columbia’s Graduate School of Journalism.
Panama Bartholomy is the Director of the Building Decarbonization Coalition, which is a multi-sector forum advocating for and creating solutions for our pollution-intensive building stock. Previously, Panama has served as the European Director of the Investor Confidence Project, an Advisor on Energy and Natural Resources to California Assembly Speaker John A. Perez, the Deputy Director of the California Energy Commission’s Efficiency and Renewables Division, and an advisor for Chairwomen Douglas and Pfannenstiel. He is also a former board member on the U.S. Green Building Council and past president of the Northern California Chapter.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
02/08/22 • 49 min

Electrification Loves Grid Reliability
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In this special valentine to the electric grid, Electrify This! host Sara Baldwin speaks with grid expert, Ric O’Connell of GridLab, about a topic front of mind for more people, utilities, and policymakers around the world: grid reliability. Demand for electricity is on the rise after decades of relatively flat load growth as more end-uses seek to connect to the grid. Simultaneously, the grid’s portfolio is diversifying as more utilities and states integrate more renewable energy, energy storage, and other clean energy technologies in the race to reduce climate emissions and stabilize the climate. While this transition has been underway for some time, converging factors are impacting the grid and uncertainty looms on the horizon. In this episode, we explore the myriad issues facing the grid and what policies and practices are needed to build a resilient, reliable, affordable clean grid to power the future.
About the guest:
Ric O’Connell is the founding executive director of GridLab, where he leads a team of experts to provide comprehensive technical grid expertise to policy makers and advocates. A recognized leader in renewable energy technology and policy, Ric has provided engineering support for more than 8 GW of utility scale solar projects worldwide. Ric also served as a consultant with Black & Veatch for 12 years where helped build a global renewable energy consulting practice and led numerous high-impact policy studies. Ric has a BSEE from Duke University and a Master’s in Renewable Energy Policy from CU Boulder.
Electrifying News:
- 2025 Renewable Energy Outlook: Full speed ahead as second Trump administration begins(Utility Dive, January 21, 2025)
- Uncertainty over Trump’s electric vehicle policies clouds 2025 forecast for carmakers (AP News, January 9, 2025)
- U.S. solar cell production resumes for first time since 2019, as solar module manufacturing sets record in Q3 (Wood McKenzie and Solar Energy Industries Association, December 2024)
To dig in deeper, check out these must-read resources:
- Grid Lab – website: https://gridlab.org
- Energy Systems Integration Group (ESIG) website https://www.esig.energy/
- Surplus Interconnection Policy Explainer (Grid Lab)
- The Future of Operational Grid Reliability Can Be Bright with Clean Energy (Energy Innovation, Real Talk on Reliability Series)
- Explained: Fundamentals of Power Grid Reliability and Clean Electricity (National Renewable Energy Laboratory)
- Meeting Growing Electricity Demand Without Gas (Energy Innovation)
- What’s the impact of artificial intelligence on energy demand? (Hannah Ritchie, Sustainability by Numbers, November 2024)
- AI and energy: The big picture (Ben Levitt, S&P Global, December 2024)
In this special valentine to the electric grid, Electrify This! host Sara Baldwin speaks with grid expert, Ric O’Connell of GridLab, about a topic front of mind for more people, utilities, and policymakers around the world: grid reliability. Demand for electricity is on the rise after decades of relatively flat load growth as more end-uses seek to connect to the grid. Simultaneously, the grid’s portfolio is diversifying as more utilities and states integrate more renewable energy, energy storage, and other clean energy technologies in the race to reduce climate emissions and stabilize the climate. While this transition has been underway for some time, converging factors are impacting the grid and uncertainty looms on the horizon. In this episode, we explore the myriad issues facing the grid and what policies and practices are needed to build a resilient, reliable, affordable clean grid to power the future.
About the guest:
Ric O’Connell is the founding executive director of GridLab, where he leads a team of experts to provide comprehensive technical grid expertise to policy makers and advocates. A recognized leader in renewable energy technology and policy, Ric has provided engineering support for more than 8 GW of utility scale solar projects worldwide. Ric also served as a consultant with Black & Veatch for 12 years where helped build a global renewable energy consulting practice and led numerous high-impact policy studies. Ric has a BSEE from Duke University and a Master’s in Renewable Energy Policy from CU Boulder.
Electrifying News:
- 2025 Renewable Energy Outlook: Full speed ahead as second Trump administration begins(Utility Dive, January 21, 2025)
- Uncertainty over Trump’s electric vehicle policies clouds 2025 forecast for carmakers (AP News, January 9, 2025)
- U.S. solar cell production resumes for first time since 2019, as solar module manufacturing sets record in Q3 (Wood McKenzie and Solar Energy Industries Association, December 2024)
To dig in deeper, check out these must-read resources:
- Grid Lab – website: https://gridlab.org
- Energy Systems Integration Group (ESIG) website https://www.esig.energy/
- Surplus Interconnection Policy Explainer (Grid Lab)
- The Future of Operational Grid Reliability Can Be Bright with Clean Energy (Energy Innovation, Real Talk on Reliability Series)
- Explained: Fundamentals of Power Grid Reliability and Clean Electricity (National Renewable Energy Laboratory)
- Meeting Growing Electricity Demand Without Gas (Energy Innovation)
- What’s the impact of artificial intelligence on energy demand? (Hannah Ritchie, Sustainability by Numbers, November 2024)
- AI and energy: The big picture (Ben Levitt, S&P Global, December 2024)
02/13/25 • 35 min

Three national climate policy stars kick off Season 3 to recap 2022 successes, predict what’s in store for 2023 on the policy front, and outline how the Inflation Reduction Act will benefit states, households, and the climate. U.S. Senator Martin Heinrich of New Mexico, U.S. Representative Kathy Castor of Florida, and Kelly Speakes-Backman of Invenergy share their insights on how we made major progress last year and why we can expect an action-packed year ahead!
Guest Bios
U.S. Senator Martin Heinrich (New Mexico) has served in the Senate since 2012 and sits on the Senate Energy and Natural Resources, Appropriations, Intelligence, and Joint Economic Committees. Senator Heinrich is focused on creating the jobs of the future and confronting the climate crisis. He served two terms in the U.S. House of Representatives and four years as an Albuquerque City Council, serving as City Council President. He holds a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Missouri.
U.S. House of Representatives Kathy Castor (Florida) is Tampa Bay’s voice in the U.S. Congress. She was elected in 2006 and represents Florida’s 14th Congressional district, and is the first woman to represent Hillsborough and Pinellas counties in Congress. She serves as a member of the Energy and Commerce Committee and the Chair of the former Select Committee on the Climate Crisis. She previously served as a Hillsborough County Commissioner, Chair of the Hillsborough County Environmental Protection Commission, and President of the Florida Association of Women Lawyers. She holds degrees from Emory University and Florida State University College of Law.
Kelly Speakes-Backman is the Executive Vice President of Public Affairs with Invenergy, where she leads communications, government affairs, and marketing activities. She previously served as the Acting Assistant Secretary and Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy at the Department of Energy, where she oversaw the planning and execution of the organization’s $3.2B portfolio of activities in energy efficiency, renewable energy, and sustainable transportation. She also served as the first CEO of the Energy Storage Association and Commissioner of the Maryland Public Service Commission. Kelly was honored in 2019 by The Cleanie Awards as Woman of the Year.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- White House Fact Sheet on the Inflation Reduction Act & White House Inflation Reduction Act Guidebook
- House Select Committee on the Climate Crisis Archive Website
- Implementing the Inflation Reduction Act Report Series, Energy Innovation
- Infrastructure and Investment in Jobs Act Resources for Local Governments
- Energy Innovation Careers - We're Hiring!
Three national climate policy stars kick off Season 3 to recap 2022 successes, predict what’s in store for 2023 on the policy front, and outline how the Inflation Reduction Act will benefit states, households, and the climate. U.S. Senator Martin Heinrich of New Mexico, U.S. Representative Kathy Castor of Florida, and Kelly Speakes-Backman of Invenergy share their insights on how we made major progress last year and why we can expect an action-packed year ahead!
Guest Bios
U.S. Senator Martin Heinrich (New Mexico) has served in the Senate since 2012 and sits on the Senate Energy and Natural Resources, Appropriations, Intelligence, and Joint Economic Committees. Senator Heinrich is focused on creating the jobs of the future and confronting the climate crisis. He served two terms in the U.S. House of Representatives and four years as an Albuquerque City Council, serving as City Council President. He holds a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Missouri.
U.S. House of Representatives Kathy Castor (Florida) is Tampa Bay’s voice in the U.S. Congress. She was elected in 2006 and represents Florida’s 14th Congressional district, and is the first woman to represent Hillsborough and Pinellas counties in Congress. She serves as a member of the Energy and Commerce Committee and the Chair of the former Select Committee on the Climate Crisis. She previously served as a Hillsborough County Commissioner, Chair of the Hillsborough County Environmental Protection Commission, and President of the Florida Association of Women Lawyers. She holds degrees from Emory University and Florida State University College of Law.
Kelly Speakes-Backman is the Executive Vice President of Public Affairs with Invenergy, where she leads communications, government affairs, and marketing activities. She previously served as the Acting Assistant Secretary and Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy at the Department of Energy, where she oversaw the planning and execution of the organization’s $3.2B portfolio of activities in energy efficiency, renewable energy, and sustainable transportation. She also served as the first CEO of the Energy Storage Association and Commissioner of the Maryland Public Service Commission. Kelly was honored in 2019 by The Cleanie Awards as Woman of the Year.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- White House Fact Sheet on the Inflation Reduction Act & White House Inflation Reduction Act Guidebook
- House Select Committee on the Climate Crisis Archive Website
- Implementing the Inflation Reduction Act Report Series, Energy Innovation
- Infrastructure and Investment in Jobs Act Resources for Local Governments
- Energy Innovation Careers - We're Hiring!
02/02/23 • 56 min

Environmental Justice Impacts of the Hydrogen Economy
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The hydrogen buzz is getting louder. Carbon-free hydrogen is part of the U.S. Department of Energy’s strategy to achieve President Biden’s net-zero by 2050 target, and the bipartisan infrastructure law earmarked $8 billion for regional clean hydrogen hubs. Meanwhile, natural gas and electric utilities in more than a dozen states are proposing hydrogen-blending for use in buildings and natural gas plants. In this episode, energy equity advocates discuss which of these hydrogen applications have the most potential and which are the most problematic. You’ll also hear how hydrogen could harm environmental justice and frontline communities, as well as more promising and equitable solutions.
Guests:
Abbe Ramanan, Project Manager at Clean Energy States Alliance and Clean Energy Group. Abbe specializes in equitable low-income solar policy, managing the Solar with Justice: Connecting States and Communities project, and leading the Hydrogen Information and Public Education project. She also supports the Resilient Power Project to provide solar and battery storage technologies to the communities that need it most. Abbe holds a master’s in energy policy from Tufts University, and a bachelor’s in international studies from American University.
Victor Davila, Community organizer and ACTION program manager at The Point Community Development Corporation. Victor has been a Bronx based community organizer for over 16 years and attended the University of Vermont. Victor is a co-founder of the environmental education skate group Eco Ryders and a member of the New York Renews organizing committee.
Daniel Chu, Energy Planner for the New York City Environmental Justice Alliance. Daniel is an urban designer interested in civic involvement in the built environment design and preservation. He has experience working at NYC 2030 District focusing on building efficiency and heat pump retrofits in Brooklyn, and at Urban Design Forum reporting infrastructure maintenance and global zoning practices. He's held various positions with The New School, where he also received a Master of Science in Design and Urban Ecologies and a BA in Urban Studies.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
· Clean Energy Group
· The Point Community Development Corporation
· New York City Environmental Justice Alliance & Peak Coalition
· Assessing the Viability of Hydrogen Proposals: Considerations for State Utility Regulators And Policymakers | Energy Innovation
· Hydrogen Information and Public Education Project Page | Clean Energy Group
· 5 Reasons to Be Concerned About Green Hydrogen | Clean Energy Group
· Hydrogen Heating & Cooking Would Cost Homeowners $100,000+ Extra Over 15 Years | Clean Technica
· Event: Verge Electrify (July 26-29, 2022)
The hydrogen buzz is getting louder. Carbon-free hydrogen is part of the U.S. Department of Energy’s strategy to achieve President Biden’s net-zero by 2050 target, and the bipartisan infrastructure law earmarked $8 billion for regional clean hydrogen hubs. Meanwhile, natural gas and electric utilities in more than a dozen states are proposing hydrogen-blending for use in buildings and natural gas plants. In this episode, energy equity advocates discuss which of these hydrogen applications have the most potential and which are the most problematic. You’ll also hear how hydrogen could harm environmental justice and frontline communities, as well as more promising and equitable solutions.
Guests:
Abbe Ramanan, Project Manager at Clean Energy States Alliance and Clean Energy Group. Abbe specializes in equitable low-income solar policy, managing the Solar with Justice: Connecting States and Communities project, and leading the Hydrogen Information and Public Education project. She also supports the Resilient Power Project to provide solar and battery storage technologies to the communities that need it most. Abbe holds a master’s in energy policy from Tufts University, and a bachelor’s in international studies from American University.
Victor Davila, Community organizer and ACTION program manager at The Point Community Development Corporation. Victor has been a Bronx based community organizer for over 16 years and attended the University of Vermont. Victor is a co-founder of the environmental education skate group Eco Ryders and a member of the New York Renews organizing committee.
Daniel Chu, Energy Planner for the New York City Environmental Justice Alliance. Daniel is an urban designer interested in civic involvement in the built environment design and preservation. He has experience working at NYC 2030 District focusing on building efficiency and heat pump retrofits in Brooklyn, and at Urban Design Forum reporting infrastructure maintenance and global zoning practices. He's held various positions with The New School, where he also received a Master of Science in Design and Urban Ecologies and a BA in Urban Studies.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
· Clean Energy Group
· The Point Community Development Corporation
· New York City Environmental Justice Alliance & Peak Coalition
· Assessing the Viability of Hydrogen Proposals: Considerations for State Utility Regulators And Policymakers | Energy Innovation
· Hydrogen Information and Public Education Project Page | Clean Energy Group
· 5 Reasons to Be Concerned About Green Hydrogen | Clean Energy Group
· Hydrogen Heating & Cooking Would Cost Homeowners $100,000+ Extra Over 15 Years | Clean Technica
· Event: Verge Electrify (July 26-29, 2022)
06/23/22 • 56 min

At the COP27 Climate Change Conference, governments representing more half of the global economy announced an action plan to speed the decarbonization of power, road transport, steel, hydrogen, and agriculture. The U.S., Canada, Germany, Japan, and other nations backed a set of 25 "Priority Actions" to decarbonize industry, including scaled deployment of net-zero industrial plants and stimulating global demand for low-carbon industrial goods.
So, what does that COP27 agreement mean for industrial stakeholders? The U.S. industrial sector is ripe for innovation and exciting electrification advancements are paving the way toward decarbonization. This episode discusses industrial heating innovations and outlines why the time is right for industrial corporations to implement the technologies that reduce emissions at scale.
Guest Bios:
Jeffrey Rissman is the Director of Industry with Energy Innovation. Jeff leads the organization’s work on technologies and policies to achieve net-zero GHG emissions from the industrial sector. He is also the creator of the Energy Policy Simulator, a computer model quantifying cost and emissions impacts of various clean energy policies. Jeff holds an M.S. in Environmental Sciences and Engineering and a Masters in City and Regional Planning from UNC Chapel Hill, and a B.A. in International Relations with honors from Stanford University.
Jibran Zuberi is a Research Scholar with Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. He has an engineering background and research experience of working on topics related to industrial energy efficiency, integrated energy systems, and emissions reduction. His current research focuses on developing decarbonization strategies for industrial systems, understanding emerging technologies, and RD&D opportunities. He was a Postdoctoral Researcher at the Institute for Environmental Sciences at the University of Geneva, Switzerland.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- Electrification of U.S. Manufacturing With Industrial Heat Pumps, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Global Efficiency Intelligence (Nov 2022)
- Decarbonizing Low-Temperature Industrial Heat in the U.S., Energy Innovation (Oct 2022)
- Energy Policy Simulator, Energy Innovation
- COP 27 Climate Change Conference https://unfccc.int and The Breakthrough Agenda: A Master Plan to Accelerate Decarbonization of Five Major Sectors
- U.S. Department of Energy Advanced Manufacturing & Industrial Decarbonization Offices
At the COP27 Climate Change Conference, governments representing more half of the global economy announced an action plan to speed the decarbonization of power, road transport, steel, hydrogen, and agriculture. The U.S., Canada, Germany, Japan, and other nations backed a set of 25 "Priority Actions" to decarbonize industry, including scaled deployment of net-zero industrial plants and stimulating global demand for low-carbon industrial goods.
So, what does that COP27 agreement mean for industrial stakeholders? The U.S. industrial sector is ripe for innovation and exciting electrification advancements are paving the way toward decarbonization. This episode discusses industrial heating innovations and outlines why the time is right for industrial corporations to implement the technologies that reduce emissions at scale.
Guest Bios:
Jeffrey Rissman is the Director of Industry with Energy Innovation. Jeff leads the organization’s work on technologies and policies to achieve net-zero GHG emissions from the industrial sector. He is also the creator of the Energy Policy Simulator, a computer model quantifying cost and emissions impacts of various clean energy policies. Jeff holds an M.S. in Environmental Sciences and Engineering and a Masters in City and Regional Planning from UNC Chapel Hill, and a B.A. in International Relations with honors from Stanford University.
Jibran Zuberi is a Research Scholar with Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. He has an engineering background and research experience of working on topics related to industrial energy efficiency, integrated energy systems, and emissions reduction. His current research focuses on developing decarbonization strategies for industrial systems, understanding emerging technologies, and RD&D opportunities. He was a Postdoctoral Researcher at the Institute for Environmental Sciences at the University of Geneva, Switzerland.
To Dig in Deeper, Check out these Must-Read Resources:
- Electrification of U.S. Manufacturing With Industrial Heat Pumps, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Global Efficiency Intelligence (Nov 2022)
- Decarbonizing Low-Temperature Industrial Heat in the U.S., Energy Innovation (Oct 2022)
- Energy Policy Simulator, Energy Innovation
- COP 27 Climate Change Conference https://unfccc.int and The Breakthrough Agenda: A Master Plan to Accelerate Decarbonization of Five Major Sectors
- U.S. Department of Energy Advanced Manufacturing & Industrial Decarbonization Offices
11/21/22 • 48 min
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