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ADP on Closing the Pay Gap with Data
The Data Chief
03/08/23 • 35 min
The implications of employment shifts have different effects on certain subsets of the population. Understanding these implications in real time helps businesses, governments, and individuals make better decisions about what to do next. ADP serves its customers in more ways than just payroll, taxes, and employment benefits. CDO Jack Berkowitz shares more about these benefits, and the parts of ADP’s business dedicated to reporting and sharing data.
Tune in to learn:
- Managing high data volumes and maintaining data reliability at ADP (03:05)
- Real-time employment data about equity in the workforce (05:33)
- Monetizing data and how that has changed (09:35)
- The end of FTP? (12:06)
- The role of payroll data plays to tell the truth about diversity and inclusion in the workforce. (19:45)
- Jack’s personal career shift from the vendor to end-user (27:08)
- Lightning Round (28:00)
Mentions:
- ADP National Employment Report
- Edward Tufte https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/
- Randy Pausch https://www.cmu.edu/randyslecture/story/index.html
- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221514864_Storytelling_Alice_motivates_middle_school_girls_to_learn_computer_programming
- Beau Miles - Backyard Adventurer https://beaumiles.com/the-backyard-adventurer/
- the video that I watch over and over: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvT5XS7j-Dc
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Société Générale’s Innovation Data & AI Leader Julien Molez on Creating a Value-Driven Data Framework
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09/21/22 • 45 min
At French bank, Société Générale, providing the best customer experience in the modern digital world means rethinking everything about banking, including its corporate structure. Three years ago, Julien Molez, joined the bank’s leadership team to become the first Innovation Data & AI Leader. On this episode of The Data Chief, Julien addresses changes sweeping the banking industry, including higher customer expectations, tougher regulations, and the ESG revolution. He also reminds us that at the end of the day, fancy AI models and algorithms will only perform as well as the data that goes into them.
Tune in to learn:
- Creating a value-driven data framework (06:31)
- How do you achieve customer personalization while adhering to GDPR? (15:29)
- How do you truly secure data at all touchpoints? (20:29)
- How is Société Générale leading in ESG reporting? (23:44)
- What were Société Générale’s unique challenges in scaling up AI use cases? (28:55)
- How do you educate business stakeholders about the best data possibilities? (35:56)
- What is a key data framework technique? (40:00)
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Boehringer Ingelheim’s Dr. Victoria Gamerman on Design Thinking in Healthcare and Creating a Data-Sharing Ecosystem
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06/29/22 • 46 min
How can data be activated to create better healthcare outcomes? Dr. Victoria Gamerman, the Global Head of Data Governance and Insights at Boehringer Ingelheim, offers that part of the answer is that data is changing to be thought of as part of the broader healthcare “ecosystem.” Listen in for how some of the philosophical frameworks concerning data can help to improve healthcare.
Tune in to learn:
- Changes in how data is being used in healthcare (07:00)
- How a system could be set up to share health data safely and wisely (13:05)
- How design thinking can apply to healthcare (25:41)
- What data mentality needs to change (28:26)
Mentions:
- HBS Professor Linda Hill Says Leaders Must Engage with Emotions as Never Before
- Clayton Christensen - "Jobs to be Done" theory
- “Coded Bias” (movie)
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Show Notes for YouTube:
How can data be activated to create better healthcare outcomes? Dr. Victoria Gamerman, the Global Head of Data Governance and Insights at Boehringer Ingelheim, offers that part of the answer is that data is changing to be thought of as part of the broader healthcare “ecosystem.” Listen in for more of Victoria’s takes on how data can improve healthcare.
Key Moments:
00:00 Getting to know Victoria and her career journey
04:26 What sort of work does Boehringer Ingelheim do?
07:00 What are some changes in how data is being used in healthcare?
10:24 Is sharing health data becoming easier?
13:05 Creating a system to Share health data safely and wisely
16:42 Will wellness data become more integrated?
19:47 Are regulators behind technologically?
25:41 How does design thinking apply in healthcare?
28:26 What mentality about data needs to change?
30:37: Data and academia
36:54 How can we bring people along in terms of data?
38:33 Learning from data disasters
42:11 How does Victoria continue to learn new things?
Mentions:
- HBS Professor Linda Hill Says Leaders Must Engage with Emotions as Never Before
- Clayton Christensen - "Jobs to be Done" theory
- “Coded Bias” (movie)
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Who’s hungry? Thanks to delivery apps like DoorDash, it’s never been easier for modern consumers to satisfy almost any craving in just a few taps. At the helm of DoorDash’s data organization is VP of Analytics & Data Science, Jessica Lachs. With metrics guiding every decision at the company, a key part of her decision-making comes down to properly quantifying the value of each possible tradeoff. Learn more about her decision-making framework, plus how her career in finance evolved into entrepreneurship and ultimately led her to create the data and analytics organization at DoorDash.
Tune in to learn:
- Using data to move levers that balance tradeoffs (09:28)
- Managing an unpredictable and complicated supply chain (12:26)
- The confluence of personalization and consumer privacy (15:08)
- Strategy for data architecting by the DoorDash team (21:00
- Cultivating a creative team that also communicates effectively (26:59)
- Unlikely career journey: Lehman Brothers to entrepreneurship (33:00)
- Cultivating a positive response to failure (35:51)
- Lightning Round (40:15)
Mentions:
- DoorDash Restaurant Online Ordering Trends
- Building a Source for Truth for a Digital Inventory with Disparate Data Sources
- How To Drive Effective Data Science Communications
- The Rose Code: A Novel by Kate Quinn
- The Love Songs of W.E.B. Du Bois by Honorée Fanonne Jeffers
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Swiss RE’s SVP of P&C R&D, Jerry Gupta on AI Innovation and Building Revenue-Enhacing Data Models
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07/27/22 • 50 min
Swiss RE’s SVP of P&C R&D, Jerry Gupta is a firm believer in the revenue-generating potential and AI and machine learning. On this episode of The Data Chief, Jerry offers his view on innovative data model, frameworks for building and operationalizing these models, what makes a good data scientist, and why it will always be more challenging for data teams to maintain existing models vs. innovate new ones.
Tune in to learn:
- The difference between ost cutting versus revenue-enhancing initiatives 03:20
- More about the Data Model framework 07:50
- Why the quality of your output depends on the quality of your input 11:35
- How to address the shortfall of data scientists in the job market 13:48
- How to set more clear value statements for models 27:56
- More about informing the regulation of ethical AI and machine learning 45:33
Mentions:
- McKinsey Global Survey: "The state of AI in 2021"
- "Unreasonable effectiveness of learning neural networks: From accessible states and robust ensembles to basic algorithmic schemes"
- Tom Davenport
- International Risk Governance Center - EPFL
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What keeps a data pro at one company for almost thirty years? On this episode of The Data Chief, Pascale Hutz, the Chief Data Officer and EVP of Enterprise Digital & Data Solutions at American Express, shares how her career at American Express has transformed over the years and what she’s learned along the way. Tune in to hear more about her latest cloud migration journey, why she’s on a “mission to decommission,” and how she fights imposter syndrome even as a C-level executive in one of the largest, most impactful financial services firms in the world.
Tune in to learn:
- About Pascale’s career journey (03:41)
- That data should be considered like a product 14:18:
- How to stay tranquil during transformation (17:02)
- The importance of decommissioning tech (21:21)
Mentions:
- "Data Mesh: Delivering Data-Driven Value at Scale" (written by Zhamak Dehghani)
- World50
- “Enterprise Data Platforms, American Express, VP: The Data Landscape is Evolving Continuously”
- “Not Impossible” (written by Mick Ebeling)
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Three Must Read Data and Analytics Books with Tim Harford, Zhamak Dehghani, and Brent Dykes
The Data Chief
09/07/22 • 88 min
It is once again that time of year when our host, Cindi Howson shares her favorite data and analytics book recommendations. In this special annual episode, we feature three of the industry’s top data writers, thinkers, and fellow podcasters. Tim Harford comes to the conversation with his new book, The Data Detective, and big-picture ideas about how traits like curiosity serve data scientists so well. Zhamak Dehghani shares her concept of The Data Mesh, especially as it relates to sharing data across business verticals. Finally, in his book, Effective Data Storytelling, Brent Dykes compels readers to think carefully about the way they craft the message or narrative around the data they’re interpreting.
Tune in to learn:
- Making sense of the world through a data lens with Tim Harford (05:18)
- Tim’s favorite of the ten data commandments (07:11)
- Guard against using data as a control mechanism (15:14)
- How does curiosity create a healthier relationship with data? (19:57)
- Data Mesh with Zhamak Dehghani (32:31)
- Blending centralized and decentralized schools of thought (36:39)
- Data Mesh isn’t for everyone (48:11)
- How do you begin your data mesh transformation? (53:28)
- Brent Dykes and the importance of data storytelling (1:02:17)
- Why do data scientists need to be better communicators? (1:11:13)
- The Venn diagram of data storytelling (1:15:14)
Mentions:
- The Data Detective: Ten Easy Rules to Make Sense of Statistics by Tim Harford
- Data Mesh: Delivering Data-Driven Value at Scale by Zhamak Dehghani
- Effective Data Storytelling: How to Drive Change with Data, Narrative, and Visuals by Brent Dykes
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Prudential Financial’s CDO Kjersten Moody on Continuous Learning & Collaboration to Drive Impact with Data
The Data Chief
06/15/22 • 55 min
What does it take to turn a new position that never existed into one that delivers transformation for an entire organization? As the first Chief Data Officer at Prudential Financial and the initial Chief Data Analytics Officer at a prior career stop at State Farm, Kjersten Moody knows the answer. Tune in to learn how being a constant learner has consistently allowed her to see challenges as opportunities for growth.
Tune in to learn:
- How Kjersten’s role model influenced her life and career (04:08)
- How Prudential is thinking differently about its strategy and data (32:28)
- About the role that a good culture can play in supporting transformation (36:19)
- How Kjersten has elevated data science at Prudential (42:33)
- How to meet stakeholders in a place that’s helpful to them (47:38)
Mentions:
- “The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right” by Atul Gawande
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How do you make innovation truly come alive? For Abhi Bhatt, the AVP, Technology, Data & Analytics at CarMax, innovation is about using data to change “business models.” Abhi also describes the need to train up teammates and others who use the data concerning technological advances. Additionally, he shares his career journey and how his positive experience as a CarMax customer initially activated his interest in the company.
Tune in to learn:
- How did Abhi end up working at CarMax? (13:00)
- How can companies make the most of their internal data? (17:18)
- How do you train up relevant parties concerning new technology? (23:41)
- How does Abhi find talent? (27:56)
- How does Abhi keep up with so much innovation? (37:07)
Mentions:
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New Zealand's Crown Research Institute CDAO, Jan Sheppard on Treating Data as a Treasure
The Data Chief
10/05/22 • 48 min
Treating data as a treasure is a foundational principle for Jan Sheppard, the Chief Data and Analytics officer at New Zealand’s Crown Research Institute of Environmental Science and Research (ESR.) This agency leads ongoing research in public health, environmental health, and forensics for the country of New Zealand. Like many other CDAOs, her role is relatively new. But the unique values she applies to data can be traced back many hundreds of years to the indigenous Maori people of her country. Through her work, Jan recognizes the profound impact data can have on people and their environments for generations to come. Learn more about the important climate and health policy challenges that ESR is working to solve with data in this episode, plus her take on data literacy vs. business savviness, and why her data strategy is just two pages long.
Tune in to learn:
- How do you make vastly different data work together at ESR? (07:12)
- Data’s role as a treasure (11:43)
- How do government and private companies look at data differently (13:50)
- How do you guard against the misuse of data? (18:39)
- Dangers of misinterpreting the models and need for data-savvy. (21:16)
- Jan’s data North Star - recognizing the value of the data (25:10)
- Goal to create digital twins to help address climate change (30:13)
- Working around the difficulty of unstandardized ESG reporting (34:05)
- Maori values and data at ESR - the life force of data (40:35)
Mentions:
- The Innovators: How a Group of Hackers, Geniuses, and Geeks Created the Digital Revolution book by Walter Isaacson
- ESR’s Data Strategy
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The Data Chief currently has 72 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Management, Podcasts, Technology and Business.
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The episode title 'ADP on Closing the Pay Gap with Data' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on The Data Chief is 44 minutes.
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Episodes of The Data Chief are typically released every 14 days.
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The first episode of The Data Chief was released on Apr 22, 2020.
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