#7 Justice in a World of Trauma: Roxanne Lawson

In this episode Azeb Kinder and Jason Biehl discuss their work ending white privilege through antiracist education. This discussion covers a wide range of topics (time stamps below) but focusses on both Azeb and Jason became educators who focus on ending white privilege primarily using the tool of antiracist education trainings focussed on white audeinces.
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Time stamps:
0:00​ Introduction
2:59​ Azeb's background
6:49​ The Baha'i Faith and what it means to Azeb
11:11​ Azeb's first learnings about interrogating whiteness
14:37​ The problem with traditional anti-racist trainings
16:26​ How did Jason become involved with anti-racism work and St. Albans as a place that may have supported apartheid
25:45​ The legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr
33:43​ Why are we still talking about white supremacy?
38:03​ Is change even possible?
43:19​ Why should white folks be part of anti-racist movements?
47:28​ Capitalism isn't very good for white folks, but racism is still real
57:09​ What people need vs what they want
1:05:05​ Has Jason gotten through to elites?
1:11: 55 Practical tips for white folks
1:20:16​ We still have a long way to go