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02/01/22 • 49 min
Summary: Today, Holly and Devin connect to discuss books that feature writers as their protagonists. They review how the protagonists’ writing careers are used as catalysts for plot and for character growth. Publicity and fandom are a major theme across both books, and they end by agreeing that writers as protagonists is only effective when the author of the book itself is adept and not using it to be lazy and “writing what they know” too much.
Topics Discussed:
- The Heart (19:41): Devin discussed Seven Days in June by Tia Williams, a book where both main protagonists are writers. Her key takeaways were:
- The book featured one of her top 10 sex scenes of 2021; an unusual (and public!) location, a surprising reunion and a release of fantastically pent-up tension.
- Williams took romance novels to a more literary place by touching on themes of chronic illness, BIPOC struggles in America, and recovering from childhood trauma.
- While the main pair are drawn together by chemistry and shared history, the ultimate success of the book is the demonstration of love and lifestyle as a conscious, mature choice.
- The Dagger (2:14): Holly brought Misery by Stephen King to the table, with Paul Sheldon as the acclaimed author of the Misery series. Her key takeaways were:
- The exploration of addiction was a fascinating throughline of the novel, with Paul being drawn in by painkillers supplied by his captor, Annie, and Annie having an unhealthy relationship to Paul and his series.
- Horror is not just jump scares but often disgusting, creepy, and off-putting in less “fear-inducing” ways, but that are more elaborately terrifying. King executes on true horror well in Misery.
- King explores what it means to be a writer, with Paul physically trapped in not just this house, but in a literal chair with the keyboard strapped on top of his lap.
- Hot On the Shelf (39:30):
- Holly: Hell of a Book by Jason Mott
- Devin: Originals by Adam Grant
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (42:43):
- Holly: “The Tragedy of MacBeth” film with Denzel Washington and Frances McDormand
- Devin: “Don’t Look Up” film with Leo DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence
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Keywords: Misery, Stephen King, Tia Williams, Seven Days in June, Writers, Horror, Romance, Macbeth, The Tragedy of MacBeth, Don’t Look Up, Denzel Washington, Frances McDormand, Leo DiCaprio, Jennifer Lawrence, Literature, Books, Reading, Bookish, Pop-Culture
Ep. 53: Podcasters (None of This Is True + Hana Khan Carries On)
Hearts & Daggers
01/16/24 • 54 min
Summary: Let’s get meta, friends! Today, Holly and Devin talk through books with podcasters as the protagonists. They use this podcast medium to dig into the value of podcasting and the way that an audio medium impacts our lives, for better and for much, much worse. Due to its growing popularity in the last decade - true crime for Holly and comedy/science for Devin - podcasts are more and more featured in books and as podcasters themselves, our hosts are all for it. They’ll stop saying “podcast” so much now...
Topics Discussed:
- The Dagger (3:20): Holly discussed None of This Is True by Lisa Jewell, a psychological thriller that follows popular podcaster Alix Summers as she crosses paths with an unassuming woman named Josie Fair. After Josie pitches herself as the subject in one of Alix’s podcast episodes, the women become progressively more entwined and Alix is left to uncover the dark, terrible legacy of Josie after her sudden disappearance. Holly’s key takeaways were:
- Jewell alternates the POV between Alix and Josie and includes excerpts from the podcast episodes they record; Holly recommends this book on audio specifically because of the mixed media elements.
- From the start, Alix and Josie are foils for each other. Alix is pretty, upper middle class, successful and fulfilled in her work. Josie is frumpy, constantly described as wearing denim everything and married to a man almost 30 years her senior. Jewell weaves them together in a fascinating and terrifying way.
- As the title indicates, Jewell masterfully balances perspective (via Alix, who is uncertain about who Josie is and whether to keep working with her) such that the reader even to the end cannot feel confident in who to believe and where lies the truth.
- The Heart (20:22): Devin discussed Hana Khan Carries On by Uzma Jalaluddin, a “You’ve Got Mail” retelling that follows Hana Khan as she balances her passion for podcasting with her efforts to save her mother’s halal restaurant, Three Sisters Biryani Poutine. When a competitor, Wholistic Burgers and Grill, opens on the same street, Hana is thrown into battle against the charming and gorgeous Aydin Shah. With her podcast, Ana’s Brown Girl Rambles, as a solace and the dedicated listener Stanley P as a confidant, how can Hana do it all? Devin’s key takeaways were:
- Instead of email for this Rom Com re-do, Aydin and Hana come together and are kept apart by her podcast and their DMs. Her engagement with audio allows the reader to explore what having a voice means, especially with moments of anti-muslim hate crime in the story.
- Yes, this is a romance but Jalaluddin focuses on Hana as a full and complete woman outside of romantic love, and explores self-love, familial love, and community love and care through the novel - with a special emphasis on the Toronto Golden Crescent neighborhood.
- With concerns over the failing restaurant run by her mother for so long, Hana has to fight to keep traditions alive but also has deep passion for audio broadcasting and the modern ways people connect to each other. Both Aydin and Hana have to wrestle with those pressures and the possible gentrification of their Muslim neighborhood in Scarborough.
- Hot On the Shelf (39:09):
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (43:08):
- Holly: A new season of reading in 2024
- Devin: Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
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10/24/23 • 54 min
Summary: Welcome to (ripped out) Hearts and (wooden) Daggers, where today we discuss our fanged frenemies - vampires! Whether you enjoy Edward Cullen at the height of sparky, pop-culture vibes or Bram Stoker’s original work, it’s hard to top vampires when you think of the best monsters of spooky season. Holly and Devin both appreciate the way vampires are simultaneously sexy and alluring and also genuinely terrifying, and the books they bring today perfectly encapsulate that versatility.
Topics Discussed:
- The Heart (3:01): Devin discussed My Roommate is a Vampire by Jenna Levine, a novel following Cassie Greenberg as she works to survive and thrive as an artist in Chicago. With a crazy limited budget and a “too good to be true” craigslist ad looking for a roommate, she meets Frederick J. Fitzwilliam - a vampire looking to blend into modernity. Devin’s key takeaways were:
- Frederick as a vampire walks the line between a unique twist to fit into 2023 while holding to a lot of traditional vampiric traits - he cannot enter a building without being invited but he can go out into the sun.
- This spooky story has many of Devin’s favorite romance tropes that any romance reader will enjoy sinking their teeth into (get it? *winks awkwardly*): arranged marriage, roommates/forced proximity, forbidden love, and “looks like they could kill you but is actually a cinnamon roll” to name a few.
- While the focal point remains Cassie and Frederick throughout, the cast of supporting characters and the multimedia narrative approach (featuring text threads, emails, diary entries etc.) add colorful dimensions that really make this romance come to life.
- The Dagger (24:35): Holly discussed Vampires of El Norte by Isabel Cañas, a historical horror romance novel set in 1840s Medico. We follow 13 year-old Nena as she and her vaquero friend Nestor decide to find buried silver in a place where little lights gleam up from the ground - legend says it was left by a Spanish explorer and could hold the key to Nena’s freedom from arranged marriage. Nothing goes according to plan, though, and the disastrous night they go to search leaves too much unresolved. Holly’s key takeaways were:
- The vampires in this book are represented as actual monstrous creatures: gray skin, no eyes, mouths full of sharp teeth. Cañas also leaves the reader to contemplate on the vampiric nature of the colonialist Anglos who haunt the communities and suck them dry of everything the locals have built and grown.
- There is a surprising amount of romance in this book! A great middle ground for Hearts & Daggers listeners alike. Nena’s fight to choose her own life and get out from under her volatile father’s thumb is accentuated by a high-stakes romance that builds tensions throughout.
- The gothic, Mexican west atmosphere of the novel fits perfectly for the plot and the monsters you’ll encounter; Cañas infuses a lot of descriptions of the chaparral (scrublands that exist between ranchos and towns) with the storytelling and lore sharing by Nena’s abuela and the rancho’s curandera (healer).
- Hot On the Shelf (43:56):
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (49:35):
- Devin: The season of Autumn
- Holly: A Haunting in Venice
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Ep. 50: LoveFest (Fredrik Backman)
Hearts & Daggers
12/05/23 • 62 min
Summary: It’s time for another awesome LoveFest with Devin and Holly! This week they discuss Swedish author extraordinaire, Fredrik Backman. Known globally for his stories full of heart, redemption, and seeking meaning in the hardest parts of life, he’s been a long-time favorite of both hosts. He sheds light on octogenarians and children, the ignored and the marginalized in his writing and brings would-be villains into a gentle light. We love rooting for all his characters!
Topics Discussed:
- Background (4:39): Backman debuted with A Man Called Ove in 2012 and lives in Sweden with his wife and two children; Holly and Devin discuss how they discovered his work and stand-out aspects of his writing.
- Curmudgeon Book Discussion (10:59):
- A Man Called Ove: After his wife’s death, Ove decides life isn’t worth living. But life has a funny way of pulling you back in and with a colorful and caring cast of characters, this grump discovers just how much there is to live for.
- My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She’s Sorry: After the death of her sole caretaker and grandmother, Elsa is left with a series of letters addressed to residents of their apartment building. The adventure she goes on to deliver them opens up Elsa’s world and reveals a community she never thought she had.
- Britt-Marie Was Here: A sequel to “My Grandmother...” this novel hones in on the strict, cleanliness- and rules-focused character Britt-Marie as she leaves her unfaithful husband and tries to rebuild her life in the decrepit town of Borg. There, she uncovers that the colorful inhabitants of the town are much more than meets he eye and that perhaps, sometimes, mess is ok.
- Recent Book Discussion (26:02):
- And Every Morning the Way Home Gets Longer and Longer: This tear-jerker focuses on loss, aging, and dementia as three generations of men confront the decline of the grandfather.
- Anxious People: Following a failed robbery attempt at a cashless bank in a small Swedish town, this novel examines what happens when strangers become entwined in a hilarious hostage situation and compassion and vulnerability win the day.
- Beartown Series (35:20):
- A three-book series ( Beartown, Us Against You, The Winners), Backman explores a tiny community in a frozen north-Sweden forest that revolves around it’s hockey teams. His magnum opus, these stories follow the junior ice hockey team, it’s coaches, players, and parents, as they struggle to survive trauma, a declining economy, and other challenges. Trigger warning for sexual assault.
- Hot On the Shelf (51:54):
- Devin: Do Your Worst by Rosie Danan
- Holly: Happiness Falls by Angie Kim
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (55:30):
- Devin: David Sedaris Live Reading at CU Boulder
- Holly: Killers of the Flower Moon movie (you can check out the book here!)
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Ep. 52: Debut Authors (Lunar Love + Winter Counts)
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01/02/24 • 48 min
Summary: Welcome to year three of Hearts & Daggers, friends! We are so delighted you are along on this ride with us. To get 2024 started, Holly and Devin are digging into books by debut authors. There may be nothing more impressive that someone who puts their heart and hard work on the line to publish their first book. It’s not only difficult to get published in the first place, but once your book is out there are thousands if not millions of people who experience your finished work. Holly and Devin both love reading debuts, finding that the more diverse voices added to the canon the more they enjoy diving in.
Topics Discussed:
- The Heart (3:45): Devin discussed Lunar Love by Lauren Kung Jessen, an enemies-to-lovers centered around Olivia Huang Christenson and Bennett O’Brien as they go head-to-head in a competition to see whose Chinese zodiac matchmaking approach is best. Liv is working hard to maintain the traditions of her grandmother’s matchmaking business and Bennett has launched a new dating app that recommends matches using the Chinese zodiac. Devin’s key takeaways were:
- The crux of the romance and the plot of the novel is the push/pull between tradition and innovation. How can one maintain culture via traditional practices and where should technology and new perspectives impact those traditions?
- Devin is year of the Horse and Holly is year of the Snake, but either had been exposed very much to the Chinese zodiac before Devin read this book; Kung Jessen pulls from her Chinese-American heritage to add a unique cultural and historical perspective to the novel without making it seem like a lesson at school.
- Lunar Love was a bit light on the romance side and not very steamy. That being said, it was built authentically through Liv and Bennett’s competition. Reading how each of them watched each other on dates that they themselves orchestrated and the complicated feelings there was especially enjoyable.
- The Dagger (19:22): Holly discussed Winter Counts by David Heska Wanbli Weiden, a crime thriller following Virgil Wounded Horse as he delivers vigilante justice for his Lakota Nation community when the American legal system and the trivial council fall short. When heroin makes its way onto the reservation and directly impacts Virgil’s nephew, his career in vigilantism suddenly becomes personal. Holly’s key takeaways were:
- This novel was not only an extremely solid debut, but an important fresh voice for the triller genre; it was character-driven and a slower build in terms of action, but Holly read it in a day and found it was impossible to put down.
- Winter Counts explores themes of justice and the corruption that can preclude real accountability and fairness within not only the federal policing system as it interacts with the Native communities, but also the tribal councils themselves and the cascading impacts it has on the people.
- Through Virgil and the other characters of the book, Weiden explores not only how personal history and trauma influence perspectives and actions but also the challenges of maintaining and evolving cultural identity and traditions for the Native communities in the modern era.
- Hot On the Shelf (35:26):
- Holly: The Eyes Are the Best Part by Monika Kim
- Devin: The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (41:29):
- Holly: Rewatching Avatar: The Last Airbender
- Devin: The Old Man and the Pool by Mike Bribiglia
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Ep. 67: Colorado (The Gamble + No Exit)
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07/30/24 • 44 min
Summary: Devin would like to welcome you all to her state! On this stop of their Summer Road Trip, Holly and Devin discuss books set in the Rocky Mountain state. Even though we’re all battling heat waves, both their books feature blizzards, being snowed in, and close quarters tension. In every other way, though, the plots differ drastically. Known for its outdoor culture, snow skiing, and craft beer this state has a lot to offer those seeking an adrenaline rush like our hosts!
Topics Discussed:
- The Heart (5:21): Devin discussed The Gamble by Kristen Ashley, a second-chances romance that follows Nina Sheridan, a visitor to the mountain town of Gnaw Bone, as she finds herself stuck in a gorgeous A-frame home with the homeowner, Holden “Max” Maxwell due to a rental mixup. Escaping to Colorado to think about her future and her neglectful fiancé back in the UK, Nina was hoping for peace and quiet but Max brings anything but; can she withstand the allure of this sexy mountain man? Devin’s key takeaways were:
- This is a quintessential Colorado book. Very strong sense of place, small town with resort energy on the sides and picturesque with the start of a blizzard and lots of good views, mountains, valleys, dive bars. Devin spent a good chunk of it wondering if it was modeled after the town she lives in specifically.
- There are trigger warnings for sexual abuse and violence, physical violence and threats. This book has heavy trauma, for every single character; it classifies as trauma porn in a lot of ways. If you like watching people who have suffered and then work to support, grow, and love each other this book will work great for you.
- There is a simmering tension between Max and Nina right from the start and while some of the build up is the annoying “interrupted” trope, it is a blast to read and experience. The book takes its time building everything and the side characters/town play a huge part, but the care, chemistry and overall vibes between our protagonists carry you through.
- The Dagger (21:08): Holly discussed No Exit by Taylor Adams, a psychological thriller that follows college student Darby Thorne on her frantic drive home to Utah to see her dying mother. In the mountains of Colorado, a blizzard forces her to stop at a remote highway rest stop. Trying to find cell service in the parking lot, Darby discovers a little girl locked in an animal crate in the van near her car; the situation becomes increasingly dangerous from there. Holly’s key takeaways were:
- The novel explores themes of survival as Darby must use her wits, courage, and resourcefulness to navigate the life-threatening situation and protect herself and the kidnapped girl. Adams underlines the moral choices characters make in extreme circumstances for good or evil; Darby’s determination to save the girl contrasts sharply with the kidnapper’s sinister motives.
- We aren’t seeing broader life in Colorado, but the book uses the wintry elements to great effect to increase the tension and stakes in the story. The setting of the remote, snowed-in rest stop amplifies themes of isolation and vulnerability. The characters are cut off from the outside world, heightening the sense of danger and urgency.
- No Exit has various twists and a nail-biting pace, even some horror elements. It reminded Holly a bit of The Shining just in the way of feeling trapped and isolated in a wintry wasteland. The reader feels the intensity of trying to survive as Darby uses her wits, courage, and resourcefulness to navigate the life-threatening situation.
- Hot On the Shelf (35:54):
- Devin: Micro Activism: How You Can Make a Difference in the World Without a Bullhorn by Omkari L. Williams
- Holly: The Feast by Margaret Kennedy
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (39:07):
- Devin: Bob’s Burgers
- Holly: New rescue dog, Toki!
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Ep. 65: Texas (Pumpkin + Bluebird Bluebird)
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07/02/24 • 44 min
Summary: Howdy, partners! Stop number three on our road trip this summer is the Lone Star state - Texas! Join Holly and Devin as they take a romp around the second largest state in the union. It’s huge, it’s hot and as Holly underlines, tensions tend to run high. A melting pot of the West, the South, American and Mexican influences, Texas really does have it all. Holly and Devin share the ends of the spectrum with their books today.
Topics Discussed:
- The Heart (3:55): Devin discussed Pumpkin by Julie Murphy, a novel that follows Waylon Russell Brewer as his private, quiet drag aspirations are exploded into the public sphere after his audition tape for Fiercest of Them All (a drag show à la RuPaul’s Drag Race) is released. As a cruel joke, he and his twin sister’s girlfriend Hannah Perez are nominated as Prom Queen and King respectively. Instead of caving to the bullies, Waylon and Hannah decide to play to win. Devin’s key takeaways were:
- This is such a gay book; it’s amazing, it’s flamboyant, it’s loud and proud and includes so much drag. Waylon and his twin Clementine are both gay and we meet a myriad of other queer characters throughout. Whether some characters are already out or not, this book vibrates with positive energy for the queer community.
- When you hear about a queer book set in Texas, you go in assuming a central tension will be community rejection of the queer character but that was not the case in this book. Waylon’s parents accept him and his sister right away and there’s a Prism group of fully out high school students - most people aren’t repressed and even one character comes out during the book. Yes there’s bullying and vitriol but the school supports LGBTQ students and the tone overall is uplifting and supportive.
- As a high school story, this book explores the evolving sense of self we all remember from that age. While the focus is on Waylon with a first-person narrative structure, we see every character in the book evolve who they believe they are into who they can be.
- The Dagger (15:47): Holly discussed Bluebird Bluebird by Attica Locke, a literary mystery set in East Texas in 2016. We follow Darren Matthews, a Texas Ranger who has recently been suspended and is called over to Shelby County to help investigate two bodies, one of which recently washed up on the shore of a local woman’s back yard. Holly’s key takeaways were:
- Racial tensions abound in this novel. The bodies found were a Black man from Chicago and a local white woman. Darren also struggles with his own identity as a Black man and having to balance being a Texas Ranger with wanting to do right by his community, including the Black community that congregates at Geneva’s.
- Locke underlines the importance and value of community, particularly how the Black community in the town has had to find joy and safety where they can. How places like Geneva’s serve as a haven for locals or anyone passing through.
- Darren’s career has put strain on his relationship w his wife Lisa, so he’s also navigating being recently kicked out and wanting to go back, while also not wanting to give up his purpose or turn down cases like these.
- Hot On the Shelf (34:25):
- Devin: Lady Charlotte Always Gets Her Man by Violet Marsh
- Holly: Like Mother, Like Daughter by Kimberly McCreight
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (38:12):
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Ep. 37: Italy (Death at La Fenice + One Italian Summer)
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06/06/23 • 52 min
Summary: Ciao, bella! Welcome to the first stop on our Summer Jetset Series - Italy! Today Devin and Holly visit Venice and Positano together to understand the close relationship between love and death in Italy. Since the time of Shakespeare, the country has been a place of passion in literature (second only, perhaps, to France). They agree that regardless of your prior experience visiting the country, novels set in the country are always vivid, intriguing, and colorful.
Topics Discussed:
- The Dagger (4:19): Holly discussed Death at La Fenice by Donna Leon, a crime fiction novel set in Venice featuring the fictional hero Commissario Guido Brunetti. The book opens at the end of intermission at Teatro La Fenice; the conductor, Maestro Wallauer, has been poisoned and is dead on the floor of his dressing room. Holly’s key takeaways were:
- The mystery of who killed the Maestro is a slow burn through the book. Brunetti’s tactics are conversation focused, and the novel is the opposite of a templated popcorn thriller. That being said, it came together very effectively by the end.
- Leon has lived in Venice for years and brought her experiences to the page; we get great behind-the-scenes looks at the Venetian opera house, excursions by canal around the city, and a colorful cast of Italian characters (most of whom are constantly smoking and drinking coffee)
- This series is the Italian cousin to the Bruno Chief of Police series set in southern France; if you’re a fan of Louise Penny you’ll also likely enjoy these books!
- The Heart (17:35): Devin discussed One Italian Summer by Rebecca Searle, a novel set in Positano that follows Katy Silver on a vacation that was intended as a mother-daughter trip. When Katy’s mother dies before they can make it to the Amalfi Coast, Katy’s entire sense of reality and herself is turned upside down. She is unsure if she wants to stay in her marriage, and uses the vacation to get some space. Devin’s key takeaways were:
- This is essentially a time travel story; once Katy arrives, she meets her own mother (Carol) at 30 years old in the summer she had spent in Positano before meeting her husband and settling down. The time travel element isn’t fully explained and the reader is left unsure of how Katy travels back and forth across decades (best not to think too hard on this and just enjoy the story).
- Searle explores this mother-daughter relationship in-depth through the novel. Katy has a romantic fling as well, but ultimately the book posits that Carol is her soulmate. Katy must learn how to reframe herself as an individual, instead of as a bonded pair with her mother.
- Regardless of the plot holes, this novel had such vivid descriptions of Positano, the hotels, the hills, the restaurants, even Katy’s outfits, that the reader is fully drawn into the Italian adventure. The sense of place could not be stronger.
- Hot On the Shelf (38:34):
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (41:15):
- Holly: Libro.fm
- Devin: Ted Lasso Season 3
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09/26/23 • 49 min
Summary: Grab your beakers and your wolverine traps - Holly and Devin are talking biologists today! The more specific our themes get, the more fascinating we find the comparisons between books in our wheelhouses get; both books have a heavy focus on women in STEM and making careers in male-dominated fields, but while one gets your blood pumping with a fake dating trope, the other has your hackles up with the scent of murder. Overall, books featuring biologists and other scientists are entering the zeitgeist in a real way - with “Cli-fi” (climate change disaster fiction) and “women in STEM” rich ground for the modern writer.
Topics Discussed:
- The Heart (2:10): Devin discussed The Love Hypothesis by Ali Hazelwood, a STEM-y (get it?) story following third-year PhD candidate Olive Smith as she navigates her career and convincing her best friend Anh that she’s over her ex so that Anh will finally cave and date him herself. To prove that Anh has the green light, Ali decides to show and not tell by kissing the first man she sees - who unfortunately happens to be Adam Carlsen, the hotshot professor who is notorious for his scathing feedback and relentlessly high expectations in the department. Devin’s key takeaways were:
- The fake dating trope has never been more delicious to read; Adam needs to prove to his department head that he’s putting down roots and not planning to leave the university so his research funds get released, and Olive is desperate to help her friend find her own happy ending.
- Hazelwood confronts some very real, very upsetting realities for women working in STEM and navigating careers when internal politics, sexism, and unfair power dynamics create barriers at every stage; yes this is a romance, but it’s also an accurate and incisive look at what blocks success for anyone that isn’t a cis man in the sciences.
- This book features Hazelwood’s now trademark steaminess; Adam Carlsen reminds Devin of a brooding, cinnamon-roll-on-the-inside Adam Driver (so, basically, just Adam Driver); if you’re looking for a sexy, tension-filled romance balanced out by real science, this book is for you.
- The Dagger (18:27): Holly discussed A Solitude of Wolverines by Alice Henderson, a thriller that starts with a bang as protagonist Alex Carter almost dies at an event celebrating the completion of a recent conservation project to protect wetlands near Boston; someone has brought a gun to the event and opens fire. Saved at the last second, Alex decides to recover by taking a job studying wolverines in Montana. To Holly’s delight, the research takes place at a creepy, rundown old ski resort. Her key takeaways were:
- There is a heavy sprinkling of important (and real, Holly should know from her work at the Audubon society) wildlife conservation issues; Henderson explores not only wolverines interacting with their environment but the importance of native plants and programs collaborating with farmers and ranchers to help protect birds and other wildlife.
- Amidst the science, Alex is nearly driven off the road and spies footage in a wolverine trap camera of a badly injured man out in the snow; tension builds as time runs out to get to the bottom of what really is going on - all while still confronting lingering questions about what happened with the shooting in Boston.
- While this is a rock solid thriller, it wasn’t the most memorable Holly has read. Many of the male main characters felt interchangeable and became hard to follow at times. If you’re looking for a plot-heavy environmental thriller, A Solitude of Wolverines is worth a shot (winks awkwardly).
- Hot On the Shelf (38:39):
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (43:27):
- Devin: Good Omens Season 2 on Amazon Prime
- Holly: Only Murders in the Building Season 3 on Hulu
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12/31/24 • 41 min
Summary: Bundle up and stay inside with us for a very topical episode today; Holly and Devin sip hot coco and discuss books set in the Winter! Whether you love the cold and the snow like Devin or have moved as far away from the season as you reasonably can like Holly, books set in winter create the perfect vibe for our host’s respective wheelhouses. Nothing is cozier or more ominous than this season, where being stuck inside can be perfect for smooching or for bodies being found.
Topics Discussed:
- The Heart (4:30): Devin discussed A Winter in New York by Josie Silver, a romance following Iris, a British woman restarting her life in New York City from London after the death of her mother and the end of an abusive relationship. At a street fair in Little Italy, Iris recognizes the characteristic door to Belotti’s gelateria as a place her mother spent time with a mysterious young man. A secret gelato recipe, an uncle fallen ill, and a gorgeous and kind Belotti’s heir Giovanni and Iris is in over her head. How can she reconcile her family’s past while struggling so much to build her own future? Devin’s key takeaways were:
- This story begins in the fall but spends the majority if the time deep in the New York winter; there’s romanticization of the city but the coziness of Iris’ tiny apartment and the back kitchen of Belotti’s where she and Gio work on the recipe was enjoyable to read, if not totally accurate to what NYC is like in the winter.
- Similar to other works by Silver, this story has a lot of layers to it, some of which work better than others. The guilt that Iris feels about having Gio’s family recipe from her mother and the romantic implications from teenagers goes a bit far and creates a false sense of strain between Iris and Gio, who otherwise could have had a totally normal, non-dramatic romance.
- One of the main themes through this book is family - how we’re connected, what our families teach us, what a legacy means, and what happens when you step outside that comfort zone and get hurt by strangers. Iris has just escaped an abusive relationship and the connection to her mother drives her to take sometimes unnatural steps to stay involved with Belotti’s.
- The Dagger (17:12): Holly discussed Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead by Olga Tokarczuk, a literary mystery following Janina, who lives a solitary life in a rural Polish village. Quirky and eccentric, Janina is deeply connected to nature and obsessed with astrology and William Blake’s poetry. Awoken in the middle of the night by her neighbor (who she calls Oddball) banging on her door, she discovers that her other neighbor, Big Foot, has died painfully. Unable to reach the Czech police, they take care of his body and things escalate after another community member is found dead. Holly’s key takeaways were:
- The novel challenges traditional notions of morality, presenting animals as equal agents deserving of justice and respect. Janina's belief that animals can take revenge for human cruelty questions the ethics of hunting, poaching, and industrialized animal exploitation.
- Janina is portrayed as an eccentric outsider, dismissed by her community for her unconventional views and behavior. Janina's character challenges stereotypes about older women, portraying her as intelligent, independent, and driven. Her alienation underscores the marginalization of those who challenge societal norms and the way society dismisses women.
- This book is perfectly atmospheric for winter; to give a taste of how winter is depicted from the first pages: “We left the house and were instantly engulfed by the familiar cold, wet air that reminds us every winter that the world was not created for Mankind, and for at least half the year it shows us how very hostile it is to us. The frost brutally assailed our cheeks, and clouds of white steam came streaming from our mouths.”
- Hot On the Shelf (32.35):
- Holly: All the Water in the World by Eiren Caffall
- Devin: Truly Madly Deeply by Alexandria Bellefleur
- What’s Making Our Hearts Race (35:34):
- Devin: Our Little Secret with Lindsay Lohan on Netflix
- Holly: John Williams Documentary on Disney+
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