
Healthcare Rap
Shift Forward Health
Healthcare Rap is the leading podcast about consumer-centered care, a.k.a. how the frontiers of digital, retail, and traditional care can work together to make healthcare easier for everyday people. It ranks in the top 5% of all podcasts globally, has been named a Top 20 Healthcare Podcast, and is one of the longest-lasting shows in the industry, with more than 380 episodes and 6 years on the air.
Join provocative thinkers Jared Johnson and Zain Ismail as they profile disruptors and trends that are impacting the consumer experience of healthcare.
The podcast reached new heights in 2024:
- 380+ episodes
- 250k downloads
- 2024 Top Healthcare Podcasts (Bright Inventions)
- #2 on 30 Best Healthcare Innovation Podcasts (Feedspot)
- 16 Healthcare Podcasts You Shouldn’t Miss (b2Cast)
- Multiple episodes on Healthcare Now Radio's Top 10 Episodes of the Year
Topics for 2025:
- Connected fitness
- GLP-1's / weight loss
- Food as medicine / nutrition
- Sleep management
- Mental and behavioral health
- Preventive health and wellness
- Nontraditional care models - direct primary care, retail care, health at home, digital health, functional health, concierge medicine, etc.
- How those nontraditional care models can work together with traditional health systems
- Consumer-facing digital health
- All other consumer-facing aspects of healthcare
Topics that we don't cover:
- Clinical leadership
- Cybersecurity
- Health information management
- Interoperability
- Revenue cycle
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best Healthcare Rap episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to Healthcare Rap for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite Healthcare Rap episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

Data Will Change Everything in the Very Near Future
Healthcare Rap
05/31/22 • 31 min
Gary Druckenmiller from Innovaccer is in the house to share some provocative thinking about the modern role of tech in consumers’ health journeys. Gary shares what consumers need to better understand about the martech underlying their health encounters, and how quickly we could reach a truly connected experience.
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about simplicity. What can we learn from CVS Health’s announcement of their new Virtual Primary Care service?
Thanks to Persado for spreading the awesome, yo! Persado provides healthcare organizations with pre-developed, pre-optimized marketing messaging focused on improving health goals and business objectives. (#216)
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Innovation: Agree To Disagree?
Healthcare Rap
04/05/22 • 35 min
Alan Shoebridge doesn’t always agree with Jared about the who, when, and how of innovation ... or does he? It turns out that Alan, Chief Communication Officer for Providence Oregon, finds a lot of common ground with those who are calling for urgent transformation, such as:
-Retail brands can be good for consumers’ healthcare choices, but it won’t be easy for them to succeed.
-Innovation requires dedicated resources. You can’t just assign it to someone on top of everything else they’re already doing.
-The challenge is how to connect everything once you get past primary care – how to funnel into specialists, etc.
-Valuing innovation doesn’t devalue operations.
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about what the CEO of Whole Foods recently said about whole-person health. John Mackey delivered a scathing review of the US healthcare system at HIMSS, so what did he say we should do instead, and why is it important?
Thanks to Persado for spreading the awesome, yo! Persado provides healthcare organizations with pre-developed, pre-optimized marketing messaging focused on improving health goals and business objectives. (#208)
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Ryan Howells Wants to Kill the Clipboard! (#426)
Healthcare Rap
06/10/25 • 28 min
Ryan Howells, Program Manager of the CARIN Alliance and Partner at Leavitt Partners, shares how to kill the clipboard in healthcare once and for all. Ryan is reported to be a finalist to lead the ONC, and he recently co-authored a 17-page roadmap for federal policy and the industry to accelerate innovation and cut administrative waste. As an advocate for scaling open data standards at the federal level, his point of view on interoperability is important to understand as federal policy is being written as we speak.
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about LillyDirect adding Alzheimer's care to its platform. Who’s really in charge of the journey when pharma becomes a care coordinator, and what role can Pharma platforms play in the continual evolution of healthcare becoming direct to consumer?
Paper: Kill the Clipboard!: https://leavittpartners.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/NEW-Ideas-for-the-Trump-Department-of-HHS_FINAL.pdf
SPOTLIGHT: SHED
Shed is revolutionizing health and wellness by making wellness available to everyone. Through personalized nutrition, high-quality supplements, and science-backed wellness strategies, Shed empowers individuals to take control of their health and live longer, healthier lives.
Start your wellness journey today: www.tryshed.com/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=healthcare_rap
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This show is produced by the Healthcare Rap Community, the home for bringing together the voices of healthcare leaders and health consumers. Whether you're actively working to make healthcare more consumer-centered or just want to learn about cool new care models and innovations, this community is for you! (#426)
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05/13/25 • 33 min
Dr. Marschall Runge, CEO of Michigan Medicine and Dean of the Medical School at the University of Michigan, shares remarkable perspective on how technology advances, policy changes, and emerging business models are fundamentally transforming the industry — all from his brand new book, The Great Healthcare Disruption.
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Oura’s newly released Meals and Glucose product features. What new health tracking possibilities do these features unlock for consumers, and what’s next from the world of modern wearables?
SPOTLIGHT: SHED
Shed is revolutionizing health and wellness by making wellness available to everyone. Through personalized nutrition, high-quality supplements, and science-backed wellness strategies, Shed empowers individuals to take control of their health and live longer, healthier lives.
Start your wellness journey today: https://www.tryshed.com/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=healthcare_rap
JOIN THE COMMUNITY
This show is produced by the Healthcare Rap Community, the only place to bring together the voices of healthcare leaders and health consumers. Whether you're actively working to make healthcare more consumer-centered or just want to learn about cool new care models and innovations, this community is for you! (#418)
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Can Consumers, Medicine & Digital Health Coexist? (#252)
Healthcare Rap
02/07/23 • 33 min
Michael Hasselberg, Chief Digital Health Officer at University of Rochester Medical Center, gives insights into the ecosystem where digital health startups, consumers, and academic medicine intersect for the good of a population. Join him as he discusses using technology to increase access to care and how he gave up his clinical practice in pursuit of building new innovative care delivery models.
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about new prescription offerings from Amazon and Optum. How will RxPass and Price Edge provide a higher level of consumer-first health, and how can we shine a brighter spotlight on parts of the experiences that can be easy to overlook from a hospital-centric lens?
This show is produced by Shift Forward Health, the channel for change makers. Subscribe to Shift Forward Health on your favorite podcast app, and you’ll be subscribed to our entire library of shows. See our full lineup at ShiftForwardHealth.com. One subscription, all the podcasts you need, all for free. (#252)
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How Connected Fitness Fits In (#174)
Healthcare Rap
08/10/21 • 35 min
It can be hard to maintain a relationship with consumers in between episodes of care. So why not align with brands that have an ongoing relationship, such as their Peloton bike or your neighborhood gym? Jared and Zain share some provocative thinking about how hospitals, health systems, and providers can get in on the connected fitness game to benefit their patient relationships and ultimately be part of the solution for living more healthy lives. All that, plus the Flava of the week about designing a greater experience together than any of us can on our own.
Next steps:
- Subscribe to Season 2 of Now What?? on the Shift Forward Health YouTube channel
- Check out some of our favorite related podcasts:
- DGTL Voices with Ed Marx,
- Healthcare IT Today with John Lynn and Colin Hung
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31 – Does Your Employer Know Your Value?
Healthcare Rap
11/25/18 • 23 min
Do you take time to remind your company how valuable you are, or do you simply move on to the next task? Without regularly finding ways to make mention of the value you bring, marketing can become a commodity and stakeholders can take it for granted. It’s possible – and necessary, in fact – to do so without being obnoxious, whiny or overly dramatic.
Special thanks to True North Custom for partnering with us to spread the awesome, yo!
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06/12/25 • 10 min
In the 2nd of a 3-part bonus series, Jared shares his top 5 insights for B2B2C digital health companies to understand their role in making healthcare consumer-centered.
The role of digital health companies:
- Understand consumers more deeply than anyone else.
- Create a product or service so good that consumers demand it.
- Educate consumers so they see you as a solution.
- Educate health systems / employers / health plans so they understand your value.
- Use your brand “for good” (obligatory Wicked reference).
SPOTLIGHT: SHED
Shed is revolutionizing health and wellness by making wellness available to everyone. Through personalized nutrition, high-quality supplements, and science-backed wellness strategies, Shed empowers individuals to take control of their health and live longer, healthier lives.
Start your wellness journey today: www.tryshed.com/?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=healthcare_rap
JOIN THE COMMUNITY
This show is produced by the Healthcare Rap Community, the home for bringing together the voices of healthcare leaders and health consumers. Whether you're actively working to make healthcare more consumer-centered or just want to learn about cool new care models and innovations, this community is for you! (#427)
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HIMSS ’25: Joey Seliski & Franco Cardillo (#401)
Healthcare Rap
03/14/25 • 13 min
(BONUS EPISODE) Live from HIMSS: Joey Seliski, Director of Technology Strategy and Digital Health at Allegheny Health Network, and Franco Cardillo, Executive Director of Digital Transformation Strategy & Operations at MUSC, discuss the importance of health system collaboration and some recent wins that their organizations are celebrating with consumer engagement technologies.
This show is produced by the Consumer-First Health Group, the community for consumer health enthusiasts. (#401)
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Transformative Care and Physician Leadership
Healthcare Rap
09/20/22 • 36 min
We welcome Dr. Gordon Chen, Chief Medical Officer at ChenMed, to discuss the company's vision of transformative care and disruptive physician leadership. A key to transformative healthcare is equipping primary care providers to lead the charge, and that requires training them to lead clinically, lead emotionally, and lead the business. Learn how ChenMed strives to do this, as well as other insights from The Calling, the memoir that Dr. Chen recently co-authored with his brother Christopher.
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Walmart and UnitedHealth’s new Medicare Advantage partnership. Can they truly compete on cost and access, and what impact might this have on the Retail Wars?
This show is produced by Shift Forward Health, the channel for change makers. Subscribe to Shift Forward Health on your favorite podcast app, and you’ll be subscribed to our entire library of shows. See our full lineup at ShiftForwardHealth.com. One subscription, all the podcasts you need, all for free. (#232)
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FAQ
How many episodes does Healthcare Rap have?
Healthcare Rap currently has 448 episodes available.
What topics does Healthcare Rap cover?
The podcast is about Marketing, Management, Podcasts and Business.
What is the most popular episode on Healthcare Rap?
The episode title 'Data Will Change Everything in the Very Near Future' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Healthcare Rap?
The average episode length on Healthcare Rap is 30 minutes.
How often are episodes of Healthcare Rap released?
Episodes of Healthcare Rap are typically released every 6 days, 23 hours.
When was the first episode of Healthcare Rap?
The first episode of Healthcare Rap was released on Apr 2, 2018.
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