DesignOps Podcast

This is the second half of an interview with Design Director and Diversity, Equity and Inclusion champion Lily Dart. It was a long episode that we've split in two as we cover two important topics that warrant their own show.
In this one we talk about Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DE&I) and we discuss her involvement with a fantastic initiative, Innovate Her UK.
Useful links:
LilyDart.com
Lily on Twitter
InnovateHerUK on Twitter
InnoveHerUK.co.uk

This is the first half of an interview with Design Director and Diversity, Equity and Inclusion champion Lily Dart. It was a long episode that we've split in two as we cover two important topics that warrant their own show.
In this one we talk about some of the problems we face in our design organisations, in particular the hiring process.
Useful links:
LilyDart.com
Lily on Twitter

In this blockbuster of an episode, Sean talks to design leader, startup advisor and venture capitalist Andy Budd. They discuss how design fits in the wider organisation, design getting a seat at the table, the truth of agile and why design tasks in the interview process are a bad idea.
Useful links:
The secret lie of agile tweet (check the whole thread!)
Designers think it's their job to come up with the best idea tweet
The ChatGPT tweet where Andy asks how to judge quality of design candidates
Andy Budd on Twitter
AndyBudd.com
ClearLeft agency
Leading Design conference

In this episode, Sean talks to Luke Murphy, the Head of Community and Content at zeroheight — the DesignOps and design systems documentation platform. They talk about design operations, the problems within it, design maturity in product and issues with the way design is typically structured in the larger organisation.
Useful links:
LukeMurphy.com
Luke on Twitter
Zeroheight
DesignOps Island Discs podcast

In the second episode of DesignOps Podcast, Sean talks to design teacher and design systems expert Dan Mall about what a design system is, when do we need one and how design fits into agile ways of working.
Shownotes:
Dan's Design System in 90s Days Workbook
Dan's book on Pricing Design
DanMall.com
Dan Mall on YouTube
Dan Mall on Twitter
Dan Mall on Instagram