
Cutting Against The Grain
Laura Spath and Judy Cho
Cutting Against the Grain is a podcast from Judy Cho (Nutrition with Judy) and Laura Spath. Both Judy and Laura understand the struggle when it comes to balancing ideal eating and real-life. In this podcast, these two friends share real talk about the world around them, especially topics around meat-based nutrition, diet, wellness, mental health, and community. Weekly, they explore hot topics in the nutrition and wellness space while sharing their own, real experiences so that you feel empowered to make the right decisions for you. If you're craving some real talk without any online filters, this podcast is for you.
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62. Overcoming Struggles
Cutting Against The Grain
06/01/22 • 39 min
In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about how to overcome struggles, especially with diet.
- Acute vs. chronic stress
- Food for comfort
- The physical and emotional side with food
- Other addictions
- How Laura breaks food cravings
- How to get back on track
- #Carnivore75Hard
- See the long-term view
- Crash diets
- Some things to consider
- A moment of honest, courageous reflection
- Win the day
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RESOURCES:
- CATG Ep 48: Why We're All Experts at Failing Diets with Dr. Robert Cywes - Not the What but the Why
- #Carnivore75Hard Free Program
- #Carnivore75Hard Facebook Group
- #Carnivore75Hard Laura’s Locals Challenge
- Andy Frisella’s 75Hard
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SPONSORS:
- KetoCon: Use “CATG10” at checkout to get 10% off your 3-day pass
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LAURA'S RESOURCES:
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JUDY'S RESOURCES:
- Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
- Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
- Nutrition with Judy Articles
- Nutrition with Judy Resources
- Judy's Instagram
- Nutrition with Judy Podcast
- Judy's YouTube
- Judy's Facebook
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.
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49. Ownership and Diet as a Journey
Cutting Against The Grain
03/02/22 • 51 min
In this episode, Laura and Judy share their thoughts on the conversation with Dr. Cywes.
- Recap of interview with Dr. Cywes
- Everyone fails at diets
- Blame the person or blame yourself?
- Bias of echo chambers: Like finds like
- Who is responsible: the sellers or the purchasers?
- 2 camps of carnivore: the biohackers and the sick
- Seeing healing as a journey
- Not the What but the Why in eating
- Breaking a habit that makes for you
- Why Judy doesn’t share her meals
- Why melatonin might not be ideal
Resources
- CATG Ep 48 with Dr. Cywes
- NwJ's Episode with Dr. Robert Cywes
- CATG Ep 19: Sleep
- Dr. Robert Cywes Office
- Dr. Robert Cywest YouTube
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SPONSORS:
- Carnivore Cure
- KetoCon: Use CATG10 for 10% off your tickets
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LAURA'S RESOURCES:
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JUDY'S RESOURCES:
- Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
- Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
- Nutrition with Judy Articles
- Nutrition with Judy Resources
- Judy's Instagram
- Nutrition with Judy Podcast
- Judy's YouTube
- Judy's Facebook
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

92. What to Drink on Carnivore
Cutting Against The Grain
12/28/22 • 64 min
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In this episode, Laura and Judy talk about Celebrations and Drinks
- Judy is Board Certified in Holistic Nutrition
- What to Drink on Carnivore
- Water vs Tap Water
- Filtered Water
- Reverse Osmosis, Distilled Water and Well Water
- Mineral and Electrolyte Balance
- Sparkling Water
- Coffee and Caffeine
- Cortisol and Coffee
- Bridge Foods
- Decaf Teas and Decaf Coffee
- Best Tea Options
RESOURCES:
- Alexa Pure Water Filtration System: https://bit.ly/3CUmHNB
- Mineral Level Testing: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/health-tests/hair-tissue-mineral-analysis-htma-comprehensive-hair-test-written-report/
- Redmond Real Salt: https://redmond.life/?afmc=NwJ USE “NWJ” at Checkout for 15% OFF
- Sole Water: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/balancing-electrolytes-blood-pressure-and-sole-water-recipe/
- Sparkling Waters Blog Post: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/whats-in-your-sparkling-water/
- Caffeine Blog Post: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/caffeine-anyone/
- The Importance of Water Blog Post: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/the-importance-of-water/
- Never Drink Tap Water Blog Post: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/truths-of-tap-and-mineral-water/
- Decaf Swiss Water Coffee: https://amzn.to/3g5gRzi
- CATG Sleep Episode: https://cutting-against-the-grain.simplecast.com/episodes/why-you-may-not-be-sleeping-on-a-low-carb-diet
- The Devil We Know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJFbsWX4MJM
- Safer Ingredients: https://www.madesafe.org/
- U.S. PFAS/PFOS Contamination: https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/pfas_contamination/#.W4aOKK3MzR0
- Tap Water by Zip Code: https://mytapwater.org/
- EPA Water by State: https://ofmpub.epa.gov/apex/safewater/f?p=136:102
- EWG’S Tap Water (2019): https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/
- Brita Showerhead: https://www.berkeyfilters.com/products/berkey-shower
JUDY'S RESOURCES:
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LAURA'S RESOURCES:
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do no...

57. Weight Loss for Good
Cutting Against The Grain
04/27/22 • 50 min
In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about how to lose weight on a carnivore diet, and in a way that is sustainable.
- Weight loss trends
- Gaining weight on carnivore
- Weight loss for different body types
- Undereating on keto
- Consistency is critical
- Randle cycle
- Calories in calories out
- The heftiness of snacking
- Meal timing
- Multiple meals for gut health
- Reverse dieting
- Alcohol
- Less variety
- Macros and Levers
Resources
- Critical Carnivore’s Calorie Calculator
- NwJ YouTube: Randle Cycle with Bart Kay
- NwJ Ep 146. Strength Training Tips for Men and Women - Menno Henselmans
- CATG Ep 48: Why We’re Experts at Failing Diets with Dr. Cywes
- CATG Ep 50: Fasting
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SPONSORS:
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LAURA'S RESOURCES:
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JUDY'S RESOURCES:
- Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
- Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
- Nutrition with Judy Articles
- Nutrition with Judy Resources
- Judy's Instagram
- Nutrition with Judy Podcast
- Judy's YouTube
- Judy's Facebook
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

3. About Judy Cho
Cutting Against The Grain
04/28/21 • 32 min
In this episode, Laura interviews Judy and takes a closer look into how Judy’s childhood and how she evolved into Nutrition with Judy.
- Where did Judy grow up
- Judy’s childhood
- Judy’s eating disorder
- Carnivore75Hard
- What brought her to Nutrition with Judy
- Judy’s hope for the community
More interviews with Judy: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/interview-and-podcast-features/
SPONSORS:
Carnivore Cure Book: https://amzn.to/3uZ9tuu
Redmond’s Real Salt Discount: https://shop.redmond.life/?afmc=NwJ Enter “NWJ” at checkout to receive 15% off your order.
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ABOUT LAURA SPATH
LAURA’S RESOURCES:
- Laura’s Discount Codes & Interviews: https://linktr.ee/lauraespath
- Laura’s Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-e2b85275
FIND LAURA:
- YouTube: https://bit.ly/3wMPkcS
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraespath/
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ABOUT JUDY CHO
- Judy’s Book, Carnivore Cure: https://amzn.to/37R4lOY
- Free #Carnivore75Hard Program: https://judy-s-school-4268.thinkific.com/
JUDY’S RESOURCES:
- Nutrition with Judy Blog: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/blog/
- Nutrition with Judy Resources: https://nutritionwithjudy.com/resources
FIND JUDY:
- Website: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/nutritionwithjudy
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nutritionwithjudy
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NutritionwJudy/
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

82. Blindly Following vs. Critical Thinking
Cutting Against The Grain
10/19/22 • 48 min
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In this episode, we discuss the importance of critical thinking and the power of why.
- 12 Rules of Life Excerpt
- Critical Thinking
- Groupthink
- The Importance of Why
- Covid Vaccine
- Entertainment vs. Research
- The Like Button
- Content Creator vs Consumer
- Orange Juice and Carrots
- Hitler
- Ivermectin
- How to Find What Works for You
- Driver’s Seat
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RESOURCES
- Groupthink
- NwJ Ep 192 – Matt Beaudreau
- Jordan Peterson’s 12 Rules of Life
- Liver Article
- YouTube: Why Liver + Beef Don’t Work Long Term
- Efficacy of Covid-19 Vaccine
- Should Children Get the Covid-19 Vaccine
- Ray Peat Article
- Carrot and Okra as a Binder
- CATG Ep. 73 – Biohacking + MSH Hormone
- Hitler Source
- Uric Acid Decision Tree
- CDC Website Link (works on computers, not phones)
- American Frontline Doctors Covid Supports
- NIH Now Includes Ivermectin for Covid-19

41. What to Eat on Carnivore
Cutting Against The Grain
01/05/22 • 38 min
In this episode, Laura and Judy talk about what and how to eat on carnivore
- How Laura and Judy shop and what they buy
- Sourcing: Grass finished vs grain finished
- Cooking methods
- What we eat and leftovers
- Eating out
- What to do with cheese
- When to track and when not to
- Gaining weight on carnivore
- Should you start meat-only or meat-based carnivore?
- Sugar as a stimulant
- Organs – Do we need them on a carnivore diet?
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RESOURCES
CATG Ep 38: Beginner’s guide to carnivore
CATG Ep 10: Why Meat Prices are Going Up (Grain vs Grassfed)
CATG Ep 26: All in or Ease in to Carnivore
CATG Ep 6: Vitamin A and Liver Consumption
NwJ Don’ Eat Just Beef Article
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SPONSORS:
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LAURA’S RESOURCES:
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JUDY'S RESOURCES:
- Judy’s Book, Carnivore Cure
- Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
- Nutrition with Judy Articles
- Nutrition with Judy Resources
- Judy's Instagram
- Nutrition with Judy Podcast
- Judy's YouTube
- Judy's Facebook
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

111. Deep Dive into Carnivore Blood Sugar and Insulin
Cutting Against The Grain
07/19/23 • 61 min
Today's episode is sponsored by Paleovalley
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Thank you for supporting this podcast.
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about blood sugar, glucose, A1c, and insulin levels on Carnivore
EPISODE NOTES
- Blood sugar and insulin
- A1c and Insulin
- What We’re Really Measuring
- What to Measure for Health
- Adding Carbs to Higher A1c
- Fructose, GGT, ALT, AST
- Children’s Bloodwork and NAFLD
- Red Pilled and Logical Thinking
- Carbs for Enjoyment vs Carbs for Fear
- Signs of Balanced Sugar
- Carb Threshold and Dairy
- The Body’s Biofeedback
RESOURCES:
SPONSORS:
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JUDY'S RESOURCES:
- Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
- Nutrition with Judy Articles
- Nutrition with Judy Resources
- Judy's Instagram
- Nutrition with Judy Podcast
- Judy's YouTube
- Judy's Facebook
LAURA'S RESOURCES:
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice and is for educational purposes only. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

66. CIRS Deep Dive (If Carnivore Isn’t Fully Working)
Cutting Against The Grain
06/29/22 • 41 min
In this episode, Laura and Judy do a deeper dive into Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). If you struggle with chronic illness or a chronic autoimmune illness, make sure to check out this podcast episode.
- Carnivore, chronic illness, and autoimmune
- Review of Melanocyte Stimulate Hormone (MSH)
- What symptoms NwJ looks for with Carnivore + CIRS
- Candida and Carnivore
- CIRS 1: Check symptoms
- CIRS 2: Check vision test
- CIRS 3: CIRS Bloodwork
- How Judy knows if you’re not fully healing with Carnivore
- Why Cholestyramine and Welchol are best for mold biotoxins
- CIRS 4A: Lipid acid replacement (cell danger response)
- Histamines and MCAS
- How mold grows
- CIRS 4B: ERMI or HERTSMI Test (environmental testing)
- CIRS 4C: Limbic System Retraining support (mind-body support)
- CIRS 4D: MARCoNS Testing
- CIRS 4E: Finding a CIRS provider and heal
- Why mind-body matters (the placebo effect)
- Why your life depends on root-cause healing (it’s not just a slogan)
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RESOURCES:
- CATG Ep 55. Mold, Autoimmune, Hormones and Meat-only Carnivore
- NwJ CIRS Bloodwork
- NwJ Free CIRS Handouts
- OMAPREM (Lipid Acid Replacement)
- MegaOmega Omega 3s
- NwJ – What is CIRS YouTube
- NwJ – Interview with Dr. Eric Dorninger (CIRS Practitioner)
- Dr. Shoemaker’s VIP and Grey Matter Atrophy Restoration
- CellCore Products
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SPONSORS:
- Carnivore Bar: Use “NWJ” at checkout to get 10% off your order.
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JUDY'S RESOURCES:
- Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
- Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
- Nutrition with Judy Articles
- Nutrition with Judy Resources
- Judy's Instagram
- Nutrition with Judy Podcast
- Judy's YouTube
- Judy's Facebook
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LAURA'S RESOURCES:
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condit...

110. The Truth about Overpopulation. Natal Conference with Kevin Dolan
Cutting Against The Grain
07/05/23 • 60 min
Today's episode is sponsored by Paleovalley
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Thank you for supporting this podcast.
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode, Laura and Judy chat with Kevin Dolan from the Natal Conference about the truth of overpopulation.
EPISODE NOTES
- Introduction to Kevin Dolan
- Decline in Population
- Reasons for the Decline
- The Tradition of Gender Roles
- Traditions of Families
- You Can’t Make Any More Two-Year-Olds
- Where to Find Partners
- Attack on Marriage
- Natal Conference in December 2023
RESOURCES:
SPONSORS:
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JUDY'S RESOURCES:
- Carnivore Summit June 2023, https://www.carnivoresummit.co/
- Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
- Nutrition with Judy Articles
- Nutrition with Judy Resources
- Judy's Instagram
- Nutrition with Judy Podcast
- Judy's YouTube
- Judy's Facebook
LAURA'S RESOURCES:
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DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice and is for educational purposes only. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.
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How many episodes does Cutting Against The Grain have?
Cutting Against The Grain currently has 113 episodes available.
What topics does Cutting Against The Grain cover?
The podcast is about Health & Fitness, Nutrition and Podcasts.
What is the most popular episode on Cutting Against The Grain?
The episode title '62. Overcoming Struggles' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Cutting Against The Grain?
The average episode length on Cutting Against The Grain is 53 minutes.
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Episodes of Cutting Against The Grain are typically released every 7 days.
When was the first episode of Cutting Against The Grain?
The first episode of Cutting Against The Grain was released on Apr 10, 2021.
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