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Fermenting Better Meat with Paul Shapiro
Before It Happened
04/07/22 • 35 min
The meat industry is known for following dirty and often inhumane processes. But the fact that meat consumption is such an ancient practice doesn’t mean that it can’t be reinvented. In this episode of Before IT Happened, Donna meets Paul Shapiro, author of the bestseller Clean Meat: How Growing Meat Without Animals Will Revolutionize Dinner And The World. As the book’s title suggests, Paul is hopeful of rendering the factory farming system totally obsolete. They discuss his decision to become vegan at age 13, the mysteries and virtues of the fungi kingdom and the possibilities of alternative meat experiences in the future.
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
JUMP STRAIGHT INTO:
(01:17) - Discovering veganism as a young teenager - “I thought ‘Wow, not only can you abstain from eating animal products, but you can actually thrive as the world's number one athlete and be vegan’.”
(06:30) - The Compassion Over Killing Club - “I decided to shift it from being a high school club at my Washington DC high school to being really like a DC-wide organization. And so I expanded it out and more and more adults started getting involved.”
(09:25) - How animal rights have evolved - “Nobody stopped because they cared about geese. They stopped because metal fountain pens were invented.”
(14:30) - Understanding the benefits of fungi and the many ways to produce meat without killing animals - “Most of the time, when people think about fungi, they are thinking about mushrooms and they're not synonyms. Mushrooms are the fruiting body of the fungi.”
(17:28) - A new food pyramid: Why fungi, like animals, needs to be domesticated for human consumption - “This is an effort to optimize both the actual organism and the environment in which it's grown to make sure that we can produce the most efficient and most sustainable type of meat experience on the planet.”
(22:41) - The mission to render the factory farming system obsolete - “We want to create a world in which a factory farm is viewed as much as an archaic relic of an obsolete past as a whaling ship is.”
(27:04) - Conversations inside the meat industry, home based solutions and the future of meat consumption - “If we know that eating animals is a driving factor for pandemic risk, if we know it's the number one cause of deforestation, antibiotic resistance and cruelty and more, why not try to recreate meat without animals?”
EPISODE RESOURCES:
Connect with Paul on Twitter and at his website
Learn more about The Better Meat Co. and follow them on Instagram
Watch Paul’s Ted Talk: Clean meat: The clean energy of food
Read Paul’s book: Clean Meat
Thank you for listening! Follow Before IT Happened on Instagram and Twitter, and don’t forget to subscribe, rate and share the show wherever you listen to podcasts!
Before IT Happened is produced by Donna Loughlin and StudioPod Media with additional editing and sound design by nodalab. The Executive Producer is Katie Sunku Wood and all episodes are written by Jack Buehrer.

From Farm to Table to Feeding the World with Uncrushable Celebrity Chef and Entrepreneur Tyler Florence
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09/23/21 • 38 min
How does a latchkey kid go from eating microwave burritos to being a world-renowned chef? In this episode of Before IT Happened, Donna tells the story of one of the early faces of The Food Network, Tyler Florence. Tyler is an American culinary star, author of almost a dozen cookbooks, an entrepreneur, and even a documentary director. Tyler’s love for food has taken him from working on the front lines of busy restaurants to collaborating with the World Central Kitchen and the United Nations to combat world hunger. Listen now and learn how this passionate risk-taker is constantly pushing his career to new and exciting levels!
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
Jump straight into:
(02:10) - Tyler’s latchkey kid childhood and how his love for food began - “I was never a kid who wanted to order off the kids' menu. I wanted the most adventurous, most expensive thing on the menu.”
(08:43) - Getting his first job as a dishwasher and getting inspired by food - “Nothing was as interesting to me as working in the kitchen and working in restaurants. So I graduated from high school and went to culinary school in Charleston, South Carolina.”
(14:25) - Moving to New York City to start his career as a chef - “I didn't have a job. I moved there with just an opportunity to show up and work for free to prove that you can even be there.”
(18:20) - Getting discovered by The Food Network and his career as a TV host - “I was the first chef on Food Network to not wear a chef's coat, just because I felt like it was some sort of invisible Superman cape, so I just took on the position of the everyday guy next door.”
(23:41) - His entrepreneurial spirit - “When you're famous, the phone rings, so there's a blend between fielding opportunities and creating opportunities.”
(26:16) - The future of the restaurant industry post-pandemic - “I think it's really important that we start to really harvest and dial in the next generation of up and coming talent.”
(30:31) - Working with the World Central Kitchen and the UN World Food Program - “40% of all food at a grocery store ends up in the dumpster and then 30% of food that comes home, ends up in the garbage.”
Episode resources
Connect with Tyler on Twitter, Instagram and WolfItDown.com
Be the first to eat at Miller & Lux, Tyler’s newest restaurant in San Francisco
Reserve a table at Tyler’s first San Francisco restaurant Wayfare Tavern
Take a live, online cooking class with Tyler on WID Live
Donate or volunteer at the World Central Kitchen
Learn more about the United Nations World Food Program
See Tyler’s shows and recipes on the Food Network
Watch the trailer for Tyler’s documentary UnCrushable on California’s 2017 wildfires
Subscribe to Tyler’s Youtube channel Wolf it Down with Tyler Florence
Learn more about Tyler’s production company Monarch Collective
Learn more about Tyler’s alma mater Johnson & Wales University
Order you own organic baby food at Sprout

From Zero to 60 in a Car Fit for James Bond with Ferris Rezvani
Before It Happened
09/09/21 • 37 min
Would you like to drive a vehicle that takes you beyond the mortal real world? In this episode of Before IT Happened, Donna Loughlin chats with automobile entrepreneur and innovator Ferris Rezvani. After a successful career working at IBM, Ferris decided to pursue his lifelong dream of designing military-inspired armored vehicles. Today he is CEO of Rezvani Motors, an avant-garde automobile design company dedicated to creating exotic, high-performance vehicles that have become favorites of the rich and famous. Listen now and learn how Ferris quit his job to design just the kind of cars that James Bond and the Knight Rider would buy in a heartbeat.
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
JUMP STRAIGHT INTO:
(01:54) - Ferris Rezvani’s childhood story and his true calling, cars - “My inspiration was military-type equipment, aircraft, armored vehicles, ships. I was fascinated by all that stuff.”
(07:14) - Computer science, IBM and getting into car design - “I worked for IBM Global services for about seven years, then I started learning how car-design was done.”
(10:51) - Rezvani’s very first designs, production team, and investors - “I involved everyone with a piece of the effort and I was excited about it. I believed in it. I loved it, and that translated.”
(15:31) - Creating fantasies for exotic clients: The user experience of Rezvani Motors - “It allows them to go beyond themselves, beyond the mortal real world.”
(19:42) - Selling the first design and the current business - “We didn't advertise at all. We just let the design advertise itself. In 2014, it made it to the homepage of Yahoo.com and that was like the homepage back then.”
(23:30) - Expanding Rezvani’s range: From sports cars to the SUV market - “It's practical, you can pick up the kids from school with it. It's comfortable. But it's also bad-ass.”
(27:59) - Dealing with COVID-19, The New Beast, and the future of Rezvani - “We love what we do. Is there really a need to try to grow big? What do you really get by growing big?”
(33:17) - Ferris’s inspiration and experience in the industry - “I've realized that when you have your last name in the company, you will never let it fail because it is part of you and you will make sure that it's successful.”
EPISODE RESOURCES:
Connect with Ferris through LinkedIn
Follow Rezvani Motors on Twitter and Instagram
Learn more at Rezvani Motors
Watch The 2016 Rezvani Beast featured on Jay Leno’s Garage
Watch Building a Luxury Car Brand with Ferris Rezvani on Maz Jobrani’s ‘Back to School’
Read the Yahoo article that kicked off Rezvani’s rise
Read Top Luxury Cars Your Favorite Stars Love to Drive on Herald Weekly
Before IT Happened is produced by Donna Loughlin and StudioPod Media with additional editing and sound design by Nodalab. The Executive Producer is Katie Sunku Wood and all episodes are written by Jack Buehrer.
Thank you for listening! Follow Before IT Happened on Instagram and Twitter, and don’t forget to subscribe, rate and share the show wherever you listen to podcasts!

In the Pursuit of Cleaner Farming, Making Great Wine and Chasing Monarch Butterflies with Carlo Mondavi
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09/02/21 • 47 min
In this episode of Before IT Happened, Donna chats with Carlo Mondavi, a descendant of Napa Valley wine royalty and a leading advocate for sustainable agriculture and organic and biodynamic farming. Carlo’s grandfather Robert Mondavi founded the family winery in 1966 in Northern California and passed on his passion for wine and organic farming. Today Carlo is dedicated to The Monarch Challenge, a program to educate, encourage and connect communities to farming without chemicals. In 2013, Carlo also opened Raen Winery with his brother Dante, where they specialize in their grandfather’s favorite grape, pinot noir. Listen now and be inspired by Carlo’s passion for great wine, fruitful farming, and a healthier earth.
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
JUMP STRAIGHT INTO:
(01:23) - Robert Mondavi’s story and the wine legacy of his family: “Even though my family has been making wine for a hundred years, the challenges that we have faced, like prohibition, kept us very humble.”
(07:04) - A brief detour: Leaving the California vineyards for snowy mountains: “I went to a school in Colorado where during the wintertime there was a snowboard team. That was where I started with the snowboard.”
(10:37) - Anne-Claude Leflaive, biodynamics and a life-changing trip to Burgundy: “I remember her talking about farming, about this connection to the land, and about biodynamics and biodynamics at the time was a crazy idea.”
(17:13) - The problem with the chemical industry and getting involved with Monarch: “I got involved in this so that we could bridge those divides and we could solve these major pain points for farmers, farms, and agricultural communities.”
(26:45) - The Monarch Challenge and introducing the Monarch Tractor: “There was a massive pain on so many levels that we needed to solve. We needed to automize, electrify and clean up our carbon footprint with farming.”
(35:52) - A farmer-first company: Creating technology for all farmers’ benefit: “We want to be a solution to making farmers safer, healthier, happier, and more profitable at the end of the day, so that we can continue to do what we love.”
(43:06) - Leading this movement through technology: “I see a really bright future in agriculture, and it's not just in getting rid of the chemicals, it’s in making farms more successful and more profitable.”
EPISODE RESOURCES:
Connect with Carlo through LinkedIn and Twitter
Read Why Organic Winegrowing Can Be More Profitable Than Conventional featuring Carlo
See the Monarch Tractor in action and learn more about Monarch Tractor
Follow Monarch Tractor on Twitter and Instagram
Learn more about Raen Winery
Before IT Happened is produced by Donna Loughlin and StudioPod Media with additional editing and sound design by Nodalab. The Executive Producer is Katie Sunku Wood, and all episodes are written by Jack Buehrer.
Thank you for listening! Follow Before IT Happened on Instagram and Twitter, and don’t forget to subscribe, rate and share the show wherever you listen to podcasts!

Revamping a Tired Old Industry with Zohr’s Komal and Anoop Choong
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08/12/21 • 41 min
Komal and Anoop Choong are two first-generation American brothers whose family came from Northern India to the United States to open a restaurant chain. Growing up they were always fascinated by the entrepreneurial spirit of their father and when the time came, they decided to combine this work philosophy with their obsession for cars.
In this episode of Before It Happened, our host Donna Loughlin tells us the story of Zohr, a mobile tire service that grew from a minivan into a rising startup with presence in three American cities. Tires are the most important safety component of any moving vehicle, that’s why the Choong brothers’ business specializes in them. Listen now and learn how these brothers made a successful business out of a side hustle in their garage: Zhor, The Tire Shop That Comes To You!
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
JUMP STRAIGHT INTO:
(03:26) - The Choong family’s entrepreneurial mentality - “We really value honesty, straightforwardness and working hard. I think that goes a long way for our parents and anybody who originates from Northern India because it is very much an agrarian society.”
(06:07) - Hot Wheels and magazines: Their childhood love for cars - “From a very small age, the idea of creating things was just always there, that’s sort of the reason why I went to engineering school.”
(08:09) - From college to building an automotive company - “The minute I got exposure to what corporate America was really like, that was the moment that I decided I needed to start exploring other ways and opportunities of creating and building a company from scratch.”
(12:44) - Anoop’s journey to figuring out his future - “I felt that there's more experience to be had running a startup and working on it than there is going to school.”
(14:57) - Komal’s eye-opening car crash and the idea for Zohr - “That was another factor that contributed to us focusing on tires; because it's the most important safety component of any moving vehicle.”
(23:17) - The beginning of Zohr - “We had to teach ourselves the ABCs of changing tires, and then to get this business off the ground, we needed to go and change tires and start generating revenue.”
(25:35) - How Zohr has been making people’s lives better - “From a safety component you're borderline saving someone's life. That's really powerful.”
(28:36) - COVID-19, social distancing and offering a contactless service - “We serviced multiple nurses and doctors during the pandemic. It was so rewarding to be at these hospitals servicing these customers that just fundamentally didn't have time.”
(33:04) - Growing Zohr into new markets - “We strongly believe that we'll be the number one mobile provider for tire services across the country.”
(36:59) - What do you wish you knew before? - “Nothing could have prepared us because you literally have to go out and do it and fail at it countless times to be able to understand the dynamics in the business.”
EPISODE RESOURCES:
Connect with Anoop through LinkedIn
Connect with Komal through LinkedIn and Twitter
Learn more about Zohr | Mobile Tire Shop
Read 6 Reasons I Bet on a Startup Reimagining Auto Services
Watch Komal’s interview with Proactive: Zohr looking to scale its 'tire shop of the future' business
Read ZOHR relocates HQ to Dallas; KC lauded as its test site, but too limiting to grow brand nationally
Read: Entrepreneur: Startup Zohr scratches an unexpected niche

Disrupting the Silicon Valley Boys Club with Mercedes Soria
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08/05/21 • 52 min
If being a woman in tech is hard today, imagine how tough it must have been for a female Ecuadorian immigrant in the 1990s. In this episode of Before IT Happened, our host Donna Loughlin talks to Mercedes Soria, co-founder of the AI-driven security company Knightscope and one of Silicon Valley’s leading advocates for women in tech. Mercedes came to the U.S. to study engineering and has overcome one obstacle after another to become one of the tech industry’s most inspirational thought leaders on diversity. Today, Mercedes is a Grace Hopper Celebration award winner, a TechWomen mentor, and a Women in STEM advocate. Her dream is to mentor girls who will later come to the U.S. to be engineers. That way, she says, her efforts will come full circle. Tune in and listen to Mercedes’ inspiring story as a trailblazer for women in tech.
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
Jump straight into:
(02:15) - Mercedes’ childhood in Ecuador and her mother’s support to strive for more - “Ecuador is not close at all to the level of development that the U.S. is in terms of computers and engineering, which was where we studied.”
(07:58) - The tough years: Going to college in the U.S. - “All we knew is that we had to study every single day that we were in school. That happened until we got our engineering degree.”
(18:13) - Working at Gibson then jumping to Deloitte - “I applied to a hundred companies, and I only got three calls, and from those three interviews only Gibson would sponsor me to stay in the U.S. and work for them.”
(24:24) - How Mercedes got involved in equity and mentorship - “I was going to show this guy that I deserved to be in the job that I was given. I didn't want other women to have to go through that. Not only the fact that I was Hispanic but the fact that I was a woman in technology.”
(30:27) - Knightscope in Silicon Valley and winning the Grace Hopper Award - “If you're a woman, especially in technology in Silicon Valley, you have to prove your worth. As soon as you come in, it is assumed that you don't know anything.”
(38:04) - Tech Women, 50/50 Women on Boards and becoming a speaker - “Somehow someone from Tech Women told the State Department that I could be a really good speaker for the United States. And they called me.”
(45:39) - Solve24: Youth accelerator for STEM - “We're changing lives for girls that might not have known what technology is, or that might not have had the self-confidence to decide that they want to be in technology.”
Episode resources
Follow Mercedes on Twitter, LinkedIn & Forbes
Read Mercede’s Forbes article Three Effective Strategies To End The Shortage Of Women In Tech
Learn more about 50/50 Women on Boards and register to attend The San Francisco Conversation on Board Diversity
Join Chief, the exclusive network of executive women
Get involved with the U.S. Department of State’s program TechWomen
Get involved with Solve24
Find even more resources for Women in STEM
Learn more about Knightscope's autonomous technology
Before IT Happened is produced by Donna Loughlin and Studio Pod Media with additional editing and sound design by Nodal...

Human Intelligence Hiring with Mike Fitzsimmons
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07/29/21 • 40 min
In a world where 45% of hires fail within the first 18 months, matching talent to the perfect workplace is almost magic. In this episode of Before It Happened, our host Donna Loughlin tells the story of Mike Fitzsimmons, co-founder and CEO of Crosschq, a cloud-based service that combines human intelligence and AI to reinvent how companies hire. Crosschq’s mission is to better match companies and talent through what it calls human intelligence. The idea is that a good hire helps both the employer and the employee, plus it leaves a positive impact on the community.
Listen now and learn how Mike is revolutionizing the art of hiring by putting the human factor back into human resources!
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
Jump straight into:
(01:40) - Mike’s youth, college inspiration, and his very first job at Circuit City — “I signed up immediately and a few weeks after college, I was on my way to open up a call center.”
(07:25) - Why hiring is so hard and the birth of Crosschq — “Hiring and retaining talent is hard, you learn that pretty early if you're aware and paying attention.”
(13:50) - Poor hiring is a worldwide issue — “You should stop reporting on quantity and then filling seats quickly. We have to start thinking about quality.”
(18:03) - Human Intelligence Hiring — How Crosschq helps companies find the best talent -
“We get content and data from people, for people and convert that into actionable data and insights that companies can use.”
(22:11) - Bias vs. Equity: How to neutralize profiling — “Age, ethnicity, sex. All of those biases still exist. We're going to help bring data to the table to help convince companies and lead them to try to reduce as much of that bias as they can.”
(25:15) - COVID-19 and the impact Crosschq has had on the community — “We provide our service for free to companies like 70 million jobs, which is the leading platform for Anti-Recidivism in the US. We're trying to help people that are trying to help themselves.”
(31:10) - What Mike has learned from the pandemic — “I've been just so impressed by how absolutely tough all of us are and how everybody's persevered.”
(33:27) - Changing the culture within companies — “We have to be hyper-aware at keeping folks engaged and engaging in a real and meaningful fashion.”
Episode resources
Connect with Mike on Twitter and LinkedIn
Learn more about Mike’s company Crosschq
Read Michael Fitzsimmons of Crosschq: 5 Things I Wish Someone Told Me Before I Began Leading My Company
Read Mike’s interview with Natfluence
See Mike’s profile on the Forbes Next 1000 list
Before IT Happened is produced by Donna Loughlin and Studio Pod Media with additional editing and sound design by Nodalab. The show coordinator is Deanna Morenci with audio engineering provided by Dave Clarke-McCoy. The Executive Producer is Katie Sunku Wood. All episodes are written by Jack Buehrer.
Thank you for listening! Follow Before IT Happened on Instagram and Twitter, and don’t forget to subscribe, rate and share the show wherever you listen to podcasts!

Electrifying Agriculture One Tractor at a Time with Praveen Penmetsa
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07/15/21 • 30 min
Sometimes to give meaning to our work, we need to remember who we are and where we came from. In this episode of Before It Happened, Donna speaks with Praveen Penmetsa, co-founder and CEO of two groundbreaking startups — one of which is revolutionizing the agricultural industry.
While Praveen’s love for cars and engineering brought him to the United States, it was his family’s farming background in India that gave him the idea for Monarch Tractor. Through his newest venture, Praveen and his team have developed the first electric tractor that can also produce enough energy to power a home. As Praveen likes to say, Monarch is “the bridge between farm sustainability and farm economics in one product.”
Listen now and learn how every moment of this engineer’s life — from his childhood in Southern India poring over American auto magazines to working on race cars in Huntington Beach — led to his revolutionary idea for the future of farming.
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
Jump straight into:
(00:53) - Praveen’s Agricultural background and his interest in cars and technology - “I would have all these dreams of, ‘Oh yeah I’ve got to go to California and drive these fast cars and play with all of this high-tech,’ from quiet old computer magazines and car magazines.”
(04:15) - Finding his first job after graduation - “I threw everything I owned into my car and drove across the country for two days nonstop to start work at Huntington Beach.”
(09:26) - Praveen’s first startup: Accelerating high-technology products to the market - “It was super cool to have a car that I touched and worked on on the cover of Road & Track, a magazine that I used to buy on the sidewalks in India for like 10 rupees.”
(12:52) - Monarch: The first electric tractor comes to life - “It definitely was the first lithium-ion tractor that could also power things. So not only could it be charged from a solar panel directly, we had power plugs that we could power things off the tractor.’”
(19:23) - Helping farmers worldwide and pushing agriculture forward - “We see ourselves as a bridge between farm economics and sustainability. It's the one thing, probably the only thing that connects farm sustainability and farm economics in one product.”
(24:38) - How to make it through the pandemic - “At a time of COVID where most businesses are shut down, farmers were very impacted because of the supply chain disruptions.”
(27:05) - The tractor’s reception: Would Elon Musk like it? - “I don't know what our Silicon Valley leaders would think about it, but we do know what farmers think about it and we are happy with their reaction.”
Episode resources
Connect with Praveen on LinkedIn
See the Monarch Tractor in action
Learn more about Monarch Tractor
Follow Monarch Tractor on Twitter and Instagram
Learn more about Motivo Engineering
Read Praveen’s interview on the 5 Things We Must Do To Inspire The Next Generation About Sustainability And The Environment
Before IT Happened is produced by Donna Loughlin and Studio Pod Media with additional editing and sound design by Nodalab. The show coordinator is Deanna Morenci with audio engineering provided by Dave Clarke McCoy. The Executive Producer is Katie Sunku Wood. All episodes are written by Jack Buehrer.
Thank you for listening! Follow Before IT Happened on Instagram, and don’t forget to subscribe, rate and share the show wherever you listen to podcasts!

Becoming Superhuman with Designer and Entrepreneur Donald Burlock, Jr.
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07/08/21 • 45 min
Merging creativity with your personal story has been left for artists, but imagine what would happen if you could apply that level of meaning to your work in any industry. In this episode of Before It Happened, host Donna Loughlin chats with Donald Burlock Jr, veteran UX designer and author of Superhuman by Design. Through his experiences working in both the automotive and tech industries, Donald says he’s learned that while just about everybody has a superpower, few know how to unlock it. In this conversation with Donna, Donald explains how maintaining a creative core and an attitude of expectancy will push you forward in unpredicted ways.
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
Jump straight into:
(03:20) - Donald’s childhood: The foundations of an artist - “My entire experience as a child in Dallas was just full of wonder, a lot of creative wonder.”
(07:25) - Artistic minded, mechanically inclined: Donald’s life-changing exposition to a world of diverse individuals - “It was definitely a time of understanding the different dynamics that the clash of cultures brought to an environment. It was really fundamental to opening my mind. Especially being a PK.”
(10:53) - How do you create an experience? Donald's eye-opening semester studying abroad in Europe- “Everything in the States it's always about convenience and everything's disposable and a bit forgettable and to experience a place where there were things that had that longevity to them, that were considered in terms of materiality, that was very different.”
(15:21) - The Aha! moment: Discovering the design world - “This is truly how it started. I'm 24, I'm looking into a window and there are these people who are controlling a machine that is machining clay to create wheels and the wall is just full of all of these amazing sketches.”
(18:14) - Getting invited to Steve Job’s Apple - “It was just literally an entirely new world that had opened up for me through that one trip to the Valley.”
(21:46) - Brand design & creative thinking: Donald’s work at Coca Cola and IDEO - “It didn't matter if you were doing something digital for a banner online, or if you were doing a can, every single aspect of their design was rooted in some precedent that they had established with their brand.”
(24:29) - Joining the tech startup boom & the philosophy behind Donald’s book Superhuman by design - “Superhuman by Design intends to build a bridge so that there's a very clear linear thought about how creativity and also your impact as an individual, are very much related.”
(34:23) - Yellow legal pads and highlighters: The physicality of words and Donald’s family contribution to the book - “I gave it to my mom because I knew at some point I was going to write about my grandfather and that was going to be a deeply personal story.”
(38:07) - How to hold on to the attitude of expectancy, engage your creative core and dial down inhibitions - “You have every superpower you need inside and there's more that you can get your hands on.”
(40:29) - What’s next for Donald? Supervillain by design - “I started writing about all the topics we're discussing very openly right now, everything from the imposter syndrome to the effects of what's happening with the pandemic to talking about, hopefully, more in-depth, my experiences as a black man.”
Episode resources
Follow Donald on Twitter and Instagram
Get Donald’s book SuperHuman by Design
See more of Donald’s design work
Before IT Happened is produced by Donna Loughlin and Studio Pod Media with additional editing and sound design by Nodalab. The show coordinator is Deanna Morenci with audio engineering provided by Dave Clarke McCoy. The Executive Producer is Katie Sunku Wood. All episodes are written by Jack Buehrer.

Breaking Down the Business of Story with Park Howell
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02/24/22 • 37 min
In this episode of Before IT Happened, entrepreneur, storytelling coach and bestselling author Park Howell joins the show to discuss the ‘Story Cycle System’ that he created to apply the full potential of ‘the hero’s journey’ to business and entrepreneurship. There is endless competition for our attention and it forces businesses to become acutely aware of the audience they're serving. This awareness leads to the possibility of crafting powerful stories. So join us and discover what good brand storytelling is all about and how you can make it come to life!
Before any world-changing innovation, there was a moment, an event, a realization that sparked the idea before it happened. This is a podcast about that moment — about that idea. Before IT Happened takes you on a journey with the innovators who imagined — and are still imagining — our future. Join host Donna Loughlin as her guests tell their stories of how they brought their visions to life.
JUMP STRAIGHT INTO:
(01:39) - How Park Howell fell in love with music: “I’ve applied everything I've learned in [music] to the work I've done over the past 35 years in advertising and branding because everything is about flow and rhythm.”
(07:45) - Park’s early approaches to the art of storytelling - “I realized we've only been telling them intuitively, we've never told them intentionally, meaning I've never used a framework.”
(11:09) - The origins of the ‘Story Cycle System’ - “While he was going to school there, I said, ‘Parker, send me your textbooks since I'm paying for them. I want to know what Chapman University teaches you as a storyteller.”
(15:10) - Redefining the ‘Hero’s Journey’ - “Depending on where your audience is with you in the story cycle system journey, you want to share with them appropriate stories that they can relate to.”
(21:51) - How Park guides people to apply his framework to their brand’s story - “Take us to that problem, share that conflict or that contradiction. When you don't, you end up not telling a story. You think you're telling a story. All you're telling is the exposition of that story.”
(24:27) - Focusing on the problem you’re solving for your audience - “I want to know what this actually does for me. What do you actually make happen in my world? There's no list of features and functions that’s going to sell that for you.”
(26:42) - Crafting a focused narrative - “You're going to try to sell lots of different things in that ABT, but I want you to always boil it down to a singular narrative and that in this case is the companionship.”
(32:00) - The ABT, a versatile tool - “I've been using this ABT in my emails. I've cut my email writing time down by two thirds. People who receive them actually understand what I'm asking of them. And I have a built-in call to action in my therefore statement.”
EPISODE RESOURCES:
Connect with Park Howell on Twitter, Instagram and Linkedin
Watch Park’s Ted Talk: Start Looking for Your Scenes and Your Story Will Find You
Read Park’s books: Brand Bewitchery and The Narrative Gym
Learn more about The Business of Story
Listen to Before IT Happened’s: Becoming Superhuman with Designer and Entrepreneur Donald Burlock, Jr.
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Before IT Happened is produced by Donna Loughlin and StudioPod Media with additional editing and sound design by
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FAQ
How many episodes does Before It Happened have?
Before It Happened currently has 67 episodes available.
What topics does Before It Happened cover?
The podcast is about Entrepreneurship, Podcasts, Business and Careers.
What is the most popular episode on Before It Happened?
The episode title 'Tapping into Startup Culture and Betting on the Future of Mobility with Vitaly Golomb' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Before It Happened?
The average episode length on Before It Happened is 39 minutes.
How often are episodes of Before It Happened released?
Episodes of Before It Happened are typically released every 7 days.
When was the first episode of Before It Happened?
The first episode of Before It Happened was released on Jun 8, 2021.
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